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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:56 am
by Secret Project
that was a redundant sentence.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:17 pm
by Secret Project
no posts in over 6 hours. SOMEBODY HAMMER

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:10 pm
by Secret Project
VOTE: WormyKrew

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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:51 pm
by Soben
TWIE is scum attempting to lurk this day out, he's been online multiple times in the past 48 hours while avoiding posting in this thread, if I die I expect you to at least strongly consider lynching him and Elsa.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:00 pm
by mastin2
I don't want you to die, Soben. :(
You're by far the most pro-town player here. :)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:18 pm
by mastin2
*sigh*
My Patients is really being tested right now.

Less than 12 hours until I have to leave. It'd make me feel MUCH better if I knew Krew's alignment before I left. (Considering if I don't, I'll be thinking about it for all five days, non-stop. :P)

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:56 am
by Captain Corporal
Holy crap. What just happened. TWIE was at L-1. Even though I felt uneasy, I had a much stronger scumread on TWIE. How did that bandwagon jump so quickly?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:09 am
by mastin2
Captain.

Please?

I'm not going to have a minute's rest during the trip if I don't see a lynch... >_<

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:13 am
by Soben
Captain, the change of wagon had a lot to do with near-deadline scrambling I believe, the fact that TWIE has continued to refrain from stating his opinion on Wormy despite their obvious competition for leading wagon says volumes and people need to take their heads out of their asses and realize the case against him doesn't actually revolve around meta only but rather his continual anti-town and scummy actions.

There's a high likelihood that despite Wormys reduction of content as the day has progressed and his avoidance of this thread he's going to flip town and although I'm tempted to continue to attempt to defend his lynch Scumhunter is telling me that it's futile. Secret and Mastin, consider this as a begging for you to return the favour or strike some form of compromise for tommorow if I live that long:
Vote: WormyKrew.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:19 am
by Soben
Considering the thread is likely to be closed in the next few hours I want to use this as a last chance to repeat my reads incase they aren't incredibly obvious by now.

Strong Town Reads:
Secret, Mastin, Jillyn, Yoshi and Captain.
Weaker Town Reads:
Brokenscraps and Ironhead (Scumhunter suspects Ironhead though).
Null Reads:
Aldusskel and WeirdAlex.
Strong Scum Reads:
Elsa and TWIE.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:41 am
by Captain Corporal
Whoops, I thought Krew already had been hammered when I posted. My bad.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:01 am
by SleepyKrew
Great job guys >.>

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:02 am
by Captain Corporal
We're vigging Elsa tonight, right?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:03 am
by SleepyKrew
Did nobody bother reading the dismantling of mastin's case?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:14 am
by Ironhead
Soben, what in the world have you done?! You were one of my strongest town-reads; I never figured you to be the one to buckle under the pressure of Secret Project and mastin2 petulantly demanding a hammer. The deadline was 26 June -- we could have waited out TWIE and forced him to reappear in the thread, even if it took a prod from the GM.

Please share with us why you hammered. Was it because you wanted to help mastin2 see WormyKrew's role before he left, lest he be tormented by not knowing for five days? Or was it because you sought Secret Project's approval as he demanded that someone hammer?

Surely it wasn't because you thought WormyKrew was scummier than TWIE. Your #903 provided us all with a good reason to hold off on lynching WormyKrew until we get a straight answer from TWIE, but you couldn't wait more than a few hours.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:19 am
by Soben
The reasoning frankly is simple, throughout the past few days multiple players have acted in an extremely anti-town manner for the sole reason of boredom and wanting the day to end. Continual actions like this give scum ammunition to use in regards to creating cases later in the game. The only way to prevent such actions from continuing to occur is to end the day as well as openely showing Secret and Mastin that their constant tunneling towards Wormy a leading vote-getting throughout the entire day is wrong and hope for better tommorow.

Furthermore Wormys avoidance of this thread in critical point where it was vital for him to openely explain what makes him town and why TWIE is indeed a better lynch than him would have led towards his hammer regardless allowing us no extra information than what we currently have.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:23 am
by SleepyKrew
Cept I kinda dismantled the case on me... y'know.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:27 am
by Captain Corporal
:S

Vig Elsa toight.
TWIE tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:30 am
by Soben
Sleepy, Mastins case wasn't the reason players were voting you, far from it, everyone agreed to a degree that Mastins interactions and case was terribad. The reasoning for the bandwagon against you stemmed from disagreement over your early game play as well as your OMGUS on SecretProject when he began suspecting you. This was something you continued to refrain from properly explaining and I'm going to go ahead and take a guess by saying that there was a complete lack of reasoning for it and that was something you didn't want to admit.

Ironhead, for the record if you believed the case against TWIE was far stronger and you didn't want the day to end before he responded to it then can you explain your change of your towards WormyKrew while not requesting a chance to reply before the day ended.

Pedit: Captain is correct, both TWIE and Elsa need rope.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:59 am
by wierdalexv
Wormy, I take it you're town?

Crap. Well, what Corporal and Soben said.

Elsa tonight, TWIE tomorrow.

mastin2 wrote:I don't want you to die, Soben. :(
You're by far the most pro-town player here. :)
That's TOTALLY going to help them stay alive. :applause: to you, Mastin.[/sarcasm]

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:23 am
by DarthYoshi
Are we sure that there has been a hammer? Based on alex's vc, I am not sure there has been, can someone enlighten me? This would also be exactly why more frequent vote counts would be helpful...

Sobens 918 is right on the money. His note about TWIE is well taken, too, I have seen TWIE be far more active towards the end of the game as town than this. Additionally, I am actually slightly inclined to believe wormys claim.

If there hasn't been a hammer yet, then
Unvote. Vote TWIE.


If there has been a hammer, then TWIE needs to be vigged tonight.

PS, Mastin, I hought the urgency to get a lynch was for enough time for claims and whatnot based on your comment about it being a courtesy. Didn't realize it was more for your own peace of mind. This game does not revolve around you. Hastening a lynch like that for reasons like that is incredibly selfish and anti town.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:53 am
by Elsa von Spielburg
Vig voting is a tie 5-5. So Vig Alex tonight, jily. Like Ironhead said, in the end we are just giving suggestions; the decision rests with you.

Too many people are agreeing too quickly when setting up the next few kills. Some of them are scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:05 am
by SleepyKrew
Really Soben? I seem to recall everyone jumping on because mastin was all like "Irontown Krewscum!"

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:17 am
by Soben
Elsa again attempts to work with the self-preservation via making an appeal to emotion to Jillyn over who her vig target should be rather thatn stating her opinion on the hammer, lynch choice and reactions. Sleepy, if you believe people were following Mastins cases or opinions and that soley then how come no one apart from Mastin has stated suspicion towards DarthYoshi.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:18 am
by SleepyKrew
The Yoshi thing is separate.