Mini 1567 - Such Unusual Pretermen... ...Evil Too!
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Vote Count Thirty-Seven: Meet me 'n'eaven
Cho (3)- LowerCase, Jul, Belisarius
Nobody Special (3) - FormerFish, MTD, Cho
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Not Voting: Kagami, LoudMouthLee
With Nine alive, it is Five to lynch
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The flavour of the kills in the first post are relevant.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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What else do you supposed it does, turns Ray Liotta into a centaur?
I'm really uncomfortable having this transformer in my hands. I have tried to think what is the best course of action with it. The only one who has been "transformed" by it is NS who I explicitly don't trust. So I have five options: 1) use it on someone that I think is town. This could be good and it transforms them into goodness. It could be bad and transform them into badness. It's a risk. 2) use it on someone I think is scum. Same risks as using it on someone I think is town. 3) use it on myself. Since I am already transformed, I don't know if it will put me back to vanilla or if it will do something else. At least I would know what it does. With all 3 of these choices, I would have to pass it. And there is a whole other thought process about that. 4) I could pass it and not use it. This is probably the least likely because then I am just passing the buck to someone else to figure it out. Or 5) I could not use it at all.
I am open to suggestions but ultimately I will make the final decision and won't reveal what I am doing before the night.
@LML - I agree with your suspects list but don't like the idea of lining up lynches in general. A lot can change between now and then. It will also make people lazy and either they won't scum hunt or be resigned to their fate and quit trying if they are in fact town.
I am open to suggestions but ultimately I will make the final decision and won't reveal what I am doing before the night.
@LML - I agree with your suspects list but don't like the idea of lining up lynches in general. A lot can change between now and then. It will also make people lazy and either they won't scum hunt or be resigned to their fate and quit trying if they are in fact town.
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You could use it on a dead Townie.
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....or dead scum, but I think that's a bad idea, for what should be obvious reasons.
As far as I'm aware, alignment changing mechanics are considered bastard unless it is known that they might possibly exist beforehand.
Outside of that, there is only so much negative utility a transformer could bestow on a Vanilla (the only serious problem would be if it made someone suicidal). All in all, I don't think the transformer could possibly be all that dangerous.
Outside of that, there is only so much negative utility a transformer could bestow on a Vanilla (the only serious problem would be if it made someone suicidal). All in all, I don't think the transformer could possibly be all that dangerous.
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Well, it "transforms" -- and the only meaningful way to transform a dead person is to make them alive. That's the only thing I can think of.
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I can imagine lots of things it might do to dead people. Revival seems very unlikely, since that would be completely broken. Treestumping/restless spiriting don't seem as helpful as making a new PR, and there's a very good chance it simply does nothing, or transforms the dead into corpses of their characters.
If you find NS suspicious, then the obvious best thing to do is to zap a VT so that we can confirm NS's claim. Transforming the dead seems like a bad idea.
If you find NS suspicious, then the obvious best thing to do is to zap a VT so that we can confirm NS's claim. Transforming the dead seems like a bad idea.
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Unless he didn't know what it does, and nothing says that he knows now. Nothing he has said can be proven and all adds to the massive amounts of Wifom that we are facing. I have no idea what my ability does, only that it changes peoples roles. His could be much of the same but with negative consequences.
Imo, there isn't really that much question about the positive utility of the role. The only possibility for WIFOM is if NS is scum and I doubt he is. We have lots of confirmed information about the transforming roles.
Either way, the best thing we are looking at with targeting dead people is probably some kind of treestump or restless spirit. Maybe revival, more likely nothing. Imo, zapping a town-read and passing to a different town-read is the optimal usage for the ability.
Either way, the best thing we are looking at with targeting dead people is probably some kind of treestump or restless spirit. Maybe revival, more likely nothing. Imo, zapping a town-read and passing to a different town-read is the optimal usage for the ability.
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I could say the exact same thing about you and your ability.In post 918, Formerfish wrote:Unless he didn't know what it does, and nothing says that he knows now. Nothing he has said can be proven and all adds to the massive amounts of Wifom that we are facing. I have no idea what my ability does, only that it changes peoples roles. His could be much of the same but with negative consequences.
Just sayin.
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Something is niggling at me about NS and his claims so far, I'm just having trouble wrapping my head all the way around what it is and how best to verbalize it. Something seems very off about the roles and and the way he has used them.
Pedit- except two people have come forward to admit to being transformed as a result of my actions. You on the other hand only have the transmission of a dohickey.
Pedit- except two people have come forward to admit to being transformed as a result of my actions. You on the other hand only have the transmission of a dohickey.
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I'm going to giggle my nuts off if both NS and Fish wind up being town.
I think that's reasonably likely. I hate walls, but I'll make one to summarize what I've said so far regarding this and add a couple more points:In post 922, Belisarius wrote:I'm going to giggle my nuts off if both NS and Fish wind up being town.
Spoiler: NS
Spoiler: FF
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