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Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:01 am
by Quick
In post 898, votato wrote:basically quick's system for solving the game is the same way the rest of us play, except he thinks hes wayyyyy smarter.
No?

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:05 am
by Blair
He's saying, by the way you've described your system, it analyzes and draws conclusions from all the same variables that everyone else is trying to analyze and draw conclusions from.

Which is generally true.

I don't really want to talk about your system anymore to be honest, and I wish you'd quit referencing it. The system is designed by you and draws conclusions based on variables you decided to look for using the assumptions you gave it. So it's really not a system, it's just you. It's your thought process. So I'd rather talk to, and about, you than your "system." The latter irrationally absolves of responsibility for the reads you produce.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:08 am
by Quick
In post 901, Blair wrote:He's saying, by the way you've described your system, it analyzes and draws conclusions from all the same variables that everyone else is trying to analyze and draw conclusions from.

Which is generally true.

I don't really want to talk about your system anymore to be honest, and I wish you'd quit referencing it. The system is designed by you and draws conclusions based on variables you decided to look for using the assumptions you gave it. So it's really not a system, it's just you. It's your thought process. So I'd rather talk to, and about, you than your "system." The latter irrationally absolves of responsibility for the reads you produce.
Way to contradict yourself in the same flipping post.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:08 am
by midwaybear
Quick was wrong D1

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:17 am
by Blair
In post 902, Quick wrote:Way to contradict yourself in the same flipping post.
Way to miss the point of the flipping post:
In post 901, Blair wrote:So it's really not a system, it's just you. It's your thought process. So I'd rather talk to, and about, you than your "system." The latter irrationally absolves of responsibility for the reads you produce.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:20 am
by Blair
In post 903, midwaybear wrote:Quick was wrong D1
Are you going somewhere with that? If not, why bring it up?

Also, welcome. What style of catch-up can we expect from you?

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:20 am
by Quick
In post 904, Blair wrote:
In post 902, Quick wrote:Way to contradict yourself in the same flipping post.
Way to miss the point of the flipping post:
In post 901, Blair wrote:So it's really not a system, it's just you. It's your thought process. So I'd rather talk to, and about, you than your "system." The latter irrationally absolves of responsibility for the reads you produce.
And your wrong too. I would not doubt you trying to discredit me if you are Scum here. This would also make the NK make sense because I was SRing Nauci. What exactly is saving you at this point is your post count. Other than that, you actually sheeped me D1 so the fact you are trying to discredit me now is very telling.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:24 am
by Blair
I'm not discrediting you, I'm giving you agency.

If I were discrediting you, I would be voting for you.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:26 am
by Quick
It is notable that Nauci only seriously voted between votato and R2R. I am taking that into consideration here and it actually emphasizes my SR on votato.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:26 am
by Quick
In post 907, Blair wrote:I'm not discrediting you, I'm giving you agency.

If I were discrediting you, I would be voting for you.
You could never get my lynched here. The fact people haven't given you their stance on me is evidence of this.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:30 am
by Blair
This sounds more like wounded ego than a case, to me.

If I'm scum and want to get rid of you, but I'm not voting for you because I know I can never lynch you, then why aren't you dead?

I'm not scum and I'm not voting for you because we need to resolve Gamma today.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:44 am
by Quick
In post 910, Blair wrote:This sounds more like wounded ego than a case, to me.

If I'm scum and want to get rid of you, but I'm not voting for you because I know I can never lynch you, then why aren't you dead?

I'm not scum and I'm not voting for you because we need to resolve Gamma today.
No? It's based on my reads. You are a SR of mine based on my method/system/way I solve the game. So I have every reason to push you rn.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:45 am
by Quick
And let it be known: no one is talking about Dunn's hammer.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:45 am
by Quick
In post 903, midwaybear wrote:Quick was wrong D1
You disappoint me with such low posting.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:52 am
by mavsfan41
In post 879, Gammagooey wrote:@mavs - 702's in there because of him poking at VPB for a read on NPOM in it - VPB was already strongly scumreading r2r at that point, so asking him about NPOM is probably going to lead to one of two things - the likeliest answer is VPB says 'NPOM is <a read between slightly scummy and town> but not as scummy as you' and gives r2r a reason to vote NPOM. The less likely answer is 'oh yeah that's actually pretty damn scummy' which again gives cover for r2r to vote NPOM with everyone else.
702 tries to make him look like he's trying to get more info out of the wagon when I suspect he'd know that VPB was strongly scumreading him from VPB's #535 through #574 and then uses that in #782 as another reason to vote NPOM.
I didn’t see this the first time. Thanks for the clarification.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:55 am
by Blair
In post 912, Quick wrote:And let it be known: no one is talking about Dunn's hammer.
And let it be known: Quick didn't read the first page of the day.
In post 863, CantHateAPuppy wrote:that atrocious hammer
In post 861, mavsfan41 wrote:Dunnstral - I didn’t like the catch up and hammer. Read to me like a “sure, why not” vote. Reading the catch up, I couldn’t see conviction in a reason to hammer with the thought of NPOM flipping scum.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:56 am
by Quick
I think the wagons should be between votato and R2R tbqh.

VOTE: votato

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:02 am
by votato
In post 912, Quick wrote:And let it be known: no one is talking about Dunn's hammer.
this is really random considering the rest of your posts, and also wrong. several people said dunn's posting and vote was strange. including me.
In post 916, Quick wrote:I think the wagons should be between votato and R2R tbqh.

VOTE: votato
why is that your lynchpool? why do you prefer me over r2r?

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:07 am
by midwaybear
In post 913, Quick wrote:
In post 903, midwaybear wrote:Quick was wrong D1
You disappoint me with such low posting.
I am a changed man

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:11 am
by Quick
In post 917, votato wrote:
In post 916, Quick wrote:I think the wagons should be between votato and R2R tbqh.

VOTE: votato
why is that your lynchpool? why do you prefer me over r2r?
I think there are people who want to spill your blood. I also think there are people who want to spill R2R's blood. I currently have R2R above you. That's why I am voting you. That and the fact that there are already some people voting for R2R and I want to help facilitate the wagons here.

mav's switch from votato to R2R seems a bit short sighted and I have previously thought mav to be a critical thinker. So this puzzles me.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:12 am
by Quick
In post 918, midwaybear wrote:
In post 913, Quick wrote:
In post 903, midwaybear wrote:Quick was wrong D1
You disappoint me with such low posting.
I am a changed man
How much of the game have you read and,
Why are you not voting rn?

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:15 am
by midwaybear
i skimmed through the whole game last night.
Idk why I am not voting.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:20 am
by Blair
Gun to my head, if I had to solve right now it would be:

Gamma
+
Puppy
/Midway +
Mavs
/Atarashi/Quick

Bolds being my best guesses, sorted left to right by confidence both within each slot and overall.

The Mav read is my highest confidence for a third scum, but still isn't very high at all - and that's if there even are three scum.

The lurkers are basically just me accounting for the unknowable. We need more content from those slots to sort them.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:23 am
by Quick
In post 922, Blair wrote:Gun to my head, if I had to solve right now it would be:

Gamma
+
Puppy
/Midway +
Mavs
/Atarashi/Quick

Bolds being my best guesses, sorted left to right by confidence both within each slot and overall.

The Mav read is my highest confidence for a third scum, but still isn't very high at all - and that's if there even are three scum.

The lurkers are basically just me accounting for the unknowable. We need more content from those slots to sort them.
Why is votato Town? Also, votato cannot be Scum with Puppy, but I might go back and double check that for accuracy.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 7:26 am
by Quick
ASSUMING R2R is Scum means Gamma is NOT Scum and vice versa.