Mini 1353 - Dr. Who Mafia - The End of Time (Game Over)

[Starbuck]

Why's that?

[CryMeARiver]

I think you're town.

Though triangle probably needs to die, I think (s)he is town.

I think greenknight has a high probability of being the remaining scum. Even a quick bandwagon analysis can yield that result I think.

[Starbuck]

I could definitely support a greenknight lynch. I thought maybe it was just us butting heads as town. At this point, though, there's been enough other stuff going on to keep focus off of him.

[greenknight]

Feeling that triangle's lack of effort today is characteristic of resigned scum.

In case I get killed here's my scum -> town list

Triangle
Starbuck
Zang
CMAR * (should die at lylo)
T-bone
Greyice

[greenknight]

I think you're town.

Though triangle probably needs to die, I think (s)he is town.

I think greenknight has a high probability of being the remaining scum. Even a quick bandwagon analysis can yield that result I think.

Nice complete lack of analysis or case here. Do not let this guy weasel out of being lynched over his claim if it gets to lylo, it's literally the only thing protecting him from being bandwagoned right now

[triangle123]

How is that witholding reads though?

I meant that you barely posted reads.

This seems incredibly generic for day 4.

What more can you really have in a townread in most cases? It's not like I think you guys are super-duper-confirmed-townies by any means, you're just decently strong town reads because you seem to be playing genuinely. The only things that pinged my scumdar about you two was GK's Day 1 play and Starbuck's claim, but the rest of your actions seemed fine and townie to me. Furthermore, Starbuck's interactions with the dead scum players seem indicative of towniness to me, and your interactions with them just seem about null so I relied on other facets of your play to make my read.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 4.3 - As of post 906

Starbuck (2) - Zang, GreyICE
Zang (1) - triangle123
triangle123 (2) - Greenknight, Starbuck

Not Voting (2) - T-Bone, CryMeARiver

The Current deadline is August 24, 2012 at 10:00am EDT. Countdown is (expired on 2012-08-24 10:00:00).

With 7 active votes - 4 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - All currently good.

Mod Notes - CryMeARiver's previous prod has been rescinded due to his V/LA status.

[GreyICE]

I could definitely support a greenknight lynch. I thought maybe it was just us butting heads as town. At this point, though, there's been enough other stuff going on to keep focus off of him.

Who wouldn't you support a lynch on, out of curiousity?

Because you have expressed support for pretty much every bandwagon to come down the pipes.

I would have expected town-Starbuck to be a tad less... promiscuous.

[Starbuck]

Because there are sound reasons for each person. Today, the lynch should be on either green, triangle, or Zang. I would not support a lynch on yourself, CMAR or T-Bone.

[GreyICE]

It could definitely be T-Bone and if it is, then he's got all of us fooled. It could also be triangle. Grey could definitely be a contender as well, especially for the jump off of the Acosmist lynch.

Mmmmm

I see

[Starbuck]

Could, key word.

Right now, I think we need to look into those that haven't done much of anything since Day 1.

[GreyICE]

Oookay.

So, who do you actually have a town read on?

[Starbuck]

T-Bone, CMAR. I'm going back and forth with you because of my history with you.

[greenknight]

What more can you really have in a townread in most cases? It's not like I think you guys are super-duper-confirmed-townies by any means, you're just decently strong town reads because you seem to be playing genuinely. The only things that pinged my scumdar about you two was GK's Day 1 play and Starbuck's claim, but the rest of your actions seemed fine and townie to me. Furthermore, Starbuck's interactions with the dead scum players seem indicative of towniness to me, and your interactions with them just seem about null so I relied on other facets of your play to make my read.

Almost half of the players in this game are dead so I expect townreads to be based on interactions with flipped players at this point. If my play is genuine scumhunting then how can my interactions with the dead scum be null?

[triangle123]

Because I don't see your interactions with them being particularly incriminating nor encouraging. What does that have to do with my belief that you are genuinely attempting to catch scum?

[greenknight]

Also, starbuck says that Grey and T-bone could be scum at the start of day, and switches the scumreads to Zang and myself after no one expresses suspicion of T-bone/grey but someone else attacks Zang/me. Hmm indeed.

Funny thing is, whoever's scum here still doesn't dare to commit to an attack on me...

pedit @ triangle: Well how can you be (reasonably) confident that I'm genuinely scumhunting, if you aren't sure what to make of my interactions with the known scum? I mean, there's quite a lot of scumhunting interaction on my part with Acos on day 3.

[CryMeARiver]

Greenknight has a terrible reaction.

Vote: Greenknight

[Starbuck]

Quite a lot of scumhunting on Day 3 to make up for the rest of the game where you just tunneled on me?

[greenknight]

Quite a lot of scumhunting on Day 3 to make up for the rest of the game where you just tunneled on me?

If my play is your definition of tunnelling, you're equally guilty of it.

[T-Bone]

I'm not voting GK today. He remains my strongest town read.

[Zang]

Limited Access for next two Weeks

I'll post when I can.

I have a strong town read on greenknight and am not going to vote him. The only worse lynch would be one on greyice.

How is that witholding reads though?

I meant that you barely posted reads.

Not voting is not the same thing

[triangle123]

Well how can you be (reasonably) confident that I'm genuinely scumhunting, if you aren't sure what to make of my interactions with the known scum?

Genuinely scumhunting is not always the same thing as accurately scumhunting.

Not voting is not the same thing

I know it isn't. That's why I stated it wasn't, and that's why I'm not accusing you of being scum because of not voting.

[GreyICE]

Oh come on, lets just ride one wagon home already.

We gain nothing by this stupid holding pattern. Nothing. If you want Starbuck alive in 3-player LyLo, give a damn good reason in your next post.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Activity check - everyone is currently good.

Zang's V/LA is noted.

Deadline reminder - deadline arrives in (expired on 2012-08-24 10:00:00).

[Starbuck]

Grey, you've been doing the same thing that I have. Not being sure of who could be our scum. You've done it every day by hopping around on almost everyone vote wise.

Right now, connections are all we have.