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It's Bombay/Suripoko/??? IMO. I'm a confirmed townie no matter how you look at it this point, you should let me shoot my shot.

You realize I’m on Suripoko, right?

My issue here is I a) don’t think this many investigatives makes sense with other stuff on the board, b) of the two, I think Bombay looks more Town (I feel like marci would be much more timid here? It could be the lukewarm effect but I think it’s too drastic a change too quick, c) I’ve literally just come out of two fucking games where a neighborhood managed to pocket people so I’m a little apprehensive about it all? Especially when given your phrasing it sounds like a PT spy? Why isn’t this just fucking tenet Cabd again?

Like, am I being dumb? I feel like it’s a well documented fact that despite my love of neighborhoods I also know you can’t trust them worth a damn. It’s not even that I’m questioning shiro, I just don’t get why this role isn’t “Cabd/ceph chooses who goes in the purple room part 2 electric boogaloo”

In post 876, Rogue wrote:You realize I’m on Suripoko, right?

My issue here is I a) don’t think this many investigatives makes sense with other stuff on the board, b) of the two, I think Bombay looks more Town (I feel like marci would be much more timid here? It could be the lukewarm effect but I think it’s too drastic a change too quick, c) I’ve literally just come out of two fucking games where a neighborhood managed to pocket people so I’m a little apprehensive about it all? Especially when given your phrasing it sounds like a PT spy? Why isn’t this just fucking tenet Cabd again?

Like, am I being dumb? I feel like it’s a well documented fact that despite my love of neighborhoods I also know you can’t trust them worth a damn. It’s not even that I’m questioning shiro, I just don’t get why this role isn’t “Cabd/ceph chooses who goes in the purple room part 2 electric boogaloo”

Who are you again?

If you know enough about Tenet you should know I was scum in that game WITH Cabd and I'm not easily tricked by PT stuff. There's a chance but it's miniscule and makes no sense. Why confirm town me?

I'll do Suripoko before Bombay if you need me to but in my mind I wanna kill the scum who is gonna be harder to get rid of later.

Which... now I'm writign this, even with images only might be suripoko lmfao

notty.

In post 871, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 868, The Bombay wrote:

In post 838, That Idiot Ivan wrote:I'm not worried about being blocked given the way my role works.

It looks like he is saying that he is not even just 1-shot.

So a parity cop that can keep firing, and a un-roleblockable cop that can keep firing, and us.

It don't think it makes any sense balance-wise.

Vote: Bombay

Also, this reads like a bit of TMI.

I am saying that a multi-shot cop that cannot be roleblocked + a multi-shot parity cop that cannot be roleblocked + my own role is simply too many town investigatives.

That is potentially 4 alignments being revealed night 1. I don't believe it.

A scum PT spy making a play makes way more sense imo.

Marci has not responded to my message yet, but VOTE: Ivan.

In post 872, Suripoko wrote:

In post 826, That Idiot Ivan wrote:My role allowed a neighborhood to form with two other players last night that persists into today.

By foregoing posting there until night ended, I was able to get a parity cop result on the other two players.

LLD and Shiro share an alignment.

[snip the pic]

VOTE: That Idiot Ivan

This is a good point too. That requirement to unlock the parity cop ability doesn't make any sense either. (I think that that is what Suripoko is saying here).

The pt opened at the start of the night. If he can hold back from posting during the night phase he gets a parity result. Like, what is the gate here?

I have a question for both LLD and Shiro. When did Ivan claim in the PT? Was it at the beginning of the day?

In post 883, The Bombay wrote:I have a question for both LLD and Shiro. When did Ivan claim in the PT? Was it at the beginning of the day?

Correct. Immediately after night resolution.

that's really gutsy for bombay or ivan to fakeclaim though.

A bombay counter claim when it's clear I want to kill them and I just did an unveil is not so much gutsy as a reasonable play if faking.

Ivan, on the other hand, very strange for a fake claim.

I'm very on the fence about these claims at this point. Ivan's claim doesn't make sense to fake to me unless he's scum working with either of the two people who were neighbors to make a play like this but I find it highly unlikely to actually be this exact play. However looking at the claimed roles I agree with Bombay here saying these roles (at just face value in theory) just seems unbalanced that I'm not sure what to actual think and just feel like focusing on this is just not helping.

Actually, Shiro can you confirm that you were in a neighborhood with LLD and Ivan? Kind of want an answer since I'm rethinking and found this to be potentially a bad paranoia.

In post 888, StrangeMatter wrote:Actually, Shiro can you confirm that you were in a neighborhood with LLD and Ivan? Kind of want an answer since I'm rethinking and found this to be potentially a bad paranoia.

You think Ivan and I would walk into this thread and Lie about Shiro being in the thread because we're... what, suicidal?

In post 889, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 888, StrangeMatter wrote:Actually, Shiro can you confirm that you were in a neighborhood with LLD and Ivan? Kind of want an answer since I'm rethinking and found this to be potentially a bad paranoia.

You think Ivan and I would walk into this thread and Lie about Shiro being in the thread because we're... what, suicidal?

Honestly I wouldn't put it past anyone here in this game to make plays as such, but in all honesty, I don't think so anymore.

In post 887, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm very on the fence about these claims at this point. Ivan's claim doesn't make sense to fake to me unless he's scum working with either of the two people who were neighbors to make a play like this but I find it highly unlikely to actually be this exact play. However looking at the claimed roles I agree with Bombay here saying these roles (at just face value in theory) just seems unbalanced that I'm not sure what to actual think and just feel like focusing on this is just not helping.

You're gonna need to sort it because right now it's 3 confirmed townies in my eyes and if you're trying to cast aspersions on that, I don't really like that.\

And the fact you're saying it as "not wanting to focus on it" to just ignore it instead of taking a stance is concerning too.

There's no way Ivan faked here and there's no way Shiro's scum.

In post 890, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 889, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 888, StrangeMatter wrote:Actually, Shiro can you confirm that you were in a neighborhood with LLD and Ivan? Kind of want an answer since I'm rethinking and found this to be potentially a bad paranoia.

You think Ivan and I would walk into this thread and Lie about Shiro being in the thread because we're... what, suicidal?

Honestly I wouldn't put it past anyone here in this game to make plays as such, but in all honesty, I don't think so anymore.

No but think ahead a few steps. If we lie about this... and shiro get into the thread.. and sees it.... what happens?

If you aren't lying then yeah that paranoia was just really bad.

In post 893, StrangeMatter wrote:If you aren't lying then yeah that paranoia was just really bad.

I am pretty sure they are always in a PT together here. The thing in question is if Ivan really has a parity cop, or if he just made the PT.

Ivan, can you talk about why you chose Shiro and LLD for your parity cop?

But looking at flipped roles and roles that are claimed, I don't feel like my fencesittyness here is particularly unjustified either.

In post 891, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:because right now it's 3 confirmed townies

And you are not questioning this at all? 3 confirmed townies from one ability, and he has claimed he can fire again. In addition to an alignment cop immune to roleblocks, that could also fire multiple times.

Even without taking my role into consideration, this is already a lot of alignment reveals firing on night 1.

In post 896, StrangeMatter wrote:But looking at flipped roles and roles that are claimed, I don't feel like my fencesittyness here is particularly unjustified either.

I'm telling you it is unjustified. I'm telling you to your face that treating this claim as anything but true when it was made into the dark vs. Bombay's claim...

I don't know what to tell you. It's not worth questioning it for like 2 days, cause honestly if Ivan's scum, what's the motivation in making me confirmed town?

In post 898, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:if Ivan's scum, what's the motivation in making me confirmed town?

I can think of one.