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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:21 am
by EspressoPatronum
In post 898, Pink Ball wrote:I will; have done it before but I want to be 100% sure. I'm probably end voting you so if you want to 1v1 someone it will have to be me, or if I'm wrong we just lose but I don't think I'm wrong.
The only offsetting thing here is the existence of an alien but I
thought the same thing that Ovines said about your rolecop claim
.
I addressed this earlier. If you're going to try suggesting I'm not a rolecop, you need to answer the question below (bolded and highlighted for convenience).
In post 815, EspressoPatronum wrote:
See below:
In post 487, EspressoPatronum wrote: In post 480, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:Not sure why there were no scum kills but if it was due to a protective- good job! Keep it up!
As for my reads today, I think suji and CSF are definitely town, kerset and pb are most likely town so that leaves espresso and sircakez as scum
Thoughts?
What makes you think CSF and Kerset are town?
I have a
role-related reason to believe Sircakez has a reduced chance of being scum
, so I'm interested to see why you think he's scum.
More importantly, what faction
?
In post 505, EspressoPatronum wrote:Alignment: town FBI agent.
Role: town rolecop.
- I have checked
SirCakez
and PB.
Popcorn to Kerset.
Why would I say that about Cakez if I didn't know he was a seer?
In addition, I claimed rolecop earlier than most others claimed their role. Fake claiming a single role (such as rolecop) would open me up to a counterclaim.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:21 am
by EspressoPatronum
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:22 am
by Pink Ball
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:22 am
by EspressoPatronum
That VT claim by TSE/PB....
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:29 am
by EspressoPatronum
PB as an alien roleblocker explains why Ovine died when he did.
If we were all out of scum by that point, PB had no excuse to block Ovine beyond that one night. We would have had a vig going uncontested all the way to lylo, meaning an alien would almost certainly lose.
Better to go for a tie than a loss, I suppose.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 am
by Pink Ball
Ok you could be a rolecop, let's keep with that. You could still be mafia who tried to look town by discarding another mafia card. And even if you say "I didn't know you didn't get a PM when you were roleblocked even when you didn't made an action" is slimy. Your "I wasn't roleblocked" looked like trying to cover the no nightkill 'cause you actually didn't submit a nightkill. You didn't rolecop either 'cause there was no point.
I don't know what to do right now, I really don't think I'll change my mind 'cause SirCakez being an alien is the only chance for you to be town and I don't really think his game makes sense as any scum faction, including alien.
p-edit: oh there you go, that's the change I needed to see.
VOTE: Espresso Patronum
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 am
by Pink Ball
Yeah, it's solved. Sorry Cakez, it will be your call
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:35 am
by Pink Ball
Only chance of me being scum is alien and that's the only chance EP has for winning this. It makes sense that he didn't conceded when I asked him to do it
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 am
by EspressoPatronum
@PB - You 'risking' the game by roleblocking me two nights ago also doesn't add up.
If Kerset was non-alien scum and you were town, you were 100% dead. They would have lynched me as a result (bcz Cakez' last message was to block Kerset), and scum!Kerset would have won.
If I was non-alien scum, your roleblock was unnecessary, as blocking Kerset would mean someone else died (either you or Cakez). That would have cleared Kerset + allowed you/Cakez to vote me.
But instead you took a random 'hero' play and set me up to die in lylo*
*I suppose it's lynch or tie, so LyTi?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:56 am
by EspressoPatronum
VOTE: Pink Ball
Half of me wants to give you the tie for the effort.... but the other half wants the W.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:57 am
by Pink Ball
Oh so you're claiming I didn't roleblock you two nights ago?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:58 am
by Pink Ball
If Kerset was actually a survivor, scum!you or scum!SirCakez would have won by shooting me. I had to risk it because of Kerset's post. And I fucking nailed it.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:59 am
by Pink Ball
You just slipped there not taking in consideration the survivor alternative!
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:00 am
by EspressoPatronum
I believe that you did, but I'm saying you would only do that as scum bcz you knew it wouldn't have game-losing repercussions.
It would have been more accurate to say "the [reasons] for you 'risking' the game by roleblocking me two nights ago also [do not] add up."
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:00 am
by Titus
I think we should lynch EP. It feels dirty to lynch EP based off the same newbie error I made when I was a newbie, but it makes the most sense.
Alien PB likely just wins last night.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:01 am
by EspressoPatronum
Alien PB can't win because he already shot Ovine.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:01 am
by Pink Ball
Also, why would I want to lynch the claimed survivor if I were alien?
EP I'm sorry but you picked the wrong 1v1 and I lured you to it. You have absolutely no chance of winning this. I appreciate the effort after me getting scum lynches back to back and taking the right decisions, but you won't win.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:02 am
by Pink Ball
So you're claiming I decided to go for a tie instead of trying to win. That wouldn't be towards my win condition, and I'm pretty sure Ovine was townlocking me so why would I do that?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 am
by Pink Ball
Alien!SilverBullet: "let's lynch every single scum and kill the vig so I don't have any chance of winning this"
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 am
by EspressoPatronum
In post 917, Pink Ball wrote:
So you're claiming I decided to go for a tie instead of trying to win. That wouldn't be towards my win condition, and I'm pretty sure Ovine was townlocking me so why would I do that?
904
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:05 am
by Pink Ball
Roleblocked CSF 'cause she was my biggest scumread, decided to counter TL 'cause I knew I could get them both lynched if I did instead of lynching CSF first and TL later: I can't be mafia.
Roleblocked the other werewolf helping town not get another loss.
Roleblocked you when there was a slim chance of town losing.
I fucking owned this game. Silver Bullet was, is and will be on point. Don't even try.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:06 am
by Pink Ball
In post 904, EspressoPatronum wrote:PB as an alien roleblocker explains why Ovine died when he did.
If we were all out of scum by that point, PB had no excuse to block Ovine beyond that one night. We would have had a vig going uncontested all the way to lylo, meaning an alien would almost certainly lose.
Better to go for a tie than a loss, I suppose.
We were all out of scum by that point BECAUSE OF ME.
And I could leash Ovine 'cause she was fucking townlocking ME.
If I were Alien, I WOULD HAVE ALREADY WON.
If I were any faction other than town, I WOULD HAVE ALREADY WON.
Kneel to me.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 am
by EspressoPatronum
Yeah, you've played a phenomenal game. At the end of the day, I don't know what your thoughts were at the end.
The best I can do is guess on the lack of kills. Doing so suggests you're an alien. It's possible you started playing to not lose vs playing to win.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am
by Pink Ball
Timing of Ovine's death make absofuckinglutely no sense for alien!SilverBullet. Let the vig make one or more mistakes and kill her after LyLo. Alien got only one shot, why use it there?
Also there's another hole in your theory: where is Ovine's shot in that night? Did she shoot herself? Or did I block her AND killed her at the same night? I don't think that's even possible my sweet EP, and you would know that.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am
by EspressoPatronum
It's also tough to recover here because you've been throwing light shade on me for the last few in-game days. I dismissed it as paranoia, but it's clear you've planned this for a while.
Nancy Drew did the same thing to me in CoaLITion.