In post 866, Roden wrote:That's the thing though, I don't think she did anything different that earned her second wagon. If she's fucking up then she's fucking up for three days straight. What happened to her wagon the first time around?
her first wagon was an early rvs wagon and people just got bored and decided to try pushing something else? then once she got back and started spewing bad takes again, people voted again? it's not that deep.
I get why she's getting voted again. I just don't think it's that simple.
In post 870, Ausuka wrote:Firstly, I'd disagree that she didn't do anything to justify her second wagon - the way she handled that interaction with datisi was god awful
Secondly, the 'momentum' between Marci and Alex seems to be just me and Datisi. I think I've explained the reasoning in my votes at the very least. I don't think the wagons were large enough for this analysis to be particularly meaningful.
I'm not saying her second wagon isn't justified, I'm saying nothing about her play this game has changed. I think it's weird that scum would do something that got them scum read, escape the wagon, then continue to act the exact same way and get themself run up again.
Bella, Scamper, and Alex have also voted Marci. Though Alex only voted Marci because he decided to sheep you around the time her wagon regained momentum, before that he was town reading her.
In post 770, scamper wrote:okay but why did you stop, what are you doing right now, how are you approaching this game
do u have thoughts beyond datisi being scum or not?
i stopped because i had work...
right now im trying to go afk cuz thats the vibes, but then yall keep making convo about me so obv im gonna join in??
my approach this game is to just say what im thinking when im thinking. i think ive done enough of that early on.
now that the game is kicked off, my intention is to go afk (which work partly helps with). the reason i want to go afk is because i dont trust my opinions when im a loud voice in the town. so i sort of want to fade out, let someone else take spotlights and then read it all after and see if i have any better conclusions then. possibly gonna mess around and hard defend someone depending on how my read on said person is.
i could prob have other thoughts but datisi loves the attention, i know deep down he does...
This kinda feels genuine to me, I think Marci is probs town
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:12 am
by marcistar
??
the post shows im at least thinking
its not my fault u didnt care to ask for details
the post shows im at least thinking
its not my fault u didnt care to ask for details
It feels like you're just changing your behaviour after being called out and then saying the initial, accurate accusation isn't valid because of it.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:24 am
by marcistar
nah
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:27 am
by Ausuka
@Roden; I might have misinterpreted your statement about momentum then. I'm still not super clear about what you're getting at here? I would say Marci's recent play is significantly scummier than the stuff she did earlier in the game personally and I'm not sure where the assertion her play hasn't changed at all is coming from - I think that's rarely true for anyone.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:38 am
by Roden
I don't think she's gotten any scummier honestly. She got wagon'd the first time around because of her interactions with Crescent, where she was weirdly hyper critical of her and shading her intentions. She got wagon'd again for criticizing and shading Datisi, just this time she admitted she didn't know what she was even arguing about. She's been doing the same thing all game and it's been a major reason why I keep going back and forth between thinking she's scummy and then going "ok that was kinda townie".
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:42 am
by Roden
I guess this is more "my thoughts on Marci are complicated and I'm confused about wtf is going on with her" and less a defense of Marci, in case it's coming across as the latter
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:43 am
by Ausuka
I mean I guess I see where you're coming from? Personally I think Marci's recent posts have been much scummier and I've tried to outline why
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:50 am
by Roden
I do see your point, and since I town read you and Datisi I feel like your takes have some weight and that's something I'm taking into account
Occam's Razor says Marci's probably just scum here and that she's being confusing on purpose to try to go for "too scummy to be scummy"
Gut says that I'm missing info that would explain her actions
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:55 am
by Roden
Since I scum read Alex, I'm also taking into account a scenario where scum!Alex is voting town!Marci, and I'm trying to understand how that works out with how scummy Marci's been. Mainly because I really hate Alex's vote. It's possible they're both scum too.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:57 am
by marcistar
im not scum..
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:00 am
by marcistar
yall just hate on me cuz its what easiest and doesnt make u need to reevaluate ur reads
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:01 am
by Ausuka
I mean I'm obviously sympathetic to the idea of scum Alex? But like yeah, there are worlds where this is bussing, or worlds where Alex is just town who voted Marci because she's being scummy
I'm not ruling out the idea that there's something that would explain this from town Marci but I'm not sure what it would be? I checked some past games and I don't think she's Like This as town
I didn't think Alex's vote was terrible but I'm probably biased because it was sheeping me! I guess hopefully he'll clarify about it when he returns from v/la
Pedit: so true
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:02 am
by Roden
In post 887, marcistar wrote:yall just hate on me cuz its what easiest and doesnt make u need to reevaluate ur reads
Who do you think needs to be reevaluated?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:03 am
by marcistar
stay tuned for on thursday when i sit down and figure this shit out!!
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:04 am
by marcistar
i think its some bs happenong rn it just feels like running in circles tho
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:31 am
by Freedom
In post 891, marcistar wrote:i think its some bs happenong rn it just feels like running in circles tho
What do you think is?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
vote count 1.09
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-12 12:00:00).
