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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:31 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
Let’s see if the wheel says if I should vote them or not

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:32 pm
by Maki and Kaito
In post 866, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Ok

Take what you just said

Boon is at best null; ok

So why are you more concerned with me sring him than bitmap emphatically saying he's not scum?

-s
I don't see Bitmap talking about Flavor Leaf, other than to say ali wouldn't have picked him in 191 - which isn't based on FL's play, so whatever. What are you talking about?

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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:32 pm
by Sherlock and Watson
I wonder if whiny dunn is scum dunn

He was kinda whiny in excal but at the time he was also siding with me on mech so it was diff

Idk, now he'll apparently be pinged because I'm still thinking about him

-s

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:32 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
Looks like the wheel decided the final thing before I take my beauty sleep.

VOTE: Pine

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:32 pm
by OkaPoka
ok wait a moment at first i thought tse was using the wheel as a way to reveal true reads but since pine hasnt posted since tse's last wheel rounds

monkaS

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:34 pm
by Alisae
TiMe To SpIn ThE wHeEl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:34 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 879, OkaPoka wrote:ok wait a moment at first i thought tse was using the wheel as a way to reveal true reads but since pine hasnt posted since tse's last wheel rounds

monkaS
I doubt this.
As I’ve stated who I’d really read.
RN I would normally watch you for a potential scum read on you but I’m not in charge.
The wheel decides things for me.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:36 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 881, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 879, OkaPoka wrote:ok wait a moment at first i thought tse was using the wheel as a way to reveal true reads but since pine hasnt posted since tse's last wheel rounds

monkaS
I doubt this.
As I’ve stated who I’d really read.
RN I would normally watch you for a potential scum read on you but I’m not in charge.
The wheel decides things for me.
if you think about it

the wheel will be wrong more than its right

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:38 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 882, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 881, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 879, OkaPoka wrote:ok wait a moment at first i thought tse was using the wheel as a way to reveal true reads but since pine hasnt posted since tse's last wheel rounds

monkaS
I doubt this.
As I’ve stated who I’d really read.
RN I would normally watch you for a potential scum read on you but I’m not in charge.
The wheel decides things for me.
if you think about it

the wheel will be wrong more than its right
Well there’s only one way to find out.
Want to vote Pine with me and

SHEEP THE WHEEL!?

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:40 pm
by OkaPoka
so if you are using the wheel to make a point

let me show you a statistical argument of just sheeping someone

given a random slot, they have a 13/17 chance of rolling town

all you have to assume that they have an above 50% reads rate by lynch which is very much possible

therefore assume they are town and multiple the 50% reads rate minimum to have a 13/34 chance of hitting scum or ~38%

your wheel has a 4/17 or 23% chance of hitting scum

just moral of the story is go and research some players and auto sheep them

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:43 pm
by Maki and Kaito
In post 868, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 121, Flavor Leaf wrote:I believe it. And we finally get to play a game together, Bitmap. :lol:
Pockety

-s
See - you listed them both as scum without explanation, but in order for this to be pocketing they can't both be scum, and you seem to primarily be scumreading bitmap, but you're simultaneously pushing flavor leaf and using this as reasoning, which leaves me wondering where your head is really at.
In post 871, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Yeah, just trying to get why dunn is nagging me simultaneously for too little content while recognizing some slots aren't readable without meta or bullshit
And instead all his posts look like scum boon

-s
:roll:
In post 877, Sherlock and Watson wrote:I wonder if whiny dunn is scum dunn
I don't appreciate being discredited as "whiny" - I believe I've made good points and you've been trying to brush me aside by pointing to things that are only kind of related, like saying "then why aren't you going after bitmap"
In post 877, Sherlock and Watson wrote:He was kinda whiny in excal but at the time he was also siding with me on mech so it was diff
No clue what you're talking about.

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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:44 pm
by Alisae
Yeah its really sad that TSE thinks that his reads are basically random

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:45 pm
by Alisae
i honestly kinda feel bad
maybe just like
a tiny bit

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:46 pm
by OkaPoka
its because tse is a naive mafiascum player who has probably lost to a deepwolf and has been permanently traumatized as a result

poor tse

send tse to the mountainous gulags to realize that townies can be good at the game

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:11 pm
by Sherlock and Watson
In post 885, Maki and Kaito wrote:I don't appreciate being discredited as "whiny" - I believe I've made good points and you've been trying to brush me aside by pointing to things that are only kind of related, like saying "then why aren't you going after bitmap"
I think I've brushed more of your points aside because I know you're basically competent and I don't really feel like I should have to explain why scummy posts are scummy to you. It feels like you're nagging me for explanations rather than really trying to solve me atm, or for that matter solve with me, like you're not really trying to get a better read of the people I'm talking about but rather just sort of complaining that I'm not doing things the way you think I should be doing them. You're like "explain this and explain this and explain this" but your own reads seem pretty meh and you're basically arguing I shouldn't be scumreading people you have as null because my gut sense is different than your gut sense.

What's your read on Espe, Bitmap, Spiffeh, Chemist? With explanations, please

-S

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:12 pm
by Sherlock and Watson
In post 888, OkaPoka wrote:send tse to the mountainous gulags to realize that townies can be good at the game
this is actually a pretty good metaphor, kudos

-S

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:19 pm
by Sherlock and Watson
In post 885, Maki and Kaito wrote:See - you listed them both as scum without explanation, but in order for this to be pocketing they can't both be scum, and you seem to primarily be scumreading bitmap, but you're simultaneously pushing flavor leaf and using this as reasoning, which leaves me wondering where your head is really at.
I'm almost inclined to say that this is too superficial to come from town Dunn. I'm working on a PoE and I have two people as scumreads, I'm not preflipping either as scum even if I don't hate my solve. I don't really see this as an inconsistency given how fluid the gamestate is, and I'm not assuming I'm 4/4 right now, in fact I just indicated I'm at this point hoping to be at least 2+

this feels more like "nagging" and "whiny" rather than something to actually complain about from a town POV? or is this what you're saying is a "legitimate concern"?

-S

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:41 am
by Ankamius
I have an announcement to make!

I have formally reached the 1/3 point in the thread for analysis mode! =)

Yay!

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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:52 am
by Ankamius
In post 329, Pine wrote:
In post 325, Spiffeh wrote:I would have claimed ascetic in my first post if I were ascetic

Therefore, I am not

Pine I am excited for you to try hard

Tell me who the scum are
I believe this post.

Current scumlist: Ankamius and Sherlock/Watson

Ank would have been VERY high on Ali's recruit list, probably #1

Ali never drafts FL or I
ftr

I just hit this post and I'd like to reiterate that it's literally impossible for S+W and me to be the same alignment because the duck will always immediately draft the other when alisae drafts one of us (and even if SS did the draft, I imagine they mindmelded on this beforehand and this would likely come up with how high profile we are and his general familiarity with us)

we've hydra'd so many times this past year that we are very familiar with each other's town games and it's a huge risk of having whoever is scum in this duo be caught near immediately

something to keep in mind

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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:57 am
by Hectic
you mean it's impossible for both to be scum right?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:59 am
by Ankamius
yup

I think blake bled into that post

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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:13 am
by Ankamius
In post 380, Maki and Kaito wrote:What about our read on your slot?
I don't understand. It's suicidal coming from Krazy specifically because he understands my towngame better than any other player on the site, via having something around eight hydra games with me over the past year. Because of this, he is by far the most likely to tell when I'm simply not town. On top of that, he's very unlikely to ever let that go if he realizes that I'm scum, and is going to be endlessly pushing for votes or to have me slip in ways that other people are more likely to pick up on.

I don't believe you either have that same level of proficiency at reading me, nor are that strong of a pressure point when you do scumread me. MariaR does become a pressure point when she is scumreading me, but I suspect she's not disproportionately more likely to be able to read me accurately than I am her, and I've stated multiple times in the past that I don't understand her playstyle enough to be able to tell the difference between alignments consistently.

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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:33 am
by Spiffeh
Who is Boon?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:38 am
by Ankamius
boonskiies, aka flavor leaf

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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:46 am
by Spiffeh
In post 885, Maki and Kaito wrote:See - you listed them both as scum without explanation, but in order for this to be pocketing they can't both be scum, and you seem to primarily be scumreading bitmap, but you're simultaneously pushing flavor leaf and using this as reasoning, which leaves me wondering where your head is really at.
This is a very poor reason to be suspicious of them.