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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:29 am
by xRECKONERx
In post 845, gobbledygook wrote:The reckslot is self resolvable TODAY. If he does not leave when everyone masturbates then he is scum and dies and we get a day 1 lynch. That is why Pine's paranoia is bs. If he truly was suspicious of Reck he would just confirm if Reck is telling the truth and then lynch Reck if the things Reck said would happen, do not happen. I do not understand why you never see obvious scum as obvious Bingle, but is it is seriously annoying now that this is the third game you've done this to me.
this x1000000000000

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:30 am
by xRECKONERx
In post 874, Bingle wrote:
In post 565, Dunnstral wrote:Bulbazek says that the neighborhood should keep the fact that mastina has the bp a secret
Reck, your slot is outed BP via marketplace and there's enough methodical players here to make obscuring that impossible. If you die, it's because scum used a sman on you. Town has no reason to vig you.

And yes, the last person to masturbate before you leave would be town, all nonmasturbaters would be scum, and you would be a functional vigshot. If you don't leave with one non masturbator remaining and then flip role as claimed (because we decide not to trust you), that person is necessarily town.
wait what? i'm BP?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:33 am
by Bingle
In post 3, Ginngie wrote:
Day Market
In stockAbilityShotsPhasePrice
X
Eavesdropper
1
Night
1
1
Cop
1
Night
3
1
Doctor
2
Night
2
X
BP
1
Night
1
1
Tracker
1
Night
2
1
Watcher
1
Night
2
2
Engineer
1
Day
2
Unlimited
Spiked Kool-Aid
1
Day
1


Black Market
In stockAbilityShotsPhasePrice
1
Gladiate
1
Day
2
1
Desperado
1
Day
3
1
Role Stop
2
Night
2
1
Vig
1
Night
3
1
Ninja
1
Night
3
1
Engineer
1
Day
1
8
Acid Half-Dose
1
Night
2
Unlimited
Death Sticks
1
Night
1




Mechanics


-At the start of the game, each player starts with
$1
.
-You will earn
$1
at the start of each day.
-Simply PM me to purchase an item. First come, first serve.
-Day Market will be available during the entire Day phase.
-Black Market will be available during the entire Night phase.
-When a player dies from lynching, members of the same drug type will receive cash back.
-When a player dies from an action, their money is stolen by the player who committed the action.
-You are able to share money with people that share the same drug type as you. This is done through PM.
-Abilities will be explained to you after purchase in a PM.

-Warning, taking acid multiple times can cause severe reactions. This is your only warning.
This mechanic, reck. mastina bought the bp vest and claimed it in hood. It was then outed to the main thread (not that a 6p hood is particularly obscure).

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:34 am
by xRECKONERx
ooooh. my replacement PM didn't mention a BP vest and i haven't read my hood so yeah. ill PM the mod

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:35 am
by xRECKONERx
even if i am BP (getting mod confirmation) like, scum wasting a strongman kill on a third party that leaves the game anyway would be pants on head levels of bad play

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:38 am
by Bingle
Yup. Exactly why I don't give a shit about not resolving you today.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:39 am
by Pine
In post 831, Bingle wrote:If the claim is true, we gain a conftown at the very least.
I didn't think of that, and it's the best logic I've heard so far to take the risk. I'm not sold on it yet, need to ruminate first.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:39 am
by gobbledygook
I feel like I’m on Punk’d and Ashton Kutcher is waiting in my 100 degree garage to surprise me

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:40 am
by Pink Ball
Pink'd

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:40 am
by Pine
In post 833, Bingle wrote:
In post 827, Pine wrote:Because the pool of non-masturbators is down to five, and if Reck is a version of a serial killer it's easy to murder your way through that number.
I really wish you hadn't brought that up, tbh. I've been dancing around why I want to see nightkills before commiting to this course of action, but that is one of the larger ones, yes.
Why not bring it up? Unless the scumteam is full asleep at the wheel (unlikely in this playerlist) they're probably discussing it openly in their chat.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:40 am
by Bingle
In post 879, xRECKONERx wrote:even if i am BP (getting mod confirmation) like, scum wasting a strongman kill on a third party that leaves the game anyway would be pants on head levels of bad play
Don't make this explicit, btw.

You benefit from having a perceived BP and town benefits if you're just a BP beard for another townie.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:41 am
by Pine
In general, unless something is a very unlikely insight or role-based, "don't tell scum" is a +EV losing proposition. The information wasn't privileged, and the analysis is pretty surface-level.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:41 am
by gobbledygook
Like you people seriously would want to play in a game where the mod gave a 3p a mutually exclusive wincon that can win on day 1?? How does that not make you question the rest of the setup? Like if that’s true, then this game is legitimately not worth playing

Ginngie would not put in a mutually exclusive 3P wincon. There is no way he does that. That role, the MASTURBATION role, is so clearly a meme role and not a threat

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:42 am
by Pine
In post 835, Bingle wrote:C'mon, turkey. You're better than this. Activated ICs are better than Day 1 ICs for a reason.

You had a front row seat to Pine not wanting to humor 3p in exactly this fashion in Mainstream.

You are actively ignoring the point of my posting to support a conclusion you want, not a conclusion that follows from the evidence.

I've already claimed to be self resolving, something I wouldn't do if it weren't true because I actually like winning games.

Also, now that turkey is masturbating I prefer this to PP

VOTE: gobble
Apologies for multiposting, I'm in an RPG videochat elsewhere and getting brief respites while others take their turns.

It should be pointed out that the 3P in Mainsteam WAS LYING.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:43 am
by Pink Ball
In post 1, Ginngie wrote:
Setup & Mechanics

  • You're pretty much fucked.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:44 am
by gobbledygook
In post 888, Pine wrote:
In post 835, Bingle wrote:C'mon, turkey. You're better than this. Activated ICs are better than Day 1 ICs for a reason.

You had a front row seat to Pine not wanting to humor 3p in exactly this fashion in Mainstream.

You are actively ignoring the point of my posting to support a conclusion you want, not a conclusion that follows from the evidence.

I've already claimed to be self resolving, something I wouldn't do if it weren't true because I actually like winning games.

Also, now that turkey is masturbating I prefer this to PP

VOTE: gobble
Apologies for multiposting, I'm in an RPG videochat elsewhere and getting brief respites while others take their turns.

It should be pointed out that the 3P in Mainsteam WAS LYING.
There 4 3P and only one of them was mutually exclusive and explicitly tied to a serial killer so obviously they would lie. Fade me with that, fam

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:44 am
by Bingle
In post 884, Pine wrote:Why not bring it up? Unless the scumteam is full asleep at the wheel (unlikely in this playerlist) they're probably discussing it openly in their chat.
I have strong beliefs about whether killing in masturbators or not masturbators is optimal for the scum team and discussing the potential roles reck could/couldn't have could give that away. More importantly, there's enough traction to the mechanic that it won't go through today anyway, so not wasting time discussing it is better.

Ideally, we would have 0 masturbators other than reck until the day we decide to set reck free from the cage that is this game either by lynch or giant circle jerk. We, uh, kinda can't do that at this point.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:45 am
by Pink Ball
mastina could have lied about the town part of the claim, pointing out that she would leave only if all town masturbated, in order to get us to discuss the posibility to get a conftown/confscum situation, but in reality the wincon is making every single player of the list masturbate and that's a difficult wincon to achieve. Something like "you either make everyone masturbate at the same time or you become a survivor". Suits well with buying a BP, right?

So let's get gobble gobble gobble

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:46 am
by gobbledygook
In post 889, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1, Ginngie wrote:
Setup & Mechanics

  • You're pretty much fucked.
So you want to play in an obviously borked setup because why..)

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:46 am
by Pine
Bingle why do I feel like you're the only one making any damn sense.

Shit. You're scum, aren't you?

VOTE: turkey

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:47 am
by gobbledygook
In post 892, Pink Ball wrote:mastina could have lied about the town part of the claim, pointing out that she would leave only if all town masturbated, in order to get us to discuss the posibility to get a conftown/confscum situation, but in reality the wincon is making every single player of the list masturbate and that's a difficult wincon to achieve. Something like "you either make everyone masturbate at the same time or you become a survivor". Suits well with buying a BP, right?

So let's get gobble gobble gobble
Literally no. Occam’s razor says no. Both you and pine have the worst setup spec ever

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:47 am
by gobbledygook
In post 894, Pine wrote:Bingle why do I feel like you're the only one making any damn sense.

Shit. You're scum, aren't you?

VOTE: turkey
Literally why
Why does anyone think this is town

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:49 am
by Bingle
In post 894, Pine wrote:Bingle why do I feel like you're the only one making any damn sense.
Making sense and townreading scum are the hallmarks of my towngame!

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:49 am
by Ginngie
I have a surprise

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:49 am
by Ginngie
I think ya'll will like it