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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:13 am
by Menalque
In post 871, MalcolmTucker wrote:Oops...I shall not do that again. And if I do you may call me Malcom as much as you like.
it's just a pet peeve, you're all good

also can you and norwee stop fighting because you're pretty much just talking past each other

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:15 am
by Menalque
like, stop me stop me, oh stop me if I'm wrong

but it seems like this boils down to

Norwee: I have a serious read/conviction that you're scum but the
manner
in which I'm pushing it means that it can be characterised as light-hearted

malc: if you push someone that is aimed at affecting the outcome of the game and is by definition not something that can be lighthearted, therefore you're being contradictory

I think this probably comes down to malc being a newer player vs norwee having been around for a while

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:16 am
by Well Done
In post 857, Menalque wrote:
Spoiler:
town:
butterchurn
StD
wallflower
well done
catboi
malc

leantown:
norwee
klick

nulltown:
The Keeper
Tracer Bullet


pile of null:
Nashville Dreams, Sword of Ducks, cassowary, tictac, mastina, papa leaf, MonkeyMan576, Enchant


nullscum:
CSF

scum?
toog
meg
bnuuy
Why do you have TracerBullet north of null?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:17 am
by butterchurn
I'm also curious about that. I don't know if Tracer Bullet always plays like this, but I don't think there's been anything to townread in their play so far, and personally I find it a bit suspicious.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:18 am
by Menalque
also, for the record I agree with norwee -- you can push something in a light-hearted way while still genuinely believing in it and I don't think there's a contradiction there. it's about building a bit of pressure vs trying to make sure someone bites the dirt

pedit: pure toneread, although if they're Koba which is a maybe then they go back into null

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:18 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 873, butterchurn wrote:
In post 861, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’ve been transparent the whole way but you’re still explaining away my play as "off" and such to shade me and it does not make me feel better about you when you constantly try to portray someone that votes you in as bad of an light as possible. That makes me think you don’t actually want to sort me but just try to accuse me and see what sticks.
I also accused you of being contradictory with your characterization of your push as both memey and serious, and at different times expecting Malcolm to read it as both ways and criticizing him for not doing so. Does that affect your read on me, or does that only matter when it's someone you already suspect?
In post 873, butterchurn wrote:
In post 861, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’ve been transparent the whole way but you’re still explaining away my play as "off" and such to shade me and it does not make me feel better about you when you constantly try to portray someone that votes you in as bad of an light as possible. That makes me think you don’t actually want to sort me but just try to accuse me and see what sticks.
I also accused you of being contradictory with your characterization of your push as both memey and serious, and at different times expecting Malcolm to read it as both ways and criticizing him for not doing so. Does that affect your read on me, or does that only matter when it's someone you already suspect?
I think it’s an very odd thing to focus on. Why does this at all matter?
Do you think scum are more likely to play in this way, and if so why?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:20 am
by Menalque
I figure if they're Koba then that should become clear soonish but for now I like the flippancy and irreverence

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:22 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I can stop pouncing and hyperfocusing on Malcolm for a bit though.

@Mena Why vote teh bunny?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:29 am
by butterchurn
In post 880, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think it’s an very odd thing to focus on. Why does this at all matter?
Do you think scum are more likely to play in this way, and if so why?
Potentially, yes, although I'm not so sure in this case. It felt like you kept moving the goalposts for how Malcolm should be interpreting your push, in a way that looked intentional to make him look bad or appear as the wrong one in the argument. It's possible that you were trying to increase the pressure on someone that you think is scum in order to catch them in a mistake, but the way you approached the conversation felt slightly more likely to be something scum would do.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:39 am
by Menalque
In post 882, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Mena Why vote teh bunny?
look at the ISO, if you still have questions hit me back up

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:56 am
by Save The Dragons
would not vote for
1. butterchurn
7. cassowary
8. Wallflower
11. Well Done (Dunnstral & Lukewarm)
13. catboi
17. MonkeyMan576
18. Klick
21. Flavor Leaf
22. Menalque
23. NorwegianboyEE

would vote for
2. Nashville Dreams (Titus & Malakittens)
3. Cat Scratch Fever
5. Toogeloo
6. Sword of Ducks
9. Tracer Bullet
10. The Keeper
12. MegAzumarill
14. MalcolmTucker
15. bnuuy
16. tictac
19. Enchant

mastina tier
4. Save The Dragons
20. mastina

didn't want mastina to be lonely in the mastina tier. plus it spells out 4 20 so blaze it

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:25 am
by Enchant
So i am back again thanks for support.

What i missed?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:29 am
by MegAzumarill
A beloved princess claim I think

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:30 am
by Sword of Ducks
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

bad feeling bad feeling!

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:31 am
by Enchant
In post 887, MegAzumarill wrote:A beloved princess claim I think
Like town need to be punished even more in this setup.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:32 am
by MonkeyMan576
I think town won pretty easily in the first game actually, right?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:35 am
by Enchant
We don't count games where mafia threw.

I didn't read this game of course.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:36 am
by MonkeyMan576
It was a 170 pg game I doubt they threw it.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:42 am
by MonkeyMan576
In post 888, Sword of Ducks wrote:VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

bad feeling bad feeling!
Bad vote.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:42 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 888, Sword of Ducks wrote:VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

bad feeling bad feeling!
Can you elaborate

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:45 am
by Menalque
hey, std, how would you feel about joining me on bnuuy?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:46 am
by Menalque
also StD, I would love to hear more on what papa leaf has done that makes you not want to vote for him/what you liked about cassowary?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:47 am
by MonkeyMan576
Maybe STD should have chosen a better acronym.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:49 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 895, Menalque wrote:hey, std, how would you feel about joining me on bnuuy?
sure

VOTE: bnunnnunnnunnunnunny

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:52 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 896, Menalque wrote:also StD, I would love to hear more on what papa leaf has done that makes you not want to vote for him/what you liked about cassowary?
flavor leaf is just gut i know he hasn't done much but i think i have a lot of other targets i'd rather vote for over him today

cassowary - besides the prodding of Sword of Ducks i really liked some of her posts for town looking back i'm not as impressed but i still think again as with flavor leaf there's just enough there to make me want to vote out a slew of other people over her