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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:07 pm
by mc esther
like, the single most widely scumread player in the game posts a case out of nowhere which literally not a single person agrees with. it's nice to be seen as threatening, but i cant take that compliment!

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:11 pm
by Prism
It's more of a statement about me than a statement about you.

I don't really want to rehash this from scratch again. I don't disagree that my stance softened, my point is that I was not secretly preparing a pivot. There is a fundamental disagreement on the value of my countering Dunnstral in 655 that I did not feel you acknowledged.

I should have time tomorrow to tackle several projects I have on deck. I'm not really confident in voting anywhere at the moment.

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:14 pm
by mc esther
no! take it back! i changed my mind, i want the compliment!

okay, sure, i acknowledge it.

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:24 pm
by Prism
Me: I should go to bed and prepare for my two interviews that affect my personal life goals and professional career

Also me: Someone is wrong on the internet and I will convince them why even if it is impossible

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:29 pm
by mc esther
dw, i'll still be here and wrong when you get back tomorrow

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:50 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 862, mc esther wrote:dwlee, who do you think my buddy is? i dont think i can find a read implying an answer anywhere, aside from some maybe-joking(?) digs at std.
Dunn is scummier than STD but I haven't looked at associatives between y'all

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:52 pm
by Dwlee99
Actually dunn feels like he is very transparently going for lim me -> lim STD for the win

He literally said it

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:57 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 861, Dunnstral wrote:I don't like that Dwlee is advocating to elim in the small hood for info but can't pinpoint what that info is, and won't try to do so.
lie
I don't like their fake looking analysis of their own kill choices:
In post 800, Dwlee99 wrote:I also wouldn't kill kuriyama though and your reason sounds more made up
In post 722, Dwlee99 wrote:If I were scum one of the puppies or prism would be very dead right now
As it seems pretty unfounded.
it's founded on me thinking I'd kill those people actually
I don't like this post:
In post 654, Dwlee99 wrote:Well rn everyone is operating on assumption MC Esther is scum right

And I think that assumption also plays into people's reads of her interactions with people in the big group to solve

If we confirm the assumption it doesn't hurt our odds of hitting scum in the big group

If it actually is IV I think the entire game changes

And how does the game change? (Also I disagree with that)
I explained this to norwee and then got called a smart ass for doing so

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:45 pm
by Brighter Puppy
In post 872, Prism wrote:
In post 870, mc esther wrote:why do you care so much about my scumread on you? like, you presumably dont view it as genuinely threatening.
For the first, the short answer is to sort you. The long answer is deeply ingrained habit.

Second, I do.
Am i correct in assuming that you as scum would more likely view an scumread from Esther as something to be ignored, than if you were town and feel forced to respond to it?

- Norwee

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:46 am
by mc esther
In post 881, Dwlee99 wrote:Actually dunn feels like he is very transparently going for lim me -> lim STD for the win
but is this, bad? i see these sorts of "lining up miselim" arguments a lot, and they never ring true for me (i might just be mad because people sometimes mistake my town play for this). if you think maf is between two people, you presumably believe they should both be eliminated, yeah? and have thoughts as to the correct elimination order? the problem sets in when someone tunnels the second elim to the point of ignoring new evidence, but you dont actually know whether or not someone's doing that from the initial post saying "we should lim x first and y second".

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:57 am
by mc esther
i dont think dunn's been exceptionally/weirdly hard on this, and i think dwlee knows that dunn knows that (omg no why am i writing like this) dunn isnt in a position to be lining up miselims here. this seems a very strange concern for self, though hey, it wouldnt be the first strange self-concern voiced today.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:40 am
by Dwlee99
In post 853, Dunnstral wrote:In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral
(though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)


VOTE: Dwlee
The bolded is weird though

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:32 am
by Save The Dragons
if it's not dwlee it's gotta be dunn

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:38 am
by Save The Dragons
but i'd bet money on dwlee

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:40 am
by Dwlee99
You would LOSE

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:40 am
by Dwlee99
Why do you think I'm scum again? Just cause I was absent D1?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:42 am
by Dwlee99
In post 886, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 853, Dunnstral wrote:In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral
(though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)


VOTE: Dwlee
The bolded is weird though
To explain why using STD post
Save The Dragons wrote:if it's not dwlee it's gotta be dunn
See this, it's like... oh well if it isn't dwlee then I think it's dunn

Dunn's isn't oh if it isn't dwlee it's STD, it's "STD looks worse"

Maybe this is nitpicky but it kind of betrays scum brain. It isn't about truth but appearances

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:48 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 890, Dwlee99 wrote:Why do you think I'm scum again? Just cause I was absent D1?
i mean that's a big part of it

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:48 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 891, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 886, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 853, Dunnstral wrote:In regards to Dwlee and Save the dragons: I have especially been not liking Dwlee's posts today, while Dragons is more neutral
(though if it's not Dwlee then they look worse today)


VOTE: Dwlee
The bolded is weird though
To explain why using STD post
Save The Dragons wrote:if it's not dwlee it's gotta be dunn
See this, it's like... oh well if it isn't dwlee then I think it's dunn

Dunn's isn't oh if it isn't dwlee it's STD, it's "STD looks worse"

Maybe this is nitpicky but it kind of betrays scum brain. It isn't about truth but appearances
but dunn and I both can't be scum so someone's doing it from a town perspective, maybe both of us

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:07 am
by Dwlee99
My point is your way is townie dunn scummy

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:08 am
by Save The Dragons
oh

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:15 am
by innocentvillager
In post 839, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 796, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel decent about IV town
y
In post 778, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 649, Dunnstral wrote:I'm leaning IV as scum but can see it being mc esther as well.

I'm thinking Dwlee of Save the Dragons in the big hood
why?
i don't think either of these were answered

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:20 am
by Save The Dragons
why are you so worried about why you are being townread all game

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:24 am
by innocentvillager
one scumreads me and one townreads me and neither of them have given any reasoning why

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:48 am
by Prism
I don't have the time I thought I would.

Very concerned about deadlock, Dragons voting in 6 currently swings tide. 4 votes for 3 but two are opposed.