Death Curse

[Bell]

What if shelly made him?

Made me what?

[Bell]

assisted * not unassisted.
I felt she knew my alignment in one game and that allowed her to read me accurately in the other.
I was right as it turned out.

[MURDERCAT]

What if shelly made him?

Made me what?

Bus more aggressively than you normally would

[Bell]

....Why would shelly want me to bus her when her scum game is better than mine?

[Bell]

And in that sort of manner?
That doesn't make sense at all.

[Bell]

She also doesn't like being bussed if I recall correctly.

In an old game with MICC when she just got here she asked him why she was being pushed by him as much as he was and felt it unjustified.

There's simply no reason for Shellyc to do that especially when she likes being scum and prefers living as long as possible unless...I guess she felt doomed.

Did scum bus her at all? I haven't reached that point in my catch up.

[MURDERCAT]

....Why would shelly want me to bus her when her scum game is better than mine?

Shelly may know that she can't get to the end. She gives herself up to get you to the end. That's the thought anyway.

[Bell]

Nah, my case wasn't one where she would have been doomed.
It was mushed that closed that deal, I was still trying to articulate myself because I didn't like my reasons because they were soft. I said as much in my notes PT.

[MURDERCAT]

She said recently that Noraa can consistently read her, she may have been worried about that

[Bell]

....Why would shelly want me to bus her when her scum game is better than mine?

Shelly may know that she can't get to the end. She gives herself up to get you to the end. That's the thought anyway.

In bizzaro land I could see this.

[Noraa]

....Why would shelly want me to bus her when her scum game is better than mine?

Shelly may know that she can't get to the end. She gives herself up to get you to the end. That's the thought anyway.

The first game I had on site, I was scum with shelly. She killed herself day 2 and push me to the end. It didn't work. I died the day after her but I mean .... she really likes to sacrifice herself from my experience.

[Bell]

She said recently that Noraa can consistently read her, she may have been worried about that

Is Noraa particularly good at getting her scum reads eliminated?

[MURDERCAT]

She said recently that Noraa can consistently read her, she may have been worried about that

Is Noraa particularly good at getting her scum reads eliminated?

Yeah see 2172

[Bell]

....Why would shelly want me to bus her when her scum game is better than mine?

Shelly may know that she can't get to the end. She gives herself up to get you to the end. That's the thought anyway.

The first game I had on site, I was scum with shelly. She killed herself day 2 and push me to the end. It didn't work. I died the day after her but I mean .... she really likes to sacrifice herself from my experience.

Sounds like a good reason not to do it again tbf.
I don't know why you didn't ask her to do that or why you even accepted that kind of proposal.
I imagine you weren't happy with it either.

I wouldn't let her, let me bus her given the game state. She wasn't under any pressure.

[Noraa]

She said recently that Noraa can consistently read her, she may have been worried about that

I'm surprised I didn't have a strong soul read on her. When she flipped red, I was like HUH but I couldn't talk at the time about great idea.

So in great idea, I had a strong gut read that she was scum. Like DEATHLY strong.
This game, I had some small gut pings which I articulated but I never trusted them all the way cuz shelly always looks scummy. Normally she looks more scummy as town.

I had suspicions but her flipping red still came low-key as a shock at the time.

[Noraa]

or was it grand idea? idk

[MURDERCAT]

I'm not against Noraa scum, I need to see a case from you though.

[Noraa]

She said recently that Noraa can consistently read her, she may have been worried about that

Is Noraa particularly good at getting her scum reads eliminated?

no............
the opposite in fact :/

[Noraa]

I don't know why you didn't ask her to do that or why you even accepted that kind of proposal.

uhhhhhhhhh at the time I thought that even if she cc'ed a pr and the pr flipped green, she wouldn't get limmed. Newbie thoughts don't always make sense.

[Bell]

Yeah, if you discredit yourself by asking about the set up or saying silly things with a play style that first impression is going to stick and hurt your credibility.

[Bell]

It hurt mine/confused me when you kept switching between being derpy and not being derpy.

[MURDERCAT]

Pooky I'm wavering on Bell

[Bell]

Classic technique to go UTR really.

Terrible idea to do as town imo.
But I mean, I suck. So what do I know.

[Noraa]

Sounds like a good reason not to do it again tbf.

she did it in her second scum game with me too. I currently just think she does it in every scum game.

I've been in 3 shelly scum games, she did it in two. The other she repped in late and her partner was already basically dead by the time she got there so she couldn't really sac herself.

[MURDERCAT]

We were both SRing Noraa late beyond most people on D1 and uno still had doubts.

A question for Pooky, are Noraa's reads consistent with what you believe to be her skill as town?