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nvm yours changes too i just had to f5

big sign that i need to go to sleep
good night friends

farewell brave soldier

In post 898, Ydrasse wrote:osuka did not seem terribly forthright and i was too tired to wrassle

osuka, thoughts on taylor?

Slight townlean. Hasn’t done anything you couldn’t reasonably fake as scum but feels generally towny because some of the probes were actually sorta good

In post 899, Ydrasse wrote:also give me ur strong trs if u have em

No strong townreads so far, sorry

In post 901, Saudade wrote:nvm yours changes too i just had to f5

lol big brain

thank u

You’re welcome

Good night

goodnight strong fighter

You know what they say osuka

Smol hed

But dik big

i say good night to all the homies but no one is there when i need it... i’m a martyr

In post 841, shellyc wrote:plusjoy scumleans on taylor without a vote

slight alarm bells

so your case on me is preflip associatives on day 1? rather than finger-pointing like this could you make an effort to explain why you scumread the people you are calling scum?

"slight alarm bells" does not mean an associative SR

it means if you flip scum I will look back at 841 and consider the possibility of you two being scumbuddies

Now my readslist in order:

Town
shellyc
Ydrasse - decent and genuine reads, liked the way they pushed against me and the emotions are on point
PlusJOYED - disagreeable and posted early readslist which is a plus. I'm also factoring a meta-read in here. Emotion seems very genuine.
Saudade - Makes effort to gamesolve and make pushes. Many controversial takes and very bold playstyle
bob3141 - geniune posting and some hot takes. More of a gut read
Null
Menalque - ISO looks alright but something seems off on this slot or am I being paranoid? Like their solve quite a lot though
teacher - readslist looks fine but most of the things they have posted are NAI.
Andresvmb - Nothing much to go off, tone feels a tad strange.
NDMath - not fully buying ascetic claim tbh. only 3 posts so far
Scum
osuka - Weird TL on Taylor, not giving signs about alignment, concerning posting
innocentvillager - quite unsure about this one myself but they have been quite passive and agreeable which I consider scum traits
Kerset - Do not like reaction to Saudade's push. No effort to gamesolve and fairly passive.
Tayl0r Swift - done almost nothing, agreeable lurker and literally has 0 contribution to town

In post 665, Saudade wrote:

In post 659, Menalque wrote:Saudade were you saying that you thought teacher was scummy bc that’s not a read I’m getting at all

Are you getting the read now?

I’m getting it more but like ime teacher has a pretty hard moral rule about not lying about anything IRL to gain advantage in game so I’m inclined to say his lack of presence is NAI

Also I sort of don’t think scum!him responds to me opening with a shitpush in quite such a calm manner, I think he’d feel obliged to push back a bit and he just... didn’t do that? If he continues to not post a lot I’ll reevaluate but I’m kind of happy to just leave him be for now until he can turn up more

In post 671, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 617, Menalque wrote:Actually wait, another thing @andres, why do you like osuka so far? I feel like he has p good scum equity at this point in the game as someone not like trying that hard to solve but definitely trying to give of the impression of solving, and I kind of think hard pushing one person in particular is often indicative of that sort of fake scumhunting

If osuka had highlighted something silly about Kerset, then maybe I would agree with this. But osuka’s points seemed perfectly legitimate to me. It did almost seem like Kerset was avoiding commenting on what was going on, and kept deflecting in the face of pressure. And osuka had some of the same reactions I had about shellyc’s posts but expressed them in a way that is more sarcastic and unfriendly that I would have done. However, I fully expect to see some decent takes from osuka, and until I find myself disagreeing or feeling like I’m being led in the wrong direction, I’m not going to SR it.

Osuka’s point(s) on kerset seem to be limited to “policy lynch” bc of his shitposting, so are you just agreeing with policying there or am I missing something in ISO? It feels like you’re talking about saudade here not osuka, or like conflating the two of them.

I also don’t see how osuka was having the same reaction as you to shelly when you’re hard townreading her and he opened by voting her in reaction to the same posts you’re TRing? Idgi

In post 676, PlusJOYED wrote:hmm... aesthic and miller in a 13 man seems really unlikely.

Ehhh i think it depends on what the design philosophy was

I think it’s reasonably likely depending on the rest of the PRs

Okay, I actually think I want this more than Taylor atp

VOTE: plusjoy

I think the attempt to go “one scum seems likely in the miller/ascetic” is more of a scum thought process than a town one, which I think is just wondering what the setup philosophy was. Whereas scum are already clued in on the setup from whatever power they have and would likely try to take advantage of roles that might become Named Townies lategame by trying to shade them/flip them early

In post 703, innocentvillager wrote:Stream of consciousness/genuine solvy vibe, reevaluates, good posting overall that is hard not impossible for scum to fake

Probably not as town as you and ydr I think but still up there

IV run me through again what it is that’s town about plus? Like his engagement has felt okay and I was starting doubt but I just feel like he’s approaching the game in a way that I can’t understand as being from a town PoV

In post 724, Ydrasse wrote:i think that the odds of plusjoyed being scum have dwindled as they posted if only like... the confidence with which they post things that honestly don't make sense (at least 2 me) has to be towny, right?

I mean, no, why does that have to be towny?

Like I know, I know, can’t apply meta across people/sites but like I had an almost exact same response to someone in a game on mafuniverse recently where they kept pushing stuff that just didn’t make any sense to me, but they were confident and got generally townread by the rest of thread so I eased off my scumread and then they were scum all along

And like I’m getting the same vibe here where it’s like I’m trying to put myself in plus’ shoes and to understand how he’s getting to the conclusions he’s at as town and it’s just not adding up to me

In post 728, shellyc wrote:I read their scumgame and it's obviously different

This is like... not helpful and doesn’t really answer the question. What’s obviously different about it, and why do you think ydrasse isn’t capable of learning from her experiences so far to simulate more of her town behaviour into her scumgame?