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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:09 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 895, Roden wrote:
In post 893, Galron wrote:
In post 891, Roden wrote:VOTE: Infinity

I think this slot has a higher chance of flipping red than Gamma. It's possible Infinity is trying to build false associatives, and it feels like she could just be white knighting Gamma.
I think if it were a WK she'd have an actual reason to tr him.
That's the issue. She doesn't have a reason to TR him. So why is she? Unless she's about to claim N0 Cop check or Masons, I don't see how she could be confidently town reading him with zero explanation.
idgi entirely either but she used to be in the top 3 at catching scum!me (and might still be because aside from once I haven’t really rolled scum against her recently) so that could be part of why

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:09 pm
by rousseau
In post 897, Infinity 324 wrote:i have a lot of experience with gamma, and i think the way he's letting his observations flow instead of feeling forced is very towny for him.
you said this earlier immediately after gamma emerald townread pooky for doublevoting gamma emerald and i am still confused about this from all non-pooky parties involved even though gamma emerald said application of vibecheck towny

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:10 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 899, skitter30 wrote:i mean if i saw townread A calling townread B scum with me i would probably have some sort of response, probably along the lines of explaining why B is town and/or explaining why i'm town

i wouldn't just like ignore that altogether
I'm pretty sure this scenario happened to me in this very game.

I ignored it.

All I know is that I'm town. These other clowns could be anything.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:10 pm
by Cephrir
Kyouko obvtown.

The case itself, hmm it's okay.
In post 824, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 819, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you could be masons with gamma i'd still vote the guy out
Okay what the fuck bro
This is the first time I have smelled gamma scum at all, though.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by Infinity 324
i think kyouko's post "makes sense" in the sense that yes, me being scum with gamma could possibly be a narrative from her perspective, but i think there's a pretty clear town motivation that she's missing/doesn't think is likely for whatever reason. i.e. that gamma simply didn't have much of an impression of me early on so he didn't really engage her about me since he didn't have much to say. the galron part is a little +scum but i believe that gamma believes in the reason to tr galron, weak reasoning isn't really a strong scumtell

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by Cephrir
In post 829, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: skitter for some reason the fact that skitter decided to make such an obvious statement really pinged me and suddenly i want to kill her again
Huh? What statement?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by rousseau
In post 902, DrippingGoofball wrote:All I know is that I'm town. These other clowns could be anything.
In post 479, rousseau wrote:i am not scum regardless of infinity's alignment
was just talking about what led to this

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 897, Infinity 324 wrote:i have a lot of experience with gamma, and i think the way he's letting his observations flow instead of feeling forced is very towny for him.

i didn't give my reasoning since i didn't think it'd be convincing/useful to anyone else.
Spoiler: Validated!
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:13 pm
by Cephrir
In post 848, Galron wrote:Are we back in rvs or sm?
What?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:14 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 901, rousseau wrote:
In post 897, Infinity 324 wrote:i have a lot of experience with gamma, and i think the way he's letting his observations flow instead of feeling forced is very towny for him.
you said this earlier immediately after gamma emerald townread pooky for doublevoting gamma emerald and i am still confused about this from all non-pooky parties involved even though gamma emerald said application of vibecheck towny
yeah, i didn't really agree with gamma's townread on pooky either, but the way he took a small observation and used that as the basis for his read is exactly how gamma plays mafia. the way i interpret it is, a lot of posting is noise to him but one little thing will stick out and strike him as especially ai.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:14 pm
by Tetrina
rousseau when you go back to read what someone said earlier do you always have a reason?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:15 pm
by rousseau
In post 908, Cephrir wrote:
In post 848, Galron wrote:Are we back in rvs or sm?
What?
i believe this was around the time drippinggoofball and pooky were having fun and an extremely high volume of votes were placed - votes probably worth looking into

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:16 pm
by Roden
In post 898, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 891, Roden wrote:it feels like she could just be white knighting Gamma.
How do you differentiate white knighting from an honest town read?
Having an actual basis for the read would help. But not only does she not give a reason for the town read, she doesn't do anything to dispute the case against him or even herself. If Gamma flipped green, I wouldn't doubt at all that the reason she's blankly town reading him is because she TMI'd it.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:16 pm
by rousseau
In post 910, Tetrina wrote:rousseau when you go back to read what someone said earlier do you always have a reason?
no? or at least, not like a 'reasonable reason' or even a reason i could put into words

but sometimes i do! and sometimes i work from memory without immediately looking back

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:17 pm
by Tetrina
In post 913, rousseau wrote:
In post 910, Tetrina wrote:rousseau when you go back to read what someone said earlier do you always have a reason?
no? or at least, not like a 'reasonable reason' or even a reason i could put into words

but sometimes i do! and sometimes i work from memory without immediately looking back
I think that makes you town for trying to find things to use against the scums all the time :D

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:19 pm
by Tetrina
In post 891, Roden wrote:VOTE: Infinity

I think this slot has a higher chance of flipping red than Gamma. It's possible Infinity is trying to build false associatives, and it feels like she could just be white knighting Gamma.
What does false associatives mean?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:21 pm
by Cephrir
I think I like rodents

My instinct was to scumread gamma's response to the case, but now that I think about what response I would townread and I'm not really sure, meh

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:21 pm
by Cephrir
Excellent typo

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:21 pm
by Roden
In post 915, Tetrina wrote:
In post 891, Roden wrote:VOTE: Infinity

I think this slot has a higher chance of flipping red than Gamma. It's possible Infinity is trying to build false associatives, and it feels like she could just be white knighting Gamma.
What does false associatives mean?
If Infinity is scum, it doesn't necessarily mean Gamma is as well despite it looking like she's trying to buddy him.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:21 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 912, Roden wrote:
In post 898, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 891, Roden wrote:it feels like she could just be white knighting Gamma.
How do you differentiate white knighting from an honest town read?
Having an actual basis for the read would help. But not only does she not give a reason for the town read, she doesn't do anything to dispute the case against him or even herself. If Gamma flipped green, I wouldn't doubt at all that the reason she's blankly town reading him is because she TMI'd it.
now that i gave the read and the dispute, what did you think

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:23 pm
by Roden
Rodents........

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:23 pm
by Cephrir
I'm really into stoats

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:28 pm
by Roden
In post 919, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 912, Roden wrote:
In post 898, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 891, Roden wrote:it feels like she could just be white knighting Gamma.
How do you differentiate white knighting from an honest town read?
Having an actual basis for the read would help. But not only does she not give a reason for the town read, she doesn't do anything to dispute the case against him or even herself. If Gamma flipped green, I wouldn't doubt at all that the reason she's blankly town reading him is because she TMI'd it.
now that i gave the read and the dispute, what did you think
I think you probably should've said it was a meta read from the start tbh.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:30 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 921, Cephrir wrote:I'm really into stoats
I think you meant to post this in your scum PT?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:31 pm
by Tetrina
Infinity and skitter: I think you're both town and wrong :P If I'm right who would be a scum taking advantage of the fight between you?