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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:27 am
by eth0s
If egix flips MRB then draynth is conftown but 99% does anyway. If this flips MRB and draynth is alive day 2 then a real doctor (if it isnt draynth) NEEDS to claim on day 2 because a claim should not be accepted in mylo/lylo now.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:27 am
by eth0s
99% dies anyway**
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:31 am
by eth0s
In post 883, Draynth wrote: In post 828, eth0s wrote:If there's a doctor I think I know who it is. If there isn't then I think that person is going to fakeclaim it. I don't know how to approach this without potentially putting a doctor in the coffin so I'm just going to leave it at that.
I will say that veggie's play did not strike me at all as PR play. I don't see how anyone else would consider it to be PR play either. If I'm correct in assuming that then I think veggie would be a weird nightkill if we have a doctor. Of course more goes into a NK than hoping they are a PR but that is definitely going to be a high priority to any semi experienced player. And a lot of people in here seem to be pretty aware of things, at least at times.
What I'm saying is I think I am leaning on there not being a doctor even more than I previously was. And if I'm correct in that assessment then I also think faustiv may be a mislynch. But this line of thinking cannot take precedence over the individual scuminess of faustiv so I think I'm just going to have to take a risk here.
This post has aged well
You were the person lol. Other than picking it up from slights of context you gave it away in a certain post. I hope you're the real doctor but also RIP if you are
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:32 am
by Draynth
In post 900, eth0s wrote:If egix flips MRB then draynth is conftown but 99% does anyway. If this flips MRB and draynth is alive day 2 then a real doctor (if it isnt draynth) NEEDS to claim on day 2 because a claim should not be accepted in mylo/lylo now.
this is an autolose situation for scum btw
goon!Egix claims Doctor only to be CC'd by rb!Draynth.
rb!Draynth get's CC'd by __town_Doctor__
You have enough time to lynch all 3 of the above in any order
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:32 am
by Draynth
In post 902, eth0s wrote: In post 883, Draynth wrote: In post 828, eth0s wrote:If there's a doctor I think I know who it is. If there isn't then I think that person is going to fakeclaim it. I don't know how to approach this without potentially putting a doctor in the coffin so I'm just going to leave it at that.
I will say that veggie's play did not strike me at all as PR play. I don't see how anyone else would consider it to be PR play either. If I'm correct in assuming that then I think veggie would be a weird nightkill if we have a doctor. Of course more goes into a NK than hoping they are a PR but that is definitely going to be a high priority to any semi experienced player. And a lot of people in here seem to be pretty aware of things, at least at times.
What I'm saying is I think I am leaning on there not being a doctor even more than I previously was. And if I'm correct in that assessment then I also think faustiv may be a mislynch. But this line of thinking cannot take precedence over the individual scuminess of faustiv so I think I'm just going to have to take a risk here.
This post has aged well
You were the person lol. Other than picking it up from slights of context you gave it away in a certain post. I hope you're the real doctor but also RIP if you are
I knew don't worry
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:35 am
by Draynth
In post 903, Draynth wrote: In post 900, eth0s wrote:If egix flips MRB then draynth is conftown but 99% does anyway. If this flips MRB and draynth is alive day 2 then a real doctor (if it isnt draynth) NEEDS to claim on day 2 because a claim should not be accepted in mylo/lylo now.
this is an autolose situation for scum btw
goon!Egix claims Doctor only to be CC'd by rb!Draynth.
rb!Draynth get's CC'd by __town_Doctor__
You have enough time to lynch all 3 of the above in any order
I think I misread what you said
I interpreted it as if Egix flips as goon
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:39 am
by eth0s
Yeah. I'm saying if egix flips goon then you can also be a goon fake claiming a role that doesn't exist. Therefore there will be no cc.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:41 am
by eth0s
On the flip side if he's a goon you're really doc you could also be continuously roleblocked and left alive so that we suspect you as a fakeclaimer. I think this situation would've been less likely had you not claimed. I'm still not sure what compelled you to claim?
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:50 am
by eth0s
If he's a goon AND you're really doc** ffs lol
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:02 am
by Draynth
In post 907, eth0s wrote:On the flip side if he's a goon you're really doc you could also be continuously roleblocked and left alive so that we suspect you as a fakeclaimer. I think this situation would've been less likely had you not claimed. I'm still not sure what compelled you to claim?
I was excited
I figured it was already blindingly obvious given the tells + instant hammer
It was a mistake though
Also yeah I mentioned that possibility on the last page
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:04 am
by faüstiv
In post 820, eth0s wrote:Faustiv have you ever clearly answered why you defended nmsa the way you did day 1? When you were advocating for people to vote for me and saying that nmsa was town. Why did you do that
NMSA was my townread. I explain why I thought he was in post 485. I thought you were scum because I didn't like how Airan played and I didn't like how you were advocating for lynches on lynchable players. As I said, towards the end of D1 I began to townread you more, but I wanted to keep the pressure on your slot. Pressuring players is the best way to scumhunt.
In post 825, eth0s wrote:@faustiv
In post 667, faüstiv wrote:Egix is a player who, at best, is a nullread and at worst a scumread. I don't think Egix has ever been townread this entire game, yet there seems to be a resistance on this lynch and a resistance to put him at L1.
what do you see as resistance on the lynch? I feel as though there hasn't been much at all. Please answer this and
820
Egix wasn't townread by anyone, yet there didn't seem to be many people jumping on the BW and even if they did, they soon hopped back off. Compare that to NMSA and Airan's wagon and there was quite a bit of difference I thought.
In post 832, eth0s wrote: In post 610, faüstiv wrote:Ok so I think the teams are:
Egix/Dryanth
or
Geyde/eth0s
Feeling the former at the moment.
How did you progress from thinking my scumpartner would be draynth to this?
The Egix/Dryanth one was a POE one and realistically at the time I could see them being a team. Your teamread was due to Gedye's buddying and me being unsure on both of you at the time; you with your hammer on NMSA on D1 and Geyde because my read fluctuates on him all the time.
D1 Dryanth was kinda null and I was sure you were scum. I liked Geyde's reasoning behind Dryanth at the time and hadn't really read much into Egix.
These are all the questions I could see. Let me know if I missed any.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:24 am
by eth0s
Your answers make sense. I guess I havent thought about slow wagon formation being resistance before but it makes sense.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am
by faüstiv
In post 911, eth0s wrote:Your answers make sense. I guess I havent thought about slow wagon formation being resistance before but it makes sense.
Yeah I suppose 'slow wagon formation' is a better term. I'll use that from now on when describing Egix wagons.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:35 am
by eth0s
Your usage of resistance may have been correct, I just hadn't thought about it like that before.
I'm really hoping egix flips MRB because that makes this game a lot easier
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:41 am
by Draynth
If I were scum with egix wouldn't I have just forced a lynch on faustiv way harder and then done the whole CC thing tomorrow though?
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:42 am
by Draynth
I know it's all WIFOM coming from me but idk there are more likely partners than me for egix here
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:59 am
by eth0s
Maybe. Can you explain what caused you to claim post hammer?
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:14 am
by faüstiv
deadline expired, uh oh
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:23 am
by eth0s
There was a hammer already. Deadline didnt matter from that point.
Draynth not answering my question about why he felt the need to claim makes me feel uneasy
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:25 am
by eth0s
If this flips goon I'm almost certainly going to be nked
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:26 am
by faüstiv
In post 918, eth0s wrote:There was a hammer already. Deadline didnt matter from that point.
Draynth not answering my question about why he felt the need to claim makes me feel uneasy
I know but still, uh oh.
should we still be talking
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:28 am
by eth0s
yeah we are free to talk until the mod locks the topic
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:30 am
by eth0s
the time after hammer is considered twilight and we are free to use it to discuss things until the mod locks the thread. As far as deadlines go, there is no rule that says we can't talk once it ends. It's just a matter of when ErrantParabola checks the thread again to lock it
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:31 am
by eth0s
In post 918, eth0s wrote:There was a hammer already. Deadline didnt matter from that point.
Draynth not answering my question about why he felt the need to claim makes me feel uneasy
oh wait he answered it in #909. Not an answer I love but oh well
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:33 am
by eth0s
If I die tonight and egix flips goon just please don't take draynth off the table as a potential partner.