It's a soft town read but I don't have many town reads so it's all I got. I don't think CSF has even been very active it was just the timing off the post gives me a town read. I don't know who you are talking about when you're talking about other people being loud but not much I have read in this day phase bar Bob's post has helped me get a read on them.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:44 am
by Malakittens
VOTE: gera
For now placing this vote. Posts lately been rubbing me the wrong way so this feels I like a good place to start
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:23 am
by TheTrollie
I'll let them talk in the PT and theyll make the final decision but there is a scenario where we are in lylo tomorrow AND scum have control of the neighborhood pt and can force a mislynch.
If the claims happen today, scum isn't able to coordinate a fake claim gambit pushing us into a 1v1 situation in lylo. If we lynch town today, tomorrow we have 4 town left, 3 scum and a neighborhood of 2-4 depending on what goes down. all it takes is 1 scum in that PT for all 3 scum to be able to coordinate claims that would put us in a bad situation come D4.
Claiming the neighborhood today just gives town the same info that scum might already have. if BB+co did well and the neighborhood is 4 town, claiming doesn't do much anyway, other than to minimize the 1 in 5 chance that the non-neighbor townie gets lynched.
I really think it's the right move
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:22 am
by Allomancer
I'm not sure I see the benefit of a neighborhood claim. I get the idea that if scum know the mason we should too, but I don't see how a neighborhood claim without the mason claiming helps.
In post 873, iDanyboy wrote:Scum are just sitting back chilling so CSF is probably town at this point.
Eh that’s kinda of a soft reason to town read someone. Both town and scum can be active and let’s be real. There’s other people that are louder than CSF and you’re not town reading them.
Also I’m not really a big fan of having the mason claim yet but that’s just me.
I think the mason + the neighbors should talk. You never know they may have all town in it right now and scum are just hoping that everyone says yes so they know who to kill next
Can you remind me who you're townreading?
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:33 am
by bob3141
VOTE: Bambi Jay
Can we have reads from you on every player. Who dod you think is sure town and why?
Who do you think is scum and why?
Why did you not stringly push for someone else to be day two lynch? Since you clearly from your posts implied titus was town. Yet not even a vote
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:00 am
by TheTrollie
In post 879, Allomancer wrote:I'm not sure I see the benefit of a neighborhood claim. I get the idea that if scum know the mason we should too, but I don't see how a neighborhood claim without the mason claiming helps.
Because tomorrow, in LYLO, scum can coordinate a fabricated fake/counterclaim to the town-neighbors and it'll be up to us to figure out who is telling the truth or lose the game.
There is no risk that scum controls the neighborhood claim now because (a) if they do then it divulges multiple scum (whoever cooporates in the fake) (b) we know there is a mason and we know that at least one other neighbor can confirm the mason.
We don't need the mason outed now necessarily, but we DO need to know who is in the neighborhood to prevent a scum-controlled neighborhood from forcing us into a 1-v-1 in lylo
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:39 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 882, TheTrollie wrote:Because tomorrow, in LYLO, scum can coordinate a fabricated fake/counterclaim to the town-neighbors
The neighbors aren't confirmed town though.
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:40 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
Gerain, are you still scumreading Trollie?
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:20 pm
by Malakittens
Well Molla was a major town read for me, but with him dead..
I’m slightly townreading allo and I have a gut town read on trollie, but that’s prob wrong in hindsight considering what he’s pushing rn
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:23 am
by mavsfan41
@Malakittens: you’ve voted geraintm today for the lack of content and some less than enthusiastic posts today. Looking over day 3 posts, Allomancer could be classified similarly. Thoughts? You reading Allomancer in the same way as Geraintm?
In post 882, TheTrollie wrote:Because tomorrow, in LYLO, scum can coordinate a fabricated fake/counterclaim to the town-neighbors
The neighbors aren't confirmed town though.
Exactly. the neighborhood in Lylo with us knowing it exists and BB dead. the neighborhood is more likely to be benefiting scum rn then town.
we cant confirm any claims tomorrow when it matters - unless we lynch scum today
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:35 am
by bob3141
In post 886, mavsfan41 wrote:@Malakittens: you’ve voted geraintm today for the lack of content and some less than enthusiastic posts today. Looking over day 3 posts, Allomancer could be classified similarly. Thoughts? You reading Allomancer in the same way as Geraintm?
Why do you want players pushing allomancer over germatin?
I see no reason to really change my opinion on them, they haven't done anything to put them in the town pile for me
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:40 am
by geraintm
I have no opinion on the outing of the neighbourhood one way or the other, but wish people would agree on a point of view quicky because otherwise it is going to linger the rest of the day. may I suggest if within 24 hours it hasn't been outed, then people agree to drop the topic
In post 886, mavsfan41 wrote:@Malakittens: you’ve voted geraintm today for the lack of content and some less than enthusiastic posts today. Looking over day 3 posts, Allomancer could be classified similarly. Thoughts? You reading Allomancer in the same way as Geraintm?
Why do you want players pushing allomancer over germatin?
And just to be clear i realy do not liek your push all game on allomancer. Its one of the biggest reasons fow why i scum read you?
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:47 am
by Bambi Jay
Guess the neighbors don't have to reveal if they don't wanna. Feels weird though to know that they exist like that.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:48 am
by bob3141
I think the masons and neighbours are safe
if mav, germ and bambi are not in it. As i reckon their prob the scum team
if mav, germ and bambi are not in it. As i reckon their prob the scum team
Not scum, just on holiday this week and Easter long weekend, so not at computer much so not typing often. Lazy not scum
Sorry
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:23 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 885, Malakittens wrote:Well Molla was a major town read for me, but with him dead..
I’m slightly townreading allo and I have a gut town read on trollie, but that’s prob wrong in hindsight considering what he’s pushing rn
In post 886, mavsfan41 wrote:@Malakittens: you’ve voted geraintm today for the lack of content and some less than enthusiastic posts today. Looking over day 3 posts, Allomancer could be classified similarly. Thoughts? You reading Allomancer in the same way as Geraintm?
Why do you want players pushing allomancer over germatin?
And just to be clear i realy do not liek your push all game on allomancer. Its one of the biggest reasons fow why i scum read you?
For 888: I’m not pushing Allomancer over geraintm. What I’m actually asking is why there are two players with similar posting patterns in regard to day 3 but why Malakittens finds Geraintm scummy and not Allomancer (or find Allomancer town and Geraintm not). This question would have been asked had Malakittens voted Allomancer and not Geraintm but only I would ask about thoughts of Geraintm.
With regards to the post of yours I’ve quoted above, I don’t think I’ve actually been pushing Allomancer. Ive has him on my radar, but there were better targets. So I actually ISO’ed myself and did a ctrl+F on “Allomancer” and I haven’t pushed him at all. The biggest push I had was possibly theorizing that if scum had been on the day 1 wagon on YOU, it likely would’ve been either Paragon (who was replaced by Titus) and Allomancer. That’s it.
This is now another misleadingly framed post (the first being the timeline argument with the subsequent “this clears me”). Now that you’ve thrown shade at me for a blatantly false premise and have thrown shade at others in your misleading post about the NK order, this pings me as you throwing anything at the wall and see what sticks with LYLO so close to you and your scum buddies.
In post 886, mavsfan41 wrote:@Malakittens: you’ve voted geraintm today for the lack of content and some less than enthusiastic posts today. Looking over day 3 posts, Allomancer could be classified similarly. Thoughts? You reading Allomancer in the same way as Geraintm?
Why do you want players pushing allomancer over germatin?
And just to be clear i realy do not liek your push all game on allomancer. Its one of the biggest reasons fow why i scum read you?
For 888: I’m not pushing Allomancer over geraintm. What I’m actually asking is why there are two players with similar posting patterns in regard to day 3 but why Malakittens finds Geraintm scummy and not Allomancer (or find Allomancer town and Geraintm not). This question would have been asked had Malakittens voted Allomancer and not Geraintm but only I would ask about thoughts of Geraintm.
With regards to the post of yours I’ve quoted above, I don’t think I’ve actually been pushing Allomancer. Ive has him on my radar, but there were better targets. So I actually ISO’ed myself and did a ctrl+F on “Allomancer” and I haven’t pushed him at all. The biggest push I had was possibly theorizing that if scum had been on the day 1 wagon on YOU, it likely would’ve been either Paragon (who was replaced by Titus) and Allomancer. That’s it.
This is now another misleadingly framed post (the first being the timeline argument with the subsequent “this clears me”). Now that you’ve thrown shade at me for a blatantly false premise and have thrown shade at others in your misleading post about the NK order, this pings me as you throwing anything at the wall and see what sticks with LYLO so close to you and your scum buddies.
So you admit you did infact push that slot. The way you want about suggesting allomancer coudl eb scum on my wagon. Reeked of fence sitting. In fact when ever you have mention allomancer it has always felt scum motivated.
And you response reeks of deflection too. See i never said how much you have pushed him this game or how. Only that i dont like your pushs there this game. But when ever you interact with that slot. its messy.
"Allomancer and Paragon I’m so torn on" from post 352 In that posts every lien just looks like fence, liek your probing to see if you can get one of them lynched. As if you were town why woudl you say the quoted part. You wouldnt say you were torn between them. Feels to much like you were teasing to see if you could push a scum read on one of them. You would say you were town leaning them if it was genuine based on the context either side.
In the same posts you dismiss any push on bambi.
Also why have you not answered why you have yet to interact with bambi. With you only real interaction on him being were you said he just looked liek rep in trying to catch up. What do you think of him now?