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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:18 pm
by Datisi
Official Vote Count 2.06
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With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching
Kanna
(2): Ame, clidd
DrDolittle
(2): Hectic, Compath
Slaxx
(1): Luca Blight
clidd
(1): Kanna
Hectic
(1): Slaxx

Not Voting
(1): DrDolittle

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-03-05 05:30:00).

Mod notes:
  • Compath is V/LA.
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:18 pm
by Slaxx
Or doctor is being shy. Maybe they have a reason

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:23 pm
by clidd
In post 893, Kanna wrote:I’m gonna be busy for a few more hours but I think VOTE: clidd for these follow votes. I don’t think DDL is scum for what he did just there.
This seems a
scum-claim
to me.

Spoiler:
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:26 pm
by Slaxx
3 days until deadline.

The doctor will be on Kanna, Kanna investigates either DDL or Clidd. Massclaim tomorrow. Today we lynch Hectic.

Ctrl+F Hectic in Icon's interactions. Totally plausible partners. Luca, DDL, and Clidd are very unlikely partners to Ico looking through the ISO.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:28 pm
by Slaxx
Lynching Hectic has like a 60% probability of ending this I think.

Kanna should be lynched before end of game no matter what if a doc claims tomorrow, if this isn't right. If there is no doc or other PR, then something is up with Clidd/DDL or slightly less likely Ame.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:28 pm
by Ame
In post 901, Slaxx wrote:Or doctor is being shy. Maybe they have a reason
I'm pretty sure it's a jailkeeper and that it's hectic. He's been crumbing it throughout the game with his RP.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:30 pm
by Slaxx
I don't think so, I think that is just flavor. Vote and let's get a claim.

Read Hectic + Ico ISO and give me one associative that looks good for Hectic. Almost everyone else has one besides me, and thank god I am clear.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:33 pm
by clidd
In post 903, Slaxx wrote:3 days until deadline.

The doctor will be on Kanna, Kanna investigates either DDL or Clidd. Massclaim tomorrow. Today we lynch Hectic.

Ctrl+F Hectic in Icon's interactions. Totally plausible partners. Luca, DDL, and Clidd are very unlikely partners to Ico looking through the ISO.
Assuming Kanna is truly an investigative role, it is better to investigate DDL.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:35 pm
by Luca Blight
Why not no-lynch, Kanna either gets killed or clears/condemns a player.

The only downside to this is it there is a scum doctor, but that seems unlikely with no vig.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:36 pm
by clidd
By the way, Ame controls my vote.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:38 pm
by Slaxx
Im fine with a NL.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:49 pm
by Luca Blight
Kanna should investigate Hectic.

VOTE: No-lynch

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:51 pm
by Slaxx
VOTE: No-lynch

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:08 pm
by Ame
In post 909, clidd wrote:By the way, Ame controls my vote.
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I agree with NLing. I'd like to hear from Hectic and DDL before we end the day though.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:51 pm
by Kanna
In post 847, Ame wrote:
Kanna

In post 652, Kanna wrote:I think I’m coming around to Luca. Also the compath stuff by Ame/Luca is pretty convincing. Still going to look back before deciding
What made you change your mind on Luca at this point in time?
In post 653, Kanna wrote:I feel like Compath/Ico are really similar in their tone is townie and they’ve both had a few chains I thought was really townie but I’m not sure anymore
Can you point out the chains that you felt were townie?
In post 710, Kanna wrote:VOTE: Compath

Is massclaim a good idea today?
Why did you go the mass claim route instead of simply claiming a guilty on Compath? Why have everyone else claim?
In post 841, Kanna wrote:@Ame; No, from my perspective, I only know what I am/my result is the truth.
Exactly, so the point is that from my perspective, I only know what I am, I don't know what you are. Why would you expect me/Clidd to put blind faith into your claim considering that there was another claim that contradicted your result?
Ok, I'm a little tired atm so do you still need 1 and 2? If so, I'll answer tomorrow-ish. Also why those questions?

Third one was my bad, got a little overexcited. I was pretty sure Compath was scum at the time and in my experience, massclaim comes when the game is pretty much solved.

Fourth is ??? of course from my perspective, you/clidd could be scum trying to get rid of a pr so you can save a nk.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:55 pm
by Kanna
In post 861, Ame wrote:I think Kanna is it. The way she went about her claim doesn't feel genuine to me at all. She "gave in" to claiming way too easily and it doesn't really make sense for her to have pushed for a mass claim instead of simply claiming a guilty on Compath and having him claim only. I think Kanna felt she needed to make a move today (as she stated, she felt she would look bad after the Ico flip) and made the play to try and get herself cleared as a town PR.
Also why is my claim not genuine? I was on L-2 with possible scum quickhammering me and my original claim was because I got a guilty.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:57 pm
by Kanna
I'm not really sure I understand why no lynch is good, can someone explain it to me?

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:58 pm
by Kanna
Like, I could just die if there's no doctor (I don't think there is) and absolutely is to be gained.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:59 pm
by Kanna
The only way there's a doctor is if Luca is scum I think, because it *does* seem unbalanced.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:15 pm
by Luca Blight
If you die then we still gain, because you’re one of the main suspects at this point in time. It’s better for you to be NK than lynched, if you’re Town.

If you’re not killed then we get a result.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:17 pm
by Luca Blight
And it’s not like there’s another obvious lynch candidate - we’d be lynching for the sake of it. It’s better play to no-lynch and see what happens.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:29 pm
by Luca Blight
A thought just occurred to me that there could be a Mafia doctor that no-killed to give credence to their claim - they could say ‘I protected ... N1’. That would help balance having a Town gunsmith.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:01 pm
by Ame
Yea Kanna brought that up

pings me

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:03 pm
by Ame
@Kanna the reasoning behind 1 and 2 will help paint a picture of your mindset at the time and whether or not it was genuine.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:12 pm
by Ame
I change my mind on NL. The pool is narrow enough that lynching is beneficial regardless of the outcome. I currently intend to go ddl but it depends on the responses from him* and Hectic.

*Is this grammatically correct?