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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:39 am
by Beep! Beep!
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:MoS is significantly suckier than I thought he was.
You should have known.

vote: Cogito Ergo Sum

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:50 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
I should have known him to be significantly suckier than I thought he was? But if I knew, then I wouldn't have thought he was that sucky, I would've thought him to be as sucky as he is(ie. suckier). So that's an impossibility, my good sir.

And what's with the "should"? Either I did know and was making it up on account of me being scum or I didn't know(as town or otherwise). What I
should
know, is not relevant.

More importantly, why do you think I should've known? To my knowledge, MoS has never acted so suckily in any of the games I've been in and isn't it completely to natural to assume a certain level of intellectual maturity when it comes to a player as experienced as MoS?

Also, I will note that I went after Zindaras and Yosarian2 in Jungle Republic over the same type of situation and was right about both of them.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:06 pm
by Elmo
Beep: Why did you vote MoS in post 885?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:52 pm
by Mastermind of Sin
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I should have known him to be significantly suckier than I thought he was? But if I knew, then I wouldn't have thought he was that sucky, I would've thought him to be as sucky as he is(ie. suckier). So that's an impossibility, my good sir.

And what's with the "should"? Either I did know and was making it up on account of me being scum or I didn't know(as town or otherwise). What I
should
know, is not relevant.

More importantly, why do you think I should've known? To my knowledge, MoS has never acted so suckily in any of the games I've been in and isn't it completely to natural to assume a certain level of intellectual maturity when it comes to a player as experienced as MoS?

Also, I will note that I went after Zindaras and Yosarian2 in Jungle Republic over the same type of situation and was right about both of them.
*shrug* The last couple months have been rather sub-par for me, for obvious reasons (the fact that RL and MS issues have caused me to begin a gradual exit from Mafiascum altogether: I haven't signed up for a new game in almost 2 months, with the exception of Newbie 567).

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:37 pm
by Cogito Ergo Sum
I was not aware of that.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:54 pm
by Mastermind of Sin
Well now you know. I had 23 games at the beginning of January (20 playing and 3 modded). Now I have 7 games (6 playing and 1 modding). That's how much I've cut back, and it's only going to go down from there.

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:30 am
by Mastermind of Sin
Out of town until Tuesday night/Wednesday

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:59 am
by Rishi
Elmo wrote:Beep: Why did you vote MoS in post 885?
I also want to know what the point of voting CES was when his vote was already on CES.

Also, these Nibbler avatars are driving me crazy.

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:12 am
by skitzer
Oh that's what he's called. Thanks. I've been looking for a picture.

Also wanting to here from beep.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:32 pm
by Mastermind of Sin
*bump* Where is everyone?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:03 am
by Beep! Beep!
Rishi wrote:
Elmo wrote:Beep: Why did you vote MoS in post 885?
I also want to know what the point of voting CES was when his vote was already on CES.

Also, these Nibbler avatars are driving me crazy.
I answered why I voted MoS. Why ask me the same question twice? You'll get the same answer.

I wasn't "already voting CES" I was voting MoS when I changed my vote to CES on account of his case on MoS which sounded good on the surface, but as MoS pointed out, was full of krapp.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:54 pm
by Cogito Ergo Sum
And then you voted me again at the top of this page, Beep! Beep!.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:10 am
by Rishi
Yeah... that's correct. Look at your own posts, Beep. You voted CES twice.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:58 am
by Beep! Beep!
Rishi wrote:Yeah... that's correct. Look at your own posts, Beep. You voted CES twice.
Twice in row? Yeah, I guess I did, I didn't realize.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:05 am
by Rishi
Beep! Beep! wrote:
Rishi wrote:Yeah... that's correct. Look at your own posts, Beep. You voted CES twice.
Twice in row? Yeah, I guess I did, I didn't realize.
So, simple inattentiveness or do you simply not care whether we lynch CES or MoS, as long as it's one of them?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:13 am
by Beep! Beep!
Rishi wrote:
Beep! Beep! wrote:
Rishi wrote:Yeah... that's correct. Look at your own posts, Beep. You voted CES twice.
Twice in row? Yeah, I guess I did, I didn't realize.
So, simple inattentiveness or do you simply not care whether we lynch CES or MoS, as long as it's one of them?
How do you draw such the second conclusion from my voting the same player twice within a few posts?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:15 am
by Beep! Beep!
I should add, if my voting the same player twice is the biggest and hottest button in this game, we've run out of leads, and maybe we should put more effort into the game, myself included.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:21 am
by Rishi
Beep! Beep! wrote:
Rishi wrote:
Beep! Beep! wrote:
Rishi wrote:Yeah... that's correct. Look at your own posts, Beep. You voted CES twice.
Twice in row? Yeah, I guess I did, I didn't realize.
So, simple inattentiveness or do you simply not care whether we lynch CES or MoS, as long as it's one of them?
How do you draw such the second conclusion from my voting the same player twice within a few posts?
It's not so much what you did, but the way that you're responding to the questions. You're deflecting. You're not giving a straight answer and turning things back on me. I find that more telling than the double vote.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:10 am
by Mastermind of Sin
Ironically, Rishi, the think that struck me the most was
your
response to Beep! Beep!

First off, your second conclusion really only makes sense if Beep is scum, so why would she admit to it in the first place? I don't see the point in you asking that question except as what I like to call the "implication tactic". It seems more like you're implying that the second conclusion is the truth, so that it makes Beep look worse, but you're phrasing it as a question instead of an accusation so that it looks better on you. It's a great tactic, I like to use it a lot.

Secondly, how did you draw such a conclusion from her response in the first place?

Beep! Beep!, why are you voting CES? What about his case makes you think that he's scum rather than just wrong?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:21 am
by Elmo
Beep, I still want an explanation for your extremely quick vote on MoS and then subsequent extremely quick U-turn for no apparent reason. I also agree with Rishi.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:52 am
by Rishi
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Ironically, Rishi, the think that struck me the most was
your
response to Beep! Beep!

First off, your second conclusion really only makes sense if Beep is scum, so why would she admit to it in the first place? I don't see the point in you asking that question except as what I like to call the "implication tactic". It seems more like you're implying that the second conclusion is the truth, so that it makes Beep look worse, but you're phrasing it as a question instead of an accusation so that it looks better on you. It's a great tactic, I like to use it a lot.

Secondly, how did you draw such a conclusion from her response in the first place?
The reason that I came to that second conclusion is that I felt that you and CES are probably not scum together (the interaction between to seems more than distancing, IMHO). So, when Beep! voted for CES the second time, thinking her vote was still on you, it seemed odd. It seems to me that deciding that CES was scum instead of you was a fairly radical shift in viewpoint. And the fact that she forgot her vote was not on you? That means she sees both of you as interchangeable. I think scum would be more likely to have that viewpoint than town.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:54 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
That doesn't make any less weird/wrong/scummy that you phrased it as a question.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:01 am
by Beep! Beep!
A demonstration is needed.

unvote, vote: Rishi

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:01 am
by Beep! Beep!
vote: Rishi

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:07 am
by Beep! Beep!
Yes, MoS, CES could be wrong, but I don't like the way he came out of the barn running with it, trying to control the town's agenda to some degree, and set the tone for the day, while being incorrect.

But I think Rishi is purposely trying to distract with non-issues. I am not sure what his objective is.

So I want to give him something to think about:

vote: Rishi