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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm
by skitter30
Spoiler:
In post 452, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 451, lilith2013 wrote: Why?
In post 433, Infinity 324 wrote:I find scum more likely to say "I may be bad but not scum" since people don't like to admit they're wrong. "feels a little off" is way down in confidence from where you were just a second ago too.
This reasoning still applies, I think tgp is trying to get read as "bad town"
In post 455, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 422, TheGoldenParadox wrote: penguin you can call my takes bad but calling me scum for them is a terrible take yourself
This is not quite "I may be bad but I'm not scum" but it's close enough. "Feels a little off" is something you'd use to describe a post from someone you were otherwise townreading, not a hard scumread usually.
In post 545, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson why are you focusing on NAI stuff so much, this is literally just about theory.
In post 551, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 549, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 545, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson why are you focusing on NAI stuff so much, this is literally just about theory.
I don't see it as nai but if you want to explain why that'd be neat
Like, s_s made a post about his opinion on mafia in general (i.e., that good reads are hard to get as town or fake as scum). Do you think he could be lying?


@lilith these felt like a townie approach to me ^

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:57 pm
by skitter30
In post 881, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 861, lilith2013 wrote:I think DGB and infinity are scummy as hell, their votes are opportunistic
LOL

I hardly had any votes
I'm p sure rhat's not what she was trying to say ....

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:59 pm
by skitter30
I am feeling like maybe give lilith a *bit* of space to see if anything comes of it, and want to vote dgb in the meanwhile

This isnt an indefinite pass tho, and if she doesnt town it up soon (exceptions made for being sick etc) i'll go back there ^

VOTE: dgb

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:03 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 899, DrippingGoofball wrote:No scumhunting, she's just diddling around, making excuses.

Why, you think she's town? Convince me.
Not per se, but "not scumhunting" isn't a scummy behavior in and of itself. It's not as though scum-lilith forgot that she was supposed to look like she was scumhunting.

Also, what's your read on me?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:08 pm
by Infinity 324
UNVOTE:
VOTE: hoopla

back to this I guess

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:14 pm
by the worst
vote count 1.24


lilith2013 (5)
: PenguinPower, Uncrowned, petapan, DrippingGoofball, davesaz
DrippingGoofball (2)
: lilith2013, skitter30
Hoopla (2)
: TheGoldenParadox, Infinity 324
petapan (1)
: JacksonVirgo
skitter30 (1)
: Dunnstral

Not voting
: Something_Smart, Pine, Hoopla

Deadline: (expired on 2020-11-02 21:15:00)

With 14 alive it takes 8 to eliminate.


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:33 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 903, Something_Smart wrote:Not per se, but "not scumhunting" isn't a scummy behavior in and of itself.
I disagree.

It's one of the most reliable scum tells that there are.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:37 pm
by Something_Smart
I say that as someone who frequently does not scumhunt as town.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:06 pm
by skitter30
Dgb! Should i be voting you?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:09 pm
by Infinity 324
Random thought that better describes why I scumread hoopla: I think she’s approaching the game pretty simplistically while appearing to be thoughtful.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:54 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 907, Something_Smart wrote:I say that as someone who frequently does not scumhunt as town.
I would be on you like white on rice.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:19 pm
by Something_Smart
Even though you know it's not scum indicative because I just told you?

What's your read on me atm?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:36 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Still null.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:37 pm
by PenguinPower
UNVOTE:

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:39 pm
by PenguinPower
VOTE: pine

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:44 pm
by petapan
In post 861, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 853, skitter30 wrote:
In post 851, Something_Smart wrote:Why would that be cause for a scumread?
Idk
I feel like i should have more pushback and more people suspicous of my motivations
ummmmm maybe because you’re doing scum’s work for them??? we all know I’m a PR unless I was a complete doofus and didn’t submit a pick. if you’re town, scum are fucking salivating over the thought that they didn’t have to do
anything
and I got handed to them on a platter.

Since the jig’s kind of up at this point - I knew I’d be an obvious NK target for being first draft pick, I was hoping to not be incredibly obvtown to the point that it got me killed N1 so I could maybe get something useful done before I died. Hence being a lurksack. Unfortunately I underestimated how awful I play when under pressure and your determination to wagon me.

anyway, there are a bunch of people on the wagon for shitty reasons/“for pressure”/“because someone else wanted it” - I think DGB and infinity are scummy as hell, their votes are opportunistic, I agree with peta that DGB’s catchup post was a whole lot of head-scratching. I’m not sure I’m up for my typical play atm given that I... think I have covid, but I’m gonna try to be coherent before I fall asleep again.
really sorry to hear that. hope things work out for you


i don't know if the laying low to not get nked thing makes
sense
because, well, everyone knows the draft order anyway. gut says the wagon response isn't scummy though

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:49 pm
by petapan
VOTE: drippinggoofball

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:07 pm
by skitter30
In post 908, skitter30 wrote:Dgb! Should i be voting you?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 779, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 778, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 777, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 775, Infinity 324 wrote:The way I see it, first they said they did it for the memes, then they said they did it for the memes and because they wanted to guarantee a unique number. How is that lying?
They lied via omission.
Explain the scum motivation here, and explain why it’s sooo unlikely for a townie to not say their entire draft strategy.
Read the context, they were being called sus for choosing a number like that and instead of actually defending themselves they went via the "haha lul" approach and when I called them out on it they added another response to cater to what I said. Then their posts completely changed with tone before my suspicions being called trash by everyone else and then they went back to their general attitude but except the tone was still trash for a bit.

Picking a large unique number reliably lands you near the middle of the draft

So it's a strategy, and scum can employ it, but it's not inherently scummy

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:20 pm
by Dunnstral
It's also not more suspicious than something like 13 which is unlikely to double up and ends up at about the same place

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:29 pm
by Dunnstral
A lot of people just hopped off of Lilith. From l-1 to l-5

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:31 pm
by petapan
thanks

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:32 pm
by Dunnstral
VOTE: Hoopla

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:30 pm
by Hoopla
In post 922, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Hoopla
hey, did you ignore my question in on purpose?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:33 pm
by Uncrowned
In post 920, Dunnstral wrote:A lot of people just hopped off of Lilith. From l-1 to l-5
What do you make of this?