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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:42 am
by Morality
Kokichi and Dunn are both near mechanically cleared as town.

Unah is a soul read that I even have non soul explanation for.

Azurit, I’ve explained, however theirs isn’t the strongest.

SIV entire process is anti scum.

And I agree with TW that they are obv town. I gave an explanation earlier about why I see TW as town through vote analysis a show well, wth Tchill hopping off of Dunn after TW joined the Performer wagon, and why that doesn’t make sense coming from ScumWorst.

Otter/Ruby are really the only other options.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:43 am
by Morality
In post 899, Kokichi Oma wrote:Its scum. I'm not claiming. It's stupid and helps scum. We lynch siv
Sivs conf town, get outta here

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:44 am
by Morality
Only scum would think it’s bad right now. You scum Kokichi? Did I town read you incorrectly? Because i will lynch kokichi before I lynch SIV 10/10 tines.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 am
by Morality
Kokichi, were you setting up a fake claim and now afraid that i might be able to counter your claim?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 am
by Morality
VOTE: Kokichi

Kokichi—>Ruby—>Otter is the Lynch path.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:48 am
by Morality
If you are trying to scum case SIV, you best be able to explain why.

Because I can explain why he isn’t, and I have. Saying “this is scum” is not. If anything that’s more reasoning to not kill him if that’s all you got.

Because “not helping town” “not doing anything of note” isn’t scummy. It’s NAI. People just don’t like that. Gotta look through that. SIV is playing from a town perspective.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:50 am
by Morality
If you want SIV, you best be able to explain why, because I can go on for around 40 pages explaining why I see hem from a town perspective.

VOTE: Ruby

I’ve already explained why Kokichi is town. That was a personal vote cuz i got heated.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:56 am
by Morality
Here’s the thing.

Ruby, if town, is a tracker, and that would suck to lose as it could be helpful.

But the risk of Ruby being scum and coasting is too much to be worth it. It just ends up in a giant 1v1 somewhere, likely a 50/5” chance, and that is something that I just don’t see as beneficial for town. At this point, the power isn’t necessarily needed. It can help, but it can wreck us more than anything.

Ruby had no reason to claim as townTracker yesterday. Only Scum did. Tchill lynch was happening. That was obvious. It was hard bus cred. Tchill knows how to gambit. Even if it wasn’t Tchill’s idea, he’d be all for it if Ruby was comfortable with it.

The only reason Tracker would claim there would be so everyone knows, “Oh, Ruby is a tracker!”. This aimlessly outs them. And then a no kill happens. That could easily happen so that a potential doctor would have targeted ScumRuby, who claimed before the night, and Ruby would get conf town status, AND outed a protective as well.

This is the EXACT reason we need to mass claim here and now.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:58 am
by Morality
Ruby was literally the only PR claimed.

A protective role would have targeted them. The no kill was a smart move in this scenario as a scum who claimed Tracker.

they also get the “scum would be afraid of the Tracker” to hide behind, and further solidify ScumRuby’s chance at coasting through the game.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:59 am
by Morality
In post 899, Kokichi Oma wrote:Its scum. I'm not claiming. It's stupid and helps scum. We lynch siv
People seriously need to get over this mindset, though.

Massclaiming has helped me solve so many games on Day 2.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:10 am
by Kokichi Oma
Dodnt you say I was conf town then you vote me? Lol

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:24 am
by Morality
In post 910, Kokichi Oma wrote:Dodnt you say I was conf town then you vote me? Lol
Yeah, I said it was a personal thing. :lol:

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:26 am
by Morality
In post 906, Morality wrote:If you want SIV, you best be able to explain why, because I can go on for around 40 pages explaining why I see hem from a town perspective.

VOTE: Ruby

I’ve already explained why Kokichi is town. That was a personal vote cuz i got heated
.

Here.

Can we please not lynch SIV today? I don’t feel like I’m making it much longer in this game, and I’m really paranoid of Ruby coasting if I die.

You lot can all get SIV in one of the next days.

You can even get me in one of the next days if I’m still alive and you get paranoid of me.

I just want to make sure Ruby gets the stick

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:03 am
by UnaBombaH
Boon made me feel good in my private places with all that postage.. :oops:
I think I'll default to sheeping him at this point anyway, but as of now I'm not sure if Ruby should go today.. :?
(And if you do not die before D5 or something I'm gonna flip my shit and lose my nerve no matter how towny I think you are now! :lol:)

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:07 am
by Dunnstral
I'm not sure if odd-night rolecop + weak hider is enough investigative power or not. It might be.

My thinking is, mafia really can't afford to keep ruby alive because they have a chance to catch them, though. If other people start dying then that says something

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:12 am
by Kokichi Oma
I think we just ignore Morality

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:08 am
by the worst
In post 913, UnaBombaH wrote:Boon made me feel good in my private places with all that postage..
I think I'll default to sheeping him at this point anyway, but as of now I'm not sure if Ruby should go today..
seconded in the least creepy way I can second this

we should finish MasscLaIM Via YeLLinG aT PEOpLe UntIL THEir HEADS EXpLODe bc like if a doctor did target ruby last night we should push her lynch back to after LO and Koki to get extra shiny clears. if night actions do point to a nokill then we lynch her with fiyah. :]

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:08 am
by the worst
Una would you agree this is outside Mora's scum range?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 am
by Morality
I could go Otter today, if that makes people feel better, but I really think SIV makes sense as town.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:03 am
by Morality
Kokichi’s coming off a little weird right now, but Tchill and Performer being on them gives me pause.

But Kokichi’s posting today is very poor from my perspective.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:03 am
by the worst
I'd prolly go otter before Siv as well

Koki can always go either way

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:04 am
by Morality
@Unah - would it make sense to have Ruby track me? Which either forces ScumRuby to either 1v1 me or conftown me, or forces actual scum to kill one of us.

If I die, Ruby 100% should die tomorrow, do not bring that to right before lylo, get rid of that early.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:05 am
by the worst
Ruby: Tracker, Night 1 Tchill—>Maria, Unah—>Nowhere

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did we get any further w this?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:05 am
by Morality
Otter is VT.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 am
by Morality
Kokichi is obviously a PR, and if they claim, game can probably be solved.