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In post 872, wellermanbob wrote:it would be right there to read in the PT

Mods don't always put all the role pms in the PT. It's very possible that fakeclaims were PMed to the individual scum members, and they didn't feel the need to share them with each other in advance, and vax didn't use his because he wanted to claim a more powerful role or something.

-Inf

Its an ability. I have it. Vax claimed it and it doesn't do what he said it does.

Chara alluded to something being off in Vax's claim too so im assuming its that but we will see

In post 875, Infinity Zero wrote:

In post 872, wellermanbob wrote:it would be right there to read in the PT

Mods don't always put all the role pms in the PT. It's very possible that fakeclaims were PMed to the individual scum members, and they didn't feel the need to share them with each other in advance, and vax didn't use his because he wanted to claim a more powerful role or something.

-Inf

Okay well counterpoint I'm not a moron and always post my role pm in the PT

I think the only other major suspect I can find for scum based on the unwnd NK is Mistyx kinda
-Protocol

In post 877, wellermanbob wrote:

In post 875, Infinity Zero wrote:

In post 872, wellermanbob wrote:it would be right there to read in the PT

Mods don't always put all the role pms in the PT. It's very possible that fakeclaims were PMed to the individual scum members, and they didn't feel the need to share them with each other in advance, and vax didn't use his because he wanted to claim a more powerful role or something.

-Inf

Okay well counterpoint I'm not a moron and always post my role pm in the PT

And yet you’re a brick wall any time you’re asked to explain a read
zzzzzzzzzz
-Protocol

Honestly I'd find it odd that vax would claim oblivious without any of his teammates roles or fakeclaims having oblivious. It's a weird thing to pull out of nowhere. It's possible that he knew one of his teammates had an oblivious fakeclaim but not what it did, or he decided to claim that oblivious did something different for whatever reason, not knowing there were other oblivious users in the game.

-Inf

In post 876, wellermanbob wrote:Its an ability. I have it. Vax claimed it and it doesn't do what he said it does.

Chara alluded to something being off in Vax's claim too so im assuming its that but we will see

That could make sense then. I follow now
UNVOTE:

Brick walls are strong

Pedit lmfao

In post 880, Infinity Zero wrote:Honestly I'd find it odd that vax would claim oblivious without any of his teammates roles or fakeclaims having oblivious. It's a weird thing to pull out of nowhere. It's possible that he knew one of his teammates had an oblivious fakeclaim but not what it did, or he decided to claim that oblivious did something different for whatever reason, not knowing there were other oblivious users in the game.

-Inf

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In post 823, Titus wrote:

In post 822, wellermanbob wrote:

In post 821, Titus wrote:VOTE: The Twins

Not that I disagree with this, but why? Does the red flip change your gamestate evaluation at all?

Why weren't the twins the cfd attempt?

We were?

In post 882, wellermanbob wrote:Brick walls are strong

Pedit lmfao

strong pain in the ass, more like it
-Protocol

VOTE: catboi

I feel like this was a bus attempt to get town credit when their partner flips town he was of a mind that weren't going to be lynched after the other two hydra came in and defended us.

I'm also unsure how Unwnd would incriminate us but if the scum were banking on a low activity game state new blood would be the biggest threat to that

You realize him voting you was what made me jump off you, right? I could've just stayed on you and kept the momentum there for deadline.

I was looking for bussers but I think jjh, raya, and the twins are all more or less town based off interactions with vax. Don't love infinity hopping off at the last minute but they got me back on vax in the first place, so, meh. Smoke and Mirrors spent a lot of time trying to tie misty to vax.

In post 806, Infinity Zero wrote:VOTE: chara
Infinity doesn't have much faith in the Vax redflip and I feel like his sense on that sort of thing is good
-Protocol

In post 808, Raya36 wrote:What's the point in switching to Chara when there's 3 minutes left?

this does seem like a really weird thing to do that close to deadline. i'd assume Gamma knew at this point about plurality, too.

In post 876, wellermanbob wrote:Its an ability. I have it. Vax claimed it and it doesn't do what he said it does.

Chara alluded to something being off in Vax's claim too so im assuming its that but we will see

Oblivious doesn't do what Vax said in the games either, which is what i was referring to. i expected that nothing would be 1 to 1 but i found it odd when my own role pm is accurate to the games. i was vague about it because i wanted to see if Vax would correct, i think.

In post 889, Alisae wrote:

VOTE COUNT 2 . 16

• Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 2 ( Catboi, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 1 ( Titus )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 8 ( Mistyx, Chara, Wellermanbob, Smoke and Mirrors, Red, Jjh927, Infinity Zero, Raya36 )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

Cool, insane people are votung us. Insane meaning specifically people with crazy reads. I’m looking forward to the explanation for this read.

In post 888, catboi wrote:You realize him voting you was what made me jump off you, right? I could've just stayed on you and kept the momentum there for deadline.

I was looking for bussers but I think jjh, raya, and the twins are all more or less town based off interactions with vax. Don't love infinity hopping off at the last minute but they got me back on vax in the first place, so, meh. Smoke and Mirrors spent a lot of time trying to tie misty to vax.

i could maybe agree on the Twins, i unfortunately don't remember Raya's interactions with Vax at all. jjh i know spent the whole day voting Vax, though the original vote was RVS, then there was the Slakoth pop in where Vax pushed jjh, then it was deadline. i don't have much confidence in my ability to read jjh but i'm assuming that's what you're referring to.

Infinity hopping off at the very last minute is a really strange thing to do if they're partners i think. there was basically no time to get more votes on me there.

some things change, Nancy hydraslipping every game stays the same. :>

In post 892, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 889, Alisae wrote:

VOTE COUNT 2 . 16

• Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 2 ( Catboi, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 1 ( Titus )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 8 ( Mistyx, Chara, Wellermanbob, Smoke and Mirrors, Red, Jjh927, Infinity Zero, Raya36 )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

Cool, insane people are votung us. Insane meaning specifically people with crazy reads. I’m looking forward to the explanation for this read.

This had better be really good.

Anyway, I was expecting Raya or jjh to be the NK after that flip.

@Mistix, I was looking for the 5 recent scumgames you referenced and couldn’t find them. Would you mind please linking/quoting them for me.

If either CB/Twins are scum than the scumteam has probably no one on it who knows how to intelligently deal with my slot. That or both are town. If either are scum, that means town will likely win because no smart scum in their right mind ever pushes me here. So this is definitely interesting.

In post 894, Chara wrote:some things change, Nancy hydraslipping every game stays the same. :>

My working theory is that NK was to possibly frame you but that would mean we have a smart scumteam.

In post 892, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 889, Alisae wrote:

VOTE COUNT 2 . 16

• Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 2 ( Catboi, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 1 ( Titus )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Infinity Zero
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 8 ( Mistyx, Chara, Wellermanbob, Smoke and Mirrors, Red, Jjh927, Infinity Zero, Raya36 )

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-17 20:01:00)

Cool, insane people are votung us. Insane meaning specifically people with crazy reads. I’m looking forward to the explanation for this read.

VOTE: Smoke and Mirrors
-Gamma Emerald. I take personal issue with this post, so I’m tagging with my username vs. my flavor tag.

so Raya pushed Vax probably the most, i feel dumb.

In post 893, Chara wrote:

In post 888, catboi wrote:You realize him voting you was what made me jump off you, right? I could've just stayed on you and kept the momentum there for deadline.

I was looking for bussers but I think jjh, raya, and the twins are all more or less town based off interactions with vax. Don't love infinity hopping off at the last minute but they got me back on vax in the first place, so, meh. Smoke and Mirrors spent a lot of time trying to tie misty to vax.

i could maybe agree on the Twins, i unfortunately don't remember Raya's interactions with Vax at all. jjh i know spent the whole day voting Vax, though the original vote was RVS, then there was the Slakoth pop in where Vax pushed jjh, then it was deadline. i don't have much confidence in my ability to read jjh but i'm assuming that's what you're referring to.

Infinity hopping off at the very last minute is a really strange thing to do if they're partners i think. there was basically no time to get more votes on me there.

@Twins. who made this vote because if it’s mom, I’m 100% yeeting this slot into the stratosphere but if it’s Akarin then I’m really not sure what to make of it.

Infinity is town because Gamma hard trs me anf he would definitely know this isn’t my scumgame.