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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:47 am
by acryon
In post 898, BuJaber wrote:@Icon - Nobody cares what acryon says now that he put us in this situation.
Also this. I don't think responses from me are changing anyone's opinion. Turns out Gladiate is a pretty polarizing action.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:49 am
by Mathdino
Guys, not gonna lie, what's going on here is a classic case of town implosion

It's much more likely everyone's scumspects are just wrong

Lynch outside of BuJaber, Beefster, Iconeum, even acryon tomorrow

Otherwise we've wasted 2 full days. Let acryon eat a vig but policy/spite lynching him ruins VCA

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:50 am
by Mathdino
Like, realise who's been fighting all this time

And then realise who's taken a step back that hasn't really baited any suspicion

Icon and i got put in this position by being confrontational

So did acryon, who easily could've gladiators 2 town lurkers

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:52 am
by Mathdino
Bujaberscum correct play is to no lynch to not draw Icon ire

Iconscum correct play is to not AtE self vote and honestly to just call for my lynch using his towncred/fakeclaim

Acryon scum correct play was to not give us a choice that would result in no lynch

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:54 am
by Mathdino
they're one of the following options:

A. Shit town
B. Shit scum
C. WIFOMing scum

(C) doesn't happen as often as you'd like, and i'm not reading that in these three

so if the choice is between assuming stupidity on the part of someone who knows everyone's alignments
or assuming stupidity on the part of MS towns that don't know shit about anything and are often wrong about 100% of the game

i will choose assuming shit town every time

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:55 am
by Mathdino
Town cohesion was ripped apart the second mastina started pushing me.

Everyone else let that happen.

Suspect the people who made no effort to increase town cohesion (but also weren't the driving fucking forces in stirring up maximum chaos).

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:00 am
by Iconeum
I see good advice when I see it.
Will take a step back, calm down, and reevaluate tomorrow.

Do NOT lynch me or MD overnight with plenty of time till deadline.

I'm sure we can get our shit back together.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:06 am
by Mathdino
Without elaborating on speculation on reads or night actions, I would like everyone to answer:

Who is more predictable when it comes to their protection night action?
A. Mathdino
B. mastina


Whoever is more predictable should be the one that protects Iconeum. The other does their best elsewhere.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:45 am
by Momrangal
In post 830, Carrot and Stick wrote:
In post 735, Momrangal wrote:And I'm not gonna do a damn thing until we get an answer
And thus you do nothing at a time where town absolutely would be doing something.
Ok.

Lynch me tomorrow then

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:48 am
by Momrangal
In post 771, the worst wrote:Mom could you quote my post which confused you? I might have derped on terminology maybe but I think we're on a different page :P
I am not sure if it was you but somebody said that both math and Icon were being largely town read but I don't see that as the case at all

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:52 am
by Momrangal
VOTE: No lynch

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:52 am
by Mathdino
The funny thing is even mastina said that Icon and I were being largely townread, when she was largely solely responsible for me losing all my towncred.

To reiterate, the players that should be looked at tomorrow and are guilty of passively not helping town cohesion:
{Almost50, IB, Kthx, Momra, Paradox}

The players that you guys need to stop fighting because scum is just watching this town burn:
{acryon, Beefster, Bujaber, Iconeum, mastina}

A weird in-between:
{Not_Mafia, the worst}

N_M can live, his lack of tunneling me at his best opportunity was completely out of character for scum-him.
TW I'm townreading but on a very holistic big picture level, I'll admit his play has been concerning.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:01 am
by Momrangal
Mmmm...

So far the fights were

Me/Buj
Math/mastin
Math/IB

ico only got into a fight because of Crayon and Crayon gladiators because he was being ran up.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:06 am
by Momrangal
I'll be honest I really lost the desire to play and just really want to wait till D2 because I hate having my voting freedom being took away from me.

If i did decide to choose between Ico and Dino I would be leaning Ico because of his early confidence that he wasn't going to get lynched over Dino.

Until he had gotten gladiated he was a non-presence in this game so I do not understand how he would have been a powerful player later on

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:14 am
by BuJaber
So MD you think D2 lynch should be one of {A50, IB, Kthx, Mom, Paradox}?

Actually I'd like acryon, Icon, and Mastina also to say who they'd lynch day 2. Doesn't look like all 4 are gonna live to see D2.

Obviously any potential flips might change your opinion but I figure this is still helpful.

Frankly though I'm not sure I'd be able to townread Icon anymore unless acryon flips scum or all the lurkers flip town. Because it isn't a good move for scum acryon to gladiate icon and md but it makes even less for scum acryon to gladiate a scum partner.

Like I am not against no lynch here as a policy but the problem is if Icon is scum and we lynch him we don't need to policy vig/lynch acryon. Acryon would be like an Innocent child the rest of the game.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:19 am
by Mathdino
Your game would be improved by 20% if you just stopped scumreading Iconeum.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:21 am
by acryon
In post 914, BuJaber wrote: Actually I'd like acryon, Icon, and Mastina also to say who they'd lynch day 2. Doesn't look like all 4 are gonna live to see D2.
Beefster.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:23 am
by BuJaber
Lol whatever I tried.

I'm happy at least that people are paying attention to the lurker bloc.

VOTE: no lynch

Btw what does gamma's post mean? Because I understood it as there has to be a majority voting no lynch AND there has to be at least one vote on MD/Icon for it to be a no lynch. Otherwise it'll be determined randomly.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:25 am
by BuJaber
Nvm I read it again. Majority no lynch guarantees no lynch.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:36 am
by Mathdino
Guys answer the goddamn mastina/me question before you hammer a No Lynch.


Who has a more predictable night action, me or mastina?


In the case of someone hammering before mastina and I work this out, I volunteer to be on Iconeum.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:39 am
by Not_Mafia
Mastgina

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:44 am
by Momrangal
In post 920, Not_Mafia wrote:Mastgina

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
Votecount 1.37(0) Mathdino:
(4) Iconeum: TheGoldenParadox, Beefster, Not_Mafia, acryon

(6) No Lynch: InfernoBrafin, the worst, kthxbye, Carrot and Stick, Momrangal, , BuJaber
(3) Not Voting: Almost50, Mathdino, Iconeum

(expired on 2018-03-07 16:00:00)

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:55 am
by BuJaber
I don't understand the question MD.

Predictable for whom?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:55 am
by Not_Mafia
I can't believe we're actually taking no lynch seriously