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Andrius wrote:OH SHIT.
That shouldn't break the rules because it wasn't mod communication... right?

It's from a public, non-game thread so it's fine, but don't make a habit of it.

dramonic did indeed reach L-1 at one point (sorry, was flying home), but majority was never reached.


dramonic (Andrius, TheLonging, vezokpiraka, animorpherv1, gandalf5166, Furcolow, Chronopie, Friend, ReaperCharlie)
Andrius (inHimshallibe, Me=Weird, xvart, ooba, Faraday, dramonic)
TheLonging (Erg0)
gandalf5166 (Yosarian2)
Furcolow (Porochaz)
Chronopie (Lord Gurgi)

ReaperCharlie wrote:He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

I'm a bodyguard, by extension dim. Maybe I like blonde bimbos?

ReaperCharlie wrote:

Erg0 wrote:A mafia Bodyguard claiming Bodyguard would be a pretty poor move.

Um... yeah it'd be a sucky move, but if it's the only move that might save them from being lynched,

they would probably do just that.

Plus, this is dramonic we're talking about here.

I'd hardly say it's the claim that could have saved him. There are plenty of other unproveable claims that would do the job without raising flavour issues. I don't know whether dram's someone that would actually of that, but I have to at least credit him with a basic level of intelligence.

Erg0 wrote: I don't know whether dram's someone that would actually

think

of that, but I have to at least credit him with a basic level of intelligence.

I'd probably come up with something better as scum, FWIW.

Furcolow, 859 wrote:i agree that dramonic is a good lynch
even if he's town, which i doubt, he has "always been catching up"

The cardinal rule: always leave yourself outs.

TheLonging, 866 wrote:also RC I have softclaimed like a billion times

People who are eager to point out their softclaims are scummy.

xvart.

Erg0 wrote:

ReaperCharlie wrote:

Erg0 wrote:A mafia Bodyguard claiming Bodyguard would be a pretty poor move.

Um... yeah it'd be a sucky move, but if it's the only move that might save them from being lynched,

they would probably do just that.

Plus, this is dramonic we're talking about here.

I'd hardly say it's the

only

claim that could have saved him. There are plenty of other unproveable claims that would do the job without raising flavour issues. I don't know whether dram's someone that would actually

think

of that, but I have to at least credit him with a basic level of intelligence.

but...

this is dramonic we're talking about here.

His comment on Dram's claim of Dram's goal being guarding bimbo's stuck me as being off...

EBWOP: *working for stars* not guarding.

Dram's town. (Or was at the start of N0)

Chronopie wrote:

Holster

Dram's town. (Or was at the start of N0)

You want to fight over this, or you just going to skate by just saying that?

Chronopie wrote:

Pistol whip (HoS): ReaperCharlie

His comment on Dram's claim of Dram's goal being guarding bimbo's stuck me as being off...

/backhands Chronopie

dramonic wrote:something about working for stars.

This line Screams Town.

ReaperCharlie wrote:This is a Mafia-flavored game, not a Hollywood-flavored game. He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

IMO, this line doesn't.

If the wagon doesn't end up going through, Andrius remains a fine lynch candidate.

Chronopie wrote:

ReaperCharlie wrote:This is a Mafia-flavored game, not a Hollywood-flavored game. He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

IMO, this line doesn't.

Go read the sample PR role PM again you scholar.

We are all goons dumb man.
We used to work for the don.
If anything the sample PM confirms Dram as town.

Let's kill andrius scum.

xvart

said:

1

So questioning people is scummy?

2

So sinking to your level is scummy? Your level being scummy? Is that right?

3

Was your vote a joke? Or was it a test to see if I would "come to [your] level"? It can't be both.

4

So it wasn't a joke? It was a reaction vote? Make up your mind please.

1. It can be.
2. For a player like you to be doing so, yes, it is indicative of scum. For me to do so? No. I'm already slumming it. You are perched high with your ego.
3. My vote was partially a joke, but was also geared as reactionary. It worked and also earned attitude from you which makes me believe you could be scum moreso than before.
4. See above, but when I do things, I do them for a reason. I had a town read on you up until the point all this went down. I like how you tried to slip in some questioning and needling of me while I was away. Nice of you.

While I'm talking to you, I'd like to see your 2 potential scum recruiters/recruitees from the night


@everyone else:
I see mixed reactions to the dramonic wagon. I am inclined to not believe that particular claim in this setup. Who is he supposed to be protecting? Is it the type of bodyguard that dies if his target is hit, or is it the type that protects a set role? Do you get to pick?

I dislike vezokpiraka's latest post/willingness to wagon
FoS

@RC, here's the sample VT Role PM, bolded for emphasis as to why I believe that Dram is town, with his claim of going to hollywood to work for the stars:

Mr. Flay wrote:This game does not have an Open Setup; however, for balance reasons, here are two sample Role PMs:

Sample Townie

You're

Bruno

, one of the goons of the Calagesi

'ndrina

. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), your Godfather was lynched by the town.

Now you've got a chance to go open that pizzeria and be a normal citizen

, if only you can get rid of the Capo's two ruthless sons. During the day, you can use the threat of your gun (vote) to discover the truth about other players. During the night you had best keep to your room and out of the way.

Win Condition:

You win when the Capo's sons and their allies are dead or neutralized,

and you can go open that pizzeria like you always wanted.

Powers:

• No Night Actions:
  You may not leave your room or converse at Night unless told otherwise (in an ordinary game, you would be considered a
  Vanilla Townie
  ).
  
• Vote
  _{(active, day, via thread)}
  :
  You may vote for any one player at any time during the Day; I prefer if you use the flavor phrase
  Aim: Player
  , but the VOTE: tag works as well. UNVOTE: should become
  Holster
  , if you can remember to do so.

Basically, Our role PM's have an additional flavour in the Wincon. Dram claimed an additional flavour of going to work for the stars. tl;dr: Town.

Also: Andrius is town due to this:

Actually, dramonic, claim your name.

And the second part of your WinCon. What are you doing after this affair is all sorted out?

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And for Clarity, The Sample Mafioso pm:

Mr. Flay wrote:

Sample Power Role

You're

Bastiano

, Don of the powerful Calagesi

'ndrina

. You rule the (admittedly small) underworld of the town of Cerenzia with an iron fist, and until recently no one even suspected of you of being involved with the mob. Now the uppity town has started to cause problems, and it's time for you and your boys to take action!

Win Condition:

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Powers:

• Vote
  _{(active, day, via thread)}
  :
  During the Day, you may vote for any one player at any time; I prefer if you use the flavor phrase
  Aim: Player
  , but the VOTE: tag works as well. UNVOTE: should become
  Holster
  , if you can remember to do so.
  
• Faction Kill
  _{(active, night, via PM)}
  :
  You are a
  Godfather
  ; as such, each Night you may order the murder of one Townsperson. Select a member of your criminal organization to perform the kill, and they will do their best to see that it is done. If you die, this ability will pass to one of your sons.
  
• Investigation Immunity
  _{(passive, night)}
  :
  You will come up as Innocent to any Cerenzia Police Department investigations, unless you conduct the Night Kill yourself that evening.
  
• Kill Immunity
  _{(passive, night, single-use)}
  :
  You also have a one-shot Night Kill Immunity through the efforts of your driver/bodyguard.
  
• Faction Allies
  _{(special, night)}
  :
  Individual members of your organization may also have additional skills to offer you; discuss them at Night in this QuickTopic.

'ndrina:

A local unit of the 'Ndrangheta criminal organization in Italy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'ndrina for more information.

Has No Additional WC clause.

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As such, the Fact that you attacked Dram's "Working for the stars" part of his claim suggests to me that Do not have any additional clause. TL;DR .

I would like The Dram AND Andrius Wagons to dissolve now. We have a better (Scum) Lynch Target.

dram's town let's lynch andrius.

Oh, I didn't realize I hadn't posted.

Um, post.

Um, I like-a my vote-a.

Yeah, I have one Chrono. I just don't believe his. Working for stars? That sounds patently retarded.

Correct me if I'm wrong (actually, don't), but I'm assuming Flay would write better flavor than that.

Because opening a pizzeria sounds particularely better?
Also, the flavour is good, don't insult it you jerk >:(

Chrono is outguessing the mod.

because reaper isn't?