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In post 891, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'd vote him but MWB still hasn't apologized for causing the death of poor Eliza yet.

I'm a part-time Necromancer.

Eliza might not wake up on the right side of the bed anymore, but tis the price for re-animation. Also 9000$.

In post 897, SirCakez wrote:What does this mean lol

my imaginary vote is on you but my real vote is on MWB for calling me LHF.

well actually not me but Eliza.

Poor Eliza she was so young.

In post 901, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 897, SirCakez wrote:What does this mean lol

my imaginary vote is on you but my real vote is on MWB for calling me LHF.

No what does it mean that I'm too sweet

you hand out townreads like candy, it's surface level, and your name sounds like a cake.

I've only declared like three townreads?

If you think the pizza stuff is just joking around, then those posts are doing their job of being ungrokable except for their chosen destinations.

They're there for a reason that you're not privy to.

In post 905, SirCakez wrote:I've only declared like three townreads?

so?

In post 899, DiamondSentinel wrote:Functionally? Very little.
To normalize a set of reads (or a stance) would just be to grant that it is legitimate and has merit.
Merit is that it's not complete bullshit and is worth discussing.
Legitimacy is that it is meant to solve the game and not sow dissent.

It seems to me that reads either have merit or they don't, regardless of if the person tries to push merit on them or not. Is this correct?

I need translators for Pooky and Cabd

In post 896, SirCakez wrote:

In post 889, Tammy wrote:? How is that bias?

You seem to be very close with Cabd as a person and your defense of him mostly consists of "it's just his playstyle" when I feel like the case against him goes beyond that

Yeah Cabd's a friend in real life, but that's not the issue. How is it any different than the reasoning you used to defend Diamond Sentinel earlier? When you know someone is getting attacked for their play style and not for something actually scummy don't you point it out?

What points of Diamond Sentinel's are not just play style or personality? And what part isn't weird narrative building?

(Note: I don't have a developed town read on Cabd, nor do I really have a scum read on Diamond Sentinel.)

In post 834, petapan wrote:random thought i had on my bike but pooky dropping the roleplay of his own accord probably a good sign for his alignment

I'd maybe debate this but just from an impartial eye I'd say you're right

btw something about the interactions between cabd, ffery, and bell is concerning. It feels like a cold war Mexican standoff. I don't think it's entirely scum theater though, based on the specific vibes I get

In post 909, SirCakez wrote:I need translators for Pooky and Cabd

how many surface level townreads do you have to give out for them to look fake af? I'm not writing a phd thesis here

I'd argue "legitimate" reads are just reads that the person who has them genuinely believes

In post 910, Tammy wrote:

In post 896, SirCakez wrote:

In post 889, Tammy wrote:? How is that bias?

You seem to be very close with Cabd as a person and your defense of him mostly consists of "it's just his playstyle" when I feel like the case against him goes beyond that

Yeah Cabd's a friend in real life, but that's not the issue. How is it any different than the reasoning you used to defend Diamond Sentinel earlier? When you know someone is getting attacked for their play style and not for something actually scummy don't you point it out?

What points of Diamond Sentinel's are not just play style or personality? And what part isn't weird narrative building?

(Note: I don't have a developed town read on Cabd, nor do I really have a scum read on Diamond Sentinel.)

Tammy 100% town

In post 910, Tammy wrote:

In post 896, SirCakez wrote:

In post 889, Tammy wrote:? How is that bias?

You seem to be very close with Cabd as a person and your defense of him mostly consists of "it's just his playstyle" when I feel like the case against him goes beyond that

Yeah Cabd's a friend in real life, but that's not the issue. How is it any different than the reasoning you used to defend Diamond Sentinel earlier? When you know someone is getting attacked for their play style and not for something actually scummy don't you point it out?

What points of Diamond Sentinel's are not just play style or personality? And what part isn't weird narrative building?

(Note: I don't have a developed town read on Cabd, nor do I really have a scum read on Diamond Sentinel.)

My main point of defense on DS earlier was that he was trying to make the game serious while people were still having fun nostalgia-ing and people were using that to attack him. Not his playstyle although that was a part.
I have not dug into DS's case but I think his point that Cabd is looking for approval and validation holds water. What would you call weird narrative building?

In post 846, DiamondSentinel wrote:Syr I think just deserves a bit of pressure. Not a hard read on them by any means, but something's bugging me.
Oh, and Tammy should get some of the pressure pie. Kinda forgot about that read, but there isn't much to make me feel any better.

what makes a person deserving of pressure, in your opinion?:

In post 912, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 909, SirCakez wrote:I need translators for Pooky and Cabd

how many surface level townreads do you have to give out for them to look fake af? I'm not writing a phd thesis here

You said I'm "handing them out like candy" which implies a lot. Which I obviously have not done.
Surface-level whatever I can see how you'd see that.

In post 915, SirCakez wrote:My main point of defense on DS earlier was that he was trying to make the game serious while people were still having fun nostalgia-ing and people were using that to attack him. Not his playstyle although that was a part.
I have not dug into DS's case but I think his point that Cabd is looking for approval and validation holds water. What would you call weird narrative building?

why did you even feel the need to defend him?

In post 901, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 897, SirCakez wrote:What does this mean lol

my imaginary vote is on you but my real vote is on MWB for calling me LHF.

In post 902, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well actually not me but Eliza.

Poor Eliza she was so young.

My joke about translation was referring to these btw

In post 918, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 915, SirCakez wrote:My main point of defense on DS earlier was that he was trying to make the game serious while people were still having fun nostalgia-ing and people were using that to attack him. Not his playstyle although that was a part.
I have not dug into DS's case but I think his point that Cabd is looking for approval and validation holds water. What would you call weird narrative building?

why did you even feel the need to defend him?

because I felt bad for him tbh

In post 917, SirCakez wrote:You said I'm "handing them out like candy" which implies a lot. Which I obviously have not done.
Surface-level whatever I can see how you'd see that.

I didn't read your whole ISO buddy, just saw what you were doing on the page and responded to it. 3 townreads, 30 townreads, ain't much difference to me when its surface level buddying.

In post 852, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I fear that whatever I say will always be turned against me, even if it's the towniest thing that has ever been done before, and I'll end up as the first blood again.

this mindset seems valid. It's not a towntell, though.

In post 920, SirCakez wrote:because I felt bad for him tbh

what did you think was gonna happen? some rabid nostalgia mob was gonna string him up for being a party pooper?

In post 908, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 899, DiamondSentinel wrote:Functionally? Very little.
To normalize a set of reads (or a stance) would just be to grant that it is legitimate and has merit.
Merit is that it's not complete bullshit and is worth discussing.
Legitimacy is that it is meant to solve the game and not sow dissent.

It seems to me that reads either have merit or they don't, regardless of if the person tries to push merit on them or not. Is this correct?

More or less. Merit is a more objective measure of a read, but its recognition is subjective. People often won't realize that a person's reads have merit because of the fog and friction of the game.