Mafiascum.net

Or we could just lynch the "Godfather" aka the head scum honcho and then let you clowns lynch the easier scum after we're NKd off

i dunno man, i think i'm up against the greatest god damn scum hunter ever

i mean, we got people saying they got a scum read off less than a dozen of my slot's posts, and they didn't even bother lynching him

AFTER ALL THATS WHAT TOWN DOES, RIGHT, THEY LYNCH TOWN INSTEAD OF SCUM AND THEY CUT DEALS AND SAY, "OH, SURE, I'LL VOTE FOR THE OBVSCUM THAT TURNS OUT TO BE GODFATHER, BUT YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR TOASTYTOWN TOMORROW"

REAL TOWN PLAY AT ITS FINEST YEP YEP YEP

REMEMBER, THE ONLY REASON SOME OF YOU VOTED FOR HIRAKI WAS BECAUSE OTHER FOLKS PROMISED TOASTY'S DEATH THE FOLLOWING DAY

shhh don't let them know we're on to them

you're right, i've got the whole "this guy is a moron" thing going for me

I'M ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOT IN ANY WAY LOOKING INTO THE MOTIVATIONS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE CUTTING DEALS TO SEE THEIR GODFATHER LYNCHED AND AS SUCH I WILL NEVER FIGURE OUT WHO YOU GUYS ARE AND YOU DEFINITELY DON'T NEED TO NIGHT KILL ME ANY TIME SOON BECAUSE I'M JUST A HARMLESS IDIOT WITH NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY MAFIA

Maxous wrote:A bit late now, but the reason I thought Toasty was scum because of it was the overly detailed and explained reasoning he gave for switching his vote from likely town WC to mafia Hiraki.
I thought he was scum afraid to just simply change his vote because it might of been seen as bussing.

And yet you are saying he was bussing for making that huge post where he actually put effort into the game. So the above is just an exercise in WIFOM, honestly.

Maxous wrote:I have a question for you Magna.
In day 2 you strongly implied you beleived Toasty to be scum. Why the change of heart?

I ‘implied’ he was scum to get votes on Hiraki. He was obv-scum by his play (which I think you agreed with based on the cases I presented) and I went the ‘hey vote Hiraki today and I’ll help you out tomorrow’ route to secure the lynch.

There was no way I was pushing for Toasty today. His flip to Hiraki came at a critical juncture and with Hiraki’s flip I doubted he was scum.

Maxous wrote:This guy is an acceptable lynch.

Why aren’t you voting him if you think so?

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kuribo wrote:Oh please, you show me someone who can get a solid scum read off someone with 12 posts--- 2 announcing his VLA and 4 from the RVS. You show me that, and I'll let you fuck my sister because that guy is scumhunter of the year.

This is the pure essence of “I’m caught for all the wrong reasons (I replaced a scummy slot that wasn’t on Hiraki Day 2)”.

Just vote Fate kuribo …

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Fate wrote:Yeah double bus back to back that's your style

"IF YOU THINK IM SCUM VOTE FOR FATE IM BUSSING AGAIN"

Yup, I’m totally ‘bussing’ you. Accept it.


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Wrath wrote:I think we're going about this the wrong way. I think we should be looking at the people that were reluctant to switch to Hiraki at first then flopped over once he had dug himself a deep enough hole.

Do you believe my premise that at least one (and maybe more) of Fate / kuribo / Ant must have scum?

In fact screw it ... I'm not waiting ...

I am so confident that Fate is scum at this stage that if he flips Town I will not fight my lynch at all tomorrow.

↑ kuribo wrote:

↑ Maxous wrote:This guy is an acceptable lynch.Trying to erase the read on the slot due to a low number of posts is nonsense.

Oh please, you show me someone who can get a solid scum read off someone with 12 posts--- 2 announcing his VLA and 4 from the RVS. You show me that, and I'll let you fuck my sister because that guy is scumhunter of the year.

For arguments sake in this game town GreyICE nailed scum ROTN in about 4.
But that was'nt the point.

MOI did'nt say he had a 'solid' scum read, he said that just because you replaced in it does'nt mean the slot is wiped clean.
Which is correct.
Your response is to point to a low amount of posts stating it is unreadable. You can get a read on people with a single post.
The 'judge only my play, don't look at the previous guy' comes more from scum than town in my experience.

For the record, yes I do think MOI is being unfair saying the slot did'nt vote Hiraki because Scott B did'nt post at all that day.

P-Edit: Yes, I thought Toasty bussed.

P-Edit 2: And we are not playing gladiators.

yeah, 1v1, on day 3, that's sure town

wait, I don't think i have enough of those in there

Here's the Derpwagon on me:
-: Plain vote, no reason/case
-: Plain vote, no reason/case
-LLD: Plain vote, no reason/case
-: Plain vote, no reason/case
-Sera: Plain vote, no reason/case
-Kdowns: Plain vote, no reason/case
: Plain vote, no reason/case


, , Lady Lambdadelta
Rayfrost, MoI


, , Lady Lambdadelta, , Seraphim, kdowns,
Rayfrost, MoI, WC


, Lady Lambdadelta, , kdowns,
Rayfrost, MoI, WC, Seraphim


, Lady Lambdadelta, , kdowns,
RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,


- , kdowns,
- RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,


- , kdowns,
- RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,


- ,
- RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous, , SpyreX, kdowns, Lady Lambdadelta

Analysis coming soon.

↑ Maxous wrote:

↑ kuribo wrote:

↑ Maxous wrote:This guy is an acceptable lynch.Trying to erase the read on the slot due to a low number of posts is nonsense.

Oh please, you show me someone who can get a solid scum read off someone with 12 posts--- 2 announcing his VLA and 4 from the RVS. You show me that, and I'll let you fuck my sister because that guy is scumhunter of the year.

For arguments sake in this game town GreyICE nailed scum ROTN in about 4.
But that was'nt the point.

MOI did'nt say he had a 'solid' scum read, he said that just because you replaced in it does'nt mean the slot is wiped clean.
Which is correct.
Your response is to point to a low amount of posts stating it is unreadable. You can get a read on people with a single post.
The 'judge only my play, don't look at the previous guy' comes more from scum than town in my experience.

For the record, yes I do think MOI is being unfair saying the slot did'nt vote Hiraki because Scott B did'nt post at all that day.

P-Edit: Yes, I thought Toasty bussed.

P-Edit 2: And we are not playing gladiators.

it's not "the amount of posts" by my slot that's the issue, and you know god damn well that's not what i'm saying

it's "Oh, you can't erase the read I had on Scott Brosius." which is an absofuckinglutely retarded assertation to make

now, if one were to say that they had a scum read on him due to his LACK of participation, fuck it, i can get behind that, but THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING SAID

i'm not trying to minimize a god damn thing, what i am doing is openly mocking retarded scumhunting

big difference

Also, with the Godfather flip I'd say Sera is one step closer to confirmed town.

↑ WrathChild wrote:Here's the Derpwagon on me:
-

Toasty

: Plain vote, no reason/case
-

GI

: Plain vote, no reason/case
-LLD: Plain vote, no reason/case
-

Hiraki

: Plain vote, no reason/case
-Sera: Plain vote, no reason/case
-Kdowns: Plain vote, no reason/case

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Dramonic

: Plain vote, no reason/case

Day 2 Vote Count #1:

WC (3):

ToastyToast

,

GreyICE

, Lady Lambdadelta

Hiraki (2):

Rayfrost, MoI

Day 2 Vote Count #2:

WC (7):

ToastyToast

,

GreyICE

, Lady Lambdadelta,

Hiraki

, Seraphim, kdowns,

dramonic

Hiraki (3):

Rayfrost, MoI, WC

Day 2 Vote Count #3:

WC (5):

GreyICE

, Lady Lambdadelta,

Hiraki

, kdowns,

dramonic

Hiraki (4):

Rayfrost, MoI, WC, Seraphim

Day 2 Vote Count #4:

WC (5):

GreyICE

, Lady Lambdadelta,

Hiraki

, kdowns,

dramonic

Hiraki (6):

RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,

ToastyToast

Day 2 Vote Count #5:

WrathChild (3)

-

Hiraki

, kdowns,

dramonic

Hiraki (6)

- RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,

ToastyToast

Day 2 Vote Count #6:

WrathChild (3)

-

Hiraki

, kdowns,

dramonic

Hiraki (6)

- RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,

ToastyToast

Day 2 Vote Count #7:

WrathChild (2)

-

Hiraki

,

dramonic

Hiraki (9)

- RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, Seraphim, Maxous,

ToastyToast

, SpyreX, kdowns, Lady Lambdadelta

Analysis coming soon.

First thing is that I feel my wagon hit critical mass at vote count #2. Town-Toast drops and Seraphim flops. We know Toast was town and I suspect Sera is town. This only puts the vote count (#3) at 5 (WC) vs 4 (Scum-Hiraki), so at this point the scum are still thinking there is a chance to lynch me. The count on me remains the same for Vote Count #4, but Scum-Hiraki's gains momentum with the addition of Maxous and Town-Toast, putting it at 5 (WC) vs. 6 (Scum-Hiraki). At this point I suspect scum realize that WC is not getting lynch and there's a good chance Scum-Hiraki will. So the change from VC #4 to VC#5 is critical. We see LLD flop to Town-Toast (No reasoning provided), but why not Scum-Hiraki? Then there's an extended Radio-Silence from LLD until she decides to come back and hammer Scum-Hiraki, only if we promise to hang Town-Toast today.

After all the crap that Maru spewed out I think this is conclussive evidence that LLD is scum as well.

I also am suspicious of the scum-speed bus by Kdowns and LLD combined. Remember when Hiraki was trying to give Kdowns town-pants for his ability being confirmed?

I'd lynch the hellout of LLD sure thats all I do every game all the time.

But uh

MoI

Scum

Much more gratifying if we lynch him

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:In fact screw it ... I'm not waiting ...

I am so confident that Fate is scum at this stage that if he flips Town I will not fight my lynch at all tomorrow.

1 v 1 - lynch Fate today and if I am wrong I can be lynched tomorrow or vigged tonight!!!

Lol what the hell?

This plan involves me being lynched first so lol no thanks

Godddddd

I can't believe I have to do this with you two but:

Girls, you're both pretty. Take a deep breath, get a drink, and pull out of this spiral. Kuribo, Fate and MoI are all town and lets USE a good lynch and move good instead of a hatecluster we're working on.

I'll give it one day.

ONE.




Only for you SpyreX

↑ SpyreX wrote:Girls, you're both pretty. Take a deep breath, get a drink, and pull out of this spiral. Kuribo, Fate and MoI are all town and lets USE a good lynch and move good instead of a hatecluster we're working on.

Spyrex you have to tell me why they are both Town ... I just can't see it ....

Why does Town (aside from pointless ego) determine after Hiraki's lynch the best, most likely scum candidates are those who most pushed the Hiraki lynch?

Help me out Spyrex!!!!

Also - what do you think of my theory that at least one more scum was off the Hiraki wagon besides Hiraki? Do you think I am crazy?

↑ SpyreX wrote: instead of a hatecluster

hold up, i don't remember agreeing to take the hateclusters off the table

you do know i enjoy the hateclusters, right

i mean

they keep me young

↑ Fate wrote:I'll give it one day.

ONE.

Unvote:
Vote: LLD

Only for you SpyreX

I think he said a "good" lynch.

Also, I like how quickly you backed out of that 1v1.

Also, SpyreX's mediation of this can be interpreted as scummy if one of MoI/Fate flip scum.

Cut:



I'm ready to lynch Fate. He's not town here.

For reasons:

1) Pushing MoI hard, then backing off when given the out, because MoI insists on a 1v1. Town Fate doesn't back down from shit like that, especially if he's not worried about being lynched (which he only usually is when he's scum).
2) The post #918. Loook at how fake that tone is. He's giving the 1v1 another day? Seriously? No. He's backing out of the 1v1, so he can try and lynch MoI tomorrow and not have the 1v1 in play. He'll then probably fake some kind of false guilty on MoI to secure his lynch, and backout of the claim just as MoI is nearing L-1, and have some VI follower of his hammer. He'll try to escape the 1v1 this way, and it's scummy.
3) Look at how certain Fate was that MoI is scum. Never have I ever seen Fate town back down from someone he considers scum voting him. On multiple occasions, he considers it a "scumclaim" and just tunnels the wagon to lynch. That is Fate!town.

THIS IS NOT FATE!TOWN.

So now Fate will come back and yell, scream, bitch and moan for my lynch.

Do not give it to him. He is SCUM.

Cut: MoI, don't give him any rope here. He's scum.

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Why does Town (aside from pointless ego) determine after Hiraki's lynch the best, most likely scum candidates are those who most pushed the Hiraki lynch?

i don't recall saying that anyone was most likely scum, i just recall you losing your shit because i turned my attention to Rayray

by the by, i still maintain that 1v1s are fucking retarded and anti-town

↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

↑ Fate wrote:I'll give it one day.

ONE.

Unvote:
Vote: LLD

Only for you SpyreX

I think he said a "good" lynch.

Also, I like how quickly you backed out of that 1v1.

Also, SpyreX's mediation of this can be interpreted as scummy if one of MoI/Fate flip scum.

Cut:

Vote: Fate

I'm ready to lynch Fate. He's not town here.

For reasons:

1) Pushing MoI hard, then backing off when given the out, because MoI insists on a 1v1. Town Fate doesn't back down from shit like that, especially if he's not worried about being lynched (which he only usually is when he's scum).
2) The post #918. Loook at how fake that tone is. He's giving the 1v1 another day? Seriously? No. He's backing out of the 1v1, so he can try and lynch MoI tomorrow and not have the 1v1 in play. He'll then probably fake some kind of false guilty on MoI to secure his lynch, and backout of the claim just as MoI is nearing L-1, and have some VI follower of his hammer. He'll try to escape the 1v1 this way, and it's scummy.
3) Look at how certain Fate was that MoI is scum. Never have I ever seen Fate town back down from someone he considers scum voting him. On multiple occasions, he considers it a "scumclaim" and just tunnels the wagon to lynch. That is Fate!town.

THIS IS NOT FATE!TOWN.

So now Fate will come back and yell, scream, bitch and moan for my lynch.

Do not give it to him. He is SCUM.

Cut: MoI, don't give him any rope here. He's scum.

oh, and nice OMGUS there LLD

a pleasure as always