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Agreed. Perhaps we need to take a better look at who fliped and why. Who did they suspect? Who do the kills draw attention to or away from. At the very least, 5 players gives each and every townie a 50/50 shot at nailing the correct choice. Decent odds.

Thanks for the heads up.

Kinda of quiet in here.....

maybe the scum are hiding out hoping to get a no lynch since they can not get a quick lynch. I might be wrong but a no lynch would also give them the win so maybe thats their back up plan.

@Ree- If you look at me you can see that I am as townie as one can be. I have done everything a good townie I could . But I welcome you to investigate me. Go through my ISO as much as you want..I believe once you do that you will see Im on the town side.

The question is why they killed PB was NK...

1) As Nom theorized ..that they didi not think that PB would be lynched on day 3 and so they killed someone else
2) They didnt care who they killed bc they were over confidence in their ability to lynch the believed that could lynch anyone and win the game
3) They were trying to frame somebody with the NK

edit ...
so they killed PB

In post 903, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Kinda of quiet in here.....

maybe the scum are hiding out hoping to get a no lynch since they can not get a quick lynch. I might be wrong but a no lynch would also give them the win so maybe thats their back up plan.

@Ree- If you look at me you can see that I am as townie as one can be. I have done everything a good townie I could . But I welcome you to investigate me. Go through my ISO as much as you want..I believe once you do that you will see Im on the town side.

Personally, I'm being quiet because I'm reviewing the game, which takes time. How is your review going? I can see why you might not bother, since you already know who the scum are.

Klick ought to let us know what he thinks of the game.

IfI was right about Nom, I should be dead But killing me would point to Nom...

I so wanted to be right but I'm probably not...

Still thinking...

@ Nom if that is what you are doing than thats fine..but just bc I post doesnt mean I have not been doing the same thing. Of course i doubt you are looking over the ISO since you you are convinced scum ... Atleast however I am willing look for evidence for people guilt instead of claiming someone is scum and than finding evidence to fit a narrow view point. You did this with 2Pac. Look what that got us. Your evidence I am scum , is not that PB flipped town but that the mere fact he was killed. I just find this weak evidence at best. While I disagree with Ree conclusion I am probably scum at least he is trying to use some rational logic.

I find it a bit hard to figure out roles since one players such a Regs seems really scummy while PB did not have that scummy feel. Not use to the having so many replacement. not quite sure how to read a player in that situation.

I've been thinking about Peabody's death. Why is he dead.

But maybe we are asking the wrong question. It is not why Peabody is dead. Maybe it's all about .

Two of us are alive because they are scum. The other three are alive because:
a)they have townreads on scum
b)they are not a real threat.
c)their death would be incriminating.

I tend to think I am alive because in fact, I can't make acussations, since my reads were all wrong.

In the other hand, Ree is the IC here. So either his death is incriminating, in which case Nom would be scum, or he is scum. Because he is a threat for scum, as the pro townie.

And I had a townread on him, but now I must reevaluate every read I had. So I'm not sure.


@Everyone
Why do you think you are alive?

The only reason I could think that I am alive is that the scum think i am a good lynch target......

I think Ree is more than likely town. I guess he could be scum but its unlikely......I think it possible that Ree is alive bc Nom is scum and killing Ree would incriminate him. Cant say that this is the case but at this point i have to look at the possibility. Since I know I am town and Ree is most likely town that only leaves Satan, Nom and Klick as possible scum in my opinion.

Klick, you still there? It's been three days, buddy.

Where are you in your reads Nom?

I'm trying to do a thorough reread, because I'm not sure. Fuzzy, Satan, and Ranawey have all been suspiciously cautious in their behavior, while you've been aggressive, but all three people you were aggressively pushing were town, which is suspiciously worse than simply random, especially for someone who claims to be good at the game. Logically if someone who knew what they were doing was scum they shouldn't have killed Peabody, but your reaction at the start of day (being shocked you were alive, not shocked Peabody was dead) suggests maybe you don't know what you're doing.

I really wish Peabody hadn't quickhammered and we had more info from Klick's slot.

Nom- Im still not following your logic....you make it sound like was the only bad NK and that that the scum are dumb bc they picked PB for the night kill. I see two possibility....one is that you are tunneling your views like you did with 2Pac or that you are scum trying to frame somebody with the PB night kill. As far as being As far as being cautious or aggressive these seem more like playing style rather than any indication of guilt.

@ Nom and Ree- I think Satan asked a kinda interesting question about why you think you may be alive. I would be interested in your opinions on the question if you dont mind.

I dont want to go into details but I think Klick might be MIA.....I cant go into detail bc of being possible Modkilled but i have reasons to believe this.

Also since we are at LYLO wouldn't we be cautious anyways , so that PB would not be an automatic lynch candidate....like you are trying to make it seems. I am concern about you motivation for trying to make it seem like PB was a mistake for the scum since it is seems like you are pushing the PB night kill to be bad as excuse to set me up to be lynched.

It was an odd choice.

Klick posted today @2:34pm according to his view user's posts in his profile.

The thing is, if I were scum I wouldn't have needed to frame anybody with the Peabody kill. I could have killed somebody else, and then me and my scumbuddy could have pushed hard that Peabody deserved to be lynched for what he'd done, because in fact he did. We'd only have to persuade one of the townies, and we'd have the truth on our side - Peabody's quicklynch was, in fact, scummy as hell. That strategy would have been more or less a sure thing, no need to frame anybody.

When I was thinking about the game overnight, I figured that if Peabody was town we'd already lost, so I mostly tried to figure out who his scumbuddy would be. I never dreamed the mafia would rescue us from his misplay by killing him themselves.

@ nom so how does that make me scum.....You seem to be pushing very hard for me being scum with the PB NK. This feel like bad rationale or maybe even scummy.

In post 918, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ nom so how does that make me scum.....You seem to be pushing very hard for me being scum with the PB NK. This feel like bad rationale or maybe even scummy.

It makes you and Satan scum because you have less experience with the game than Ree and Klick, and so you would be less likely to come up with the sure thing strategy that would require you not to kill Peabody.

I don't feel that I'm "pushing very hard" on this, or at least I wasn't. I mentioned it once, and then explained my position further when you pressed me. Your paranoid overreaction sort of makes me think I've hit the target.

Yes I overacted....but it was out of frustration. You tend to tunnel. Alos I was worried that Ree. Satan , or klick would blindly follow your logic without followit totally through. I dont want to be mislynched like 2Pac was.

this is where Noms logic has holes.

1) Nom joined a few months before me, if we follow his logic than it posible that he could of made the same mistake.
2) he assumes that bc someone is new they are not smart enough to see such an obvious possibilities as a Pb lynch. Just bc someone is new does not mean they dont understand pyscology or stratergy.
3)his theory only takes in tha account tnat noobs would make a mistake and that more expierence players are not orones to mistake
4) assumes that I am a comp, ete noob and I have no expierence at all
5) assumes that the scum killed Pb bc of poor straterby as opposed ti having otber motivations
6)assumes that the PB kill was the only posibly bad night kill
7) forgets the fact since we are at Lylo that if Pb was alive he would not be the only lynching canidates


for now I am going to drop the matter. I think I will investigate the possibility that Klick went Mia on purpose

In post 921, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Yes I overacted....but it was out of frustration. You tend to tunnel. Alos I was worried that Ree. Satan , or klick would blindly follow your logic without followit totally through. I dont want to be mislynched like 2Pac was.

this is where Noms logic has holes.

1) Nom joined a few months before me, if we follow his logic than it posible that he could of made the same mistake.
2) he assumes that bc someone is new they are not smart enough to see such an obvious possibilities as a Pb lynch. Just bc someone is new does not mean they dont understand pyscology or stratergy.
3)his theory only takes in tha account tnat noobs would make a mistake and that more expierence players are not orones to mistake
4) assumes that I am a comp, ete noob and I have no expierence at all
5) assumes that the scum killed Pb bc of poor straterby as opposed ti having otber motivations
6)assumes that the PB kill was the only posibly bad night kill
7) forgets the fact since we are at Lylo that if Pb was alive he would not be the only lynching canidates


for now I am going to drop the matter. I think I will investigate the possibility that Klick went Mia on purpose

You're frustrated because you don't want to recognize that you had the game in the palm of your hand and let it slip away.

1)I've been on the site four times as long as you. And it's plainly obvious that I realize letting Peabody live would have meant a scumwin, since I'm the one who brought it up.
2)It's not necessarily a matter of intelligence but rather a matter of playskill, which is a combination of intelligence and familiarity with the mechanics and familiarity with how scum and town react in various situations. Newbies are less familiar with the latter two. That's not a knock on them, everybody's new at some point, and the whole point of the newbie-game is to get them familiar with the game.
3)In fact I was starting to wonder if Mr. Ree's demonstrated low playskill might make it point to him, but with the way you're freaking out I'm thinking not.
4)I just figure that you and Satan are less experienced than me, Mr. Ree, and Klick. Which is why you're playing as newbies, right?
5)If you have a chance to win the game for sure, and you pass it up for "other motivations", that's poor strategy.
6)Any other nightkill would have won the game.
7)This just isn't true. Even Peabody expected to be lynched if Skelda came up town.

1) You joined in Jan of 2013 , I joined in Aug 2013 ...that is 7 months. that is not 4x the time. That if we are going on just the time we played on the site. Not the fact I only claim I am more a nob to the site than the game itself. I have always claimed that I have played this game before but never really had the time or the attention to get good at it. Your whole case against me is merely based on Im a noob ( and since killling PB was a noob move )thus I must be scum .

2) What this is just the notion that since it is not the move you would not make or maybe just saying you wouldnt make ( I dont know ) than the person is a noob or scum.) Just like just bc Ree did not play the way thought an Ic should play you automatically labeled him a bad player/You did the same thing with 2Pac. People play the way you think they should or they are bad players or even scum...thats atleast what I have gathered from your post

3) After you called Rees a bad player and started to finger him you changed your mind. Seems like you follow whatever is convenient to your beliefs and make the facts fit those beliefs. How Im I freaking out. I am making calm rationale arguement against your statement. I am not sure how I am freaking out

4) Once again the PB Nk has to be a noobie mistake,,, there is no other possibilities. Since its a noobie mistake than that automatically make me and Satan scum.

5) Yes , but you are amusing that there is only one way to win the game..... Im not going say that leaving PB alive might have been the easiest lynch but there are different possibilities and factors that the scum might of factored in and thought that another night kill might of given them a better chance. Yes might be right and killing PB was a nob mistake but I can not see how you can sit there and say it was the only real move the scum could make. As far as we know we might be reacting the exact way they want us too. Only the scum knows what they wee thinking when they killed PB.

6) Once again my theory is the only correct one reply. This seems to be your only defense for my rebuttal of your accusations against me.

Seems like you are stuck in your own reality distortion field.

It is 4x the time, actually. You joined in August, 2 months ago, I joined in January, 9 months ago. 2 x 4 = 8. I gave you the extra month because I was feeling generous.