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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:14 am
by Dwlee99
I wouldn't put it past Datisi

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:15 am
by Gamma Emerald
that would be top kek but idk how the NRG would perceive it
probably best to not worry about it for now

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:16 am
by camelCasedSnivy
Yeah good point

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:23 am
by Val89
Dwlee99 wrote:I mean yeah that's how backup works, but scum don't benefit from having ascetic during the day so why would it matter how fast day ends. You're moon logicing
Day length won't matter any more than normal once it's activiated, but it sure does before.

If the ability for any hypothetical invests, or a jailkeep, or anything like that we have to target scum at night can be switched off once scum hit the right person or persons, the advantage scum get from keeping the discussion on D1 or D2 or however long to a minimum, and thus informing those PRs whom to target, is magnified 100-fold.

Anyone else here not understand? If so, I can try and explain further.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:24 am
by Dwlee99
Ohhh I understand I think

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:31 am
by DArby
In post 878, Val89 wrote:
Dwlee99 wrote:I mean yeah that's how backup works, but scum don't benefit from having ascetic during the day so why would it matter how fast day ends. You're moon logicing
Day length won't matter any more than normal once it's activiated, but it sure does before.

If the ability for any hypothetical invests, or a jailkeep, or anything like that we have to target scum at night can be switched off once scum hit the right person or persons, the advantage scum get from keeping the discussion on D1 or D2 or however long to a minimum, and thus informing those PRs whom to target, is magnified 100-fold.

Anyone else here not understand? If so, I can try and explain further.
Actually this brings up an interesting question:

Let's say that scum only needs to kill one ascetic(?) to activate their ability and they do that n1. Do you think that all actions taken against scum n1 are voided?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:35 am
by Jolyne
I modded a game recently with a backup - the effect occurs daystart after all night actions resolve.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:38 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 881, Jolyne wrote:I modded a game recently with a backup - the effect occurs daystart after all night actions resolve.
I recall this being an issue in a game I was in as well, I can back this up

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:39 am
by DArby
That makes the most sense but I’d rather ask lol

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:51 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 843, Val89 wrote:I know you are going to tell us it's an unfortunate coincidence, that you had no idea you were advocating to a course of action that leads to a scum advantage, and a significant one, and you have just been a useful idiot, but I think Occams Razor applies.
Mate, do you think i’d ever give a shit about setup spec. Town or scum?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
you'd probably like us to think you don't if you're scum
in that case you could probably just get carried by your buddies

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:54 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 859, Jolyne wrote:ok actually im stupid and claimed in a stupid way i realized my informed info would be proven wrong literally by scum not having that info
brainfart LOL
I realized bc no ascetic claim it prob has to be you val and scum will likely shoot you anyway so i thought to draw the shot
Great job Val. Your setup spec just outed a town when we could have just killed Toxic and gotten a scum.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:55 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 885, Gamma Emerald wrote:you'd probably like us to think you don't if you're scum
in that case you could probably just get carried by your buddies
Not if they were like… N_M and lurker Camel?

:mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:57 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 872, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 838, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 826, Val89 wrote:You don't understand why scum might be chomping at the bit to start pew pew-ing and hope they hit the mark, while giving said time-limited invests as little to go on as possible?
No.
I'm honestly not thinking about scum's abilities at all.
I'm honestly not a fan of this (I didn't mean to mirror the writing style of the quoted post but it's funny so it stays)
You suck at reading me anyway.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:58 am
by marcistar
i wanna slam my head into a wall

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:59 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 873, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 868, Val89 wrote:Your "When has mafia ever gained anything out of a night phase except for maybe PR info" made me wonder if Marci had been right, and if "ascetic" was what else they gained from making the right NK.

Turns out, she was.
I mean yeah that's how backup works, but scum don't benefit from having ascetic during the day so why would it matter how fast day ends. You're moon logicing
Honestly Dwlee, you’re probably the most laid back and chill person here and i respect you for that.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:01 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I feel like all games where it feels like Gamma reads me correctly he is scum pocketing me.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:09 am
by Val89
In post 810, Dwlee99 wrote:I want to do the LN thing again
Anyone explain what the LN thing is?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:12 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 888, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 872, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 838, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 826, Val89 wrote:You don't understand why scum might be chomping at the bit to start pew pew-ing and hope they hit the mark, while giving said time-limited invests as little to go on as possible?
No.
I'm honestly not thinking about scum's abilities at all.
I'm honestly not a fan of this (I didn't mean to mirror the writing style of the quoted post but it's funny so it stays)
You suck at reading me anyway.
:lol:
I was townreading you until recently, you suck at reading the room!

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 891, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel like all games where it feels like Gamma reads me correctly he is scum pocketing me.
LN 231 counts, you weren't town but you weren't groupscum either

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:14 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 874, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Had a thought. What if there was a
Mafia Ascetic Backup Ascetic
?
Do you think that is a possibility?
Wouldn't pass review

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:17 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 893, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 888, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 872, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 838, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 826, Val89 wrote:You don't understand why scum might be chomping at the bit to start pew pew-ing and hope they hit the mark, while giving said time-limited invests as little to go on as possible?
No.
I'm honestly not thinking about scum's abilities at all.
I'm honestly not a fan of this (I didn't mean to mirror the writing style of the quoted post but it's funny so it stays)
You suck at reading me anyway.
:lol:
I was townreading you until recently, you suck at reading the room!
Yeah, but i was considering when it actually matters.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:18 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I still think Toxic is scummy here. His tone feels really forced and newbscum.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:19 am
by Gamma Emerald
Well here's a tip: being a dick about it doesn't make it better.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 am
by Dwlee99
In post 890, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 873, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 868, Val89 wrote:Your "When has mafia ever gained anything out of a night phase except for maybe PR info" made me wonder if Marci had been right, and if "ascetic" was what else they gained from making the right NK.

Turns out, she was.
I mean yeah that's how backup works, but scum don't benefit from having ascetic during the day so why would it matter how fast day ends. You're moon logicing
Honestly Dwlee, you’re probably the most laid back and chill person here and i respect you for that.
aw thanks norwee *blushes*