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i am slowly catching up and taking notes thank you for not making too much content

In post 840, shellyc wrote:

In post 826, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 777, Saudade wrote:it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling

Yeah this can die
VOTE: Sausage

jacko what happened to your hard scumread on me again

I am still paranoid but I think your reaction + claiming IC back at me is probably town.

Rereading Grendel, I like his meta dives and analysis in the short amount of time he was here. I can understand most of his thoughts and the conclusions he comes to.

I'll throw down another reads list later but will bar this one behind a spoiler, since I know we have an ongoing "Jackson the readslist SLAYER" plotline.

Hey, UNOwen, I'd like to talk with you some. I see you just finished a game where Noraa was scum, what do you think of her here in contrast to that game?

Your problem Jackson, is that you can be too paranoid. So much that it stifles any possible progress to be made and actually helps scum.

In post 856, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 752, Noraa wrote:

In post 737, Odd Day Jester wrote:

In post 735, Noraa wrote:this-this doesn't count cuz idk what a townblock is

People you think are town.

I've never played with anyone here besides the few in doggos
currently only have reads on the people in doggos
shelly plays strange. I dont understand her line of thinking ... ever. She'll be on my null for a long time bc I have a very hard time figuring her out.
Redados is giving me VERY different vibes here as compared to doggos where he was town. And these vibes r low-key scummy as well so he has an SR from me.
Mundivore has said like two things so im not sure what to think there. As town he was much more active...

in our newbie werent you going on about how meta is bad?

yeah its bad. However that early into the game, I wasn't sure how else to put reads together so meh had to use some.

In post 861, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 798, Redados wrote:

In post 785, UNOwen wrote:Redados why did you vote Noraa?

was very frustrated at her and felt like my vote was the most powerful way I could show my anger

now that I have calmed down, I will leave my vote where it is.

if the vote was an anger vote, the normal reaction upon not being angry would be to unvote and apologize i feel like

I hadn't actually thought about that tbh. I was kinda just like yeah ofc he's just gonna leave an unreasonable vote on me. And the funny thing is no one seems to think there's a problem with him just SRing people for no absolute reason bc of his AtE shit.

In post 878, Odd Day Jester wrote:Hey, UNOwen, I'd like to talk with you some. I see you just finished a game where Noraa was scum, what do you think of her here in contrast to that game?

I killed him day 1. I also replaced in day 1. I doubt he saw anything from me. Go ask Taylor. She was in there for a looooong time.

Also welcome Taylor!!!! Glad to have another game with u

In post 855, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 744, Redados wrote:

In post 595, duppin wrote:

In post 362, Redados wrote:I'm scumreading Saudade.

Could you elaborate on this?

when I posted this they had been active without doing too much pushing, mostly had just observed up to this point

from my vast experience playing with saudade, id say being quiet is +scum for saudade

But... Wat

Im sad irl im sorry no content from me for 3 days consider this my v/la

What vast experience do u have playing with me

In post 848, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 846, shellyc wrote:I am inno child and everyone who fights against me will be sentenced to death

could someone confirm this?

shelly plays mafia with the same mentality as a wingsuit diver. She just yeets herself off a cliff-face and hopes not to be dashed against any rocks.

In post 858, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 791, Mundivore wrote:

In post 580, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 418, Mundivore wrote:And I think you all know what I think about clowns.

What if i told you the character in my avi is called Clownpiece.

VOTE: NorweiganboyEE

In post 738, duppin wrote:that whole innocent child thing has to be the most awkward thing i have read in a while

Holy moly, agreed. Although I can kinda feel JV's response to it, b/c they were the mod of Doggos. That game shows for sure that crazy aggressive Day 1 play is well within shelly's playbook lmao.

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Anyway, this is a super high volume thread. I play this game for a hobby, not a living, though, so I can't promise I'll output to all y'all's standards. I'm doing my best to stay caught up, though.

In all seriousness, my urge to lim shelly is still there, but I worry it comes close to lim on policy more than anything else. Her play is so ridiculously aggressive that it feels like it could easily mislead the town. Not to mention, her SR'ing of anyone who looks at her funny is distracting, even though my gut tells me she's town this game.

this post concerns me. remind me maybe to read this entire iso?

You won't have much to read. I still haven't exited RVS mentality... this is a very hectic game, and I tend to keep my reads to myself until I find them useful.

In post 884, Saudade wrote:What vast experience do u have playing with me

That read like sarcasm IMO.

In post 791, Mundivore wrote:In all seriousness, my urge to lim shelly is still there, but I worry it comes close to lim on policy more than anything else. Her play is so ridiculously aggressive that it feels like it could easily mislead the town. Not to mention, her SR'ing of anyone who looks at her funny is distracting, even though my gut tells me she's town this game.

Can you articulate on why your gut is saying she's town? Acknowledging that aggressiveness and unpredictability for her is at best NAI, and at worst scum-indicative, why?

Also, this is a personal request, but I would love to see a clown readslist from you. Nothing to do with alignments, just a tiered list ordering people from CLOWN to . I'm gunning for top clown, so give me some tips if you have them.

In post 812, Redados wrote: yes, I think that she is scum. she feigns/uses her newness and appeal to emotion, and she's able to use confusion to do anti-town stuff. I think that she's scum.

In post 831, Redados wrote: I say here that I feel like you are scummy, but that probably has less to do with alignment and more to do with your playstyle. I then abbreviate that here:

In post 389, Redados wrote:Town:
JV

Null:
Jester

Scum due to playstyle:
ShellyC
Noraa

Scum:
Saudade (but I have been told this is his town meta)

Looking over this post^ I can see why you would have taken that the wrong way. That's fine. What I don't get is how every time I explain it you are not understanding.

Simultaneously thinking that Noraa is scum because of specific behaviour but also thinking that specific behaviour is NAI for Noraa. This seems to be two contradictory arguments you are making at the same time. Can you point to where you believe she has been anti-town in this game in a way that you wouldn't expect from town!Noraa?

- I was hoping for a follow up where you explained why you were confident in JV scum outside of the "bait" reaction

In post 878, Odd Day Jester wrote:Hey, UNOwen, I'd like to talk with you some. I see you just finished a game where Noraa was scum, what do you think of her here in contrast to that game?

Yo.
I suspected noraa that game, but the majority of her posts were after I had been killed and she was replacing a player I was already suspicious of so I'm not sure of the value of this comparison. In that game I thought she was incoherent and flaily, here there is more focus and I can follow what she is saying. Nothing she has done has bothered me so I guess first impressions are decent. What is your opinion?

In post 886, Odd Day Jester wrote:Also, this is a personal request, but I would love to see a clown readslist from you. Nothing to do with alignments, just a tiered list ordering people from CLOWN to not really a clown. I'm gunning for top clown, so give me some tips if you have them.

In post 874, duppin wrote:

In post 843, Tayl0r Swift wrote:UNVOTE:

still think its shelly, but i havent started reading yet

so why did you think it was shelly?

In post 863, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ok im all caught up.

yes, im caught up from the very beginning.

of page 30.

so far redados is scummy
not sure why shelly is pushing me, it seems no one else agrees? shelly has had some interesting takes.
im watching noraa.
does norwee roll only scum in normals?

just to avoid confusion, does this mean you are still scumreading shelly or not?

just to avoid confusion, i was not scumreading shelly prior to reading any of the thread. i just picked shelly because ive played with her before and she had just posted. after reading some of the thread im still not really scumreading shelly, just a bit confused about her scumread on my slot.
not sure what to make of jackson or jester, they havent posted much in the pages i read.

Taylor Taylor I want a read too!! I feel left out ;(
I'm bored and most people's reads on me are boring. Make urs interesting pls <.<

In post 884, Saudade wrote:What vast experience do u have playing with me

it was sarcasm, its a very small amount of experience. hope you get less sad irl.

In post 892, Noraa wrote:Taylor Taylor I want a read too!! I feel left out ;(
I'm bored and most people's reads on me are boring. Make urs interesting pls <.<

i read you as non-clown.

thats boring

well do you think i should read you as town or scum?

u can read me as an anonymous floating seaweed :3

Ok my scumpings on Noraa is increasing.

In post 886, Odd Day Jester wrote:

In post 791, Mundivore wrote:In all seriousness, my urge to lim shelly is still there, but I worry it comes close to lim on policy more than anything else. Her play is so ridiculously aggressive that it feels like it could easily mislead the town. Not to mention, her SR'ing of anyone who looks at her funny is distracting, even though my gut tells me she's town this game.

Can you articulate on why your gut is saying she's town? Acknowledging that aggressiveness and unpredictability for her is at best NAI, and at worst scum-indicative, why?

Also, this is a personal request, but I would love to see a clown readslist from you. Nothing to do with alignments, just a tiered list ordering people from CLOWN to

not really a clown

. I'm gunning for top clown, so give me some tips if you have them.

I feel like scum!shelly would have tunneled harder, and been more opportunistic with joining new wagons rather than roaming around and shifting vote moderately frequently. I think one of the reasons that shelly scumreads joining wagons so heavily is because she loves to do it as scum.

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Here are my clownreads:

Bugspray, Tayl0r, and Saudade —

Bugspray didn't tolerate early clowning out of Jester, Tayl0r seems nice and level-headed, Saudade has been nice and reserved.

Noraa, Redados —

These two have been in two other games with me. Clowns follow me everywhere. What am I to expect when I see them, lurking after me among the throngs of plastered faces and colorful wigs? Surely, if they are not clowns, they are being influenced by them. I can only pray they will find their way to freedom from the circus—it is too late for me to safely save them.

Jester —

Self-voted day 1, like a buffoon. Has a Joker profile picture. When I hear him around the corner, I hear him first by the of his comically oversized shoes. Ocassionally, I must suppress a chuckle in his presence. I must not laugh. It is how they spread.

NorweiganboyEE —

Has clown-claimed. Even if he was lying, such goonery as a fakeclaim is an act of clownery in its own right. A recent clown, perhaps—we must destroy him before his power grows.

Shellyc —

Would absolutely start a fight for no reason other than to win it. There is a dark, sinful fire in her eyes. This is not a typical clown, not patient, manipulative, nor insidious. No, instead she is an old clown, a clown which has gone mad from the endless immortal hours that a clown inevitably endures. A clown who remembers older, darker, deeper gods. Who would spill blood to see it spilt, to feed the earth, to forestall cleansing apocalypse. I fear this clown, but she does not fear me.