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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by Datisi
vote count 1.11

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).


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Thor Ragnarok [5]:
Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus, PenguinPower
House [3]:
ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, Harvey and Haley
Miss Midnight [2]:
Thor Ragnarok, Bee
Gamma Emerald [1]:
House
Cat Scratch Fever [1]:
Enchant
Harvey and Haley [1]:
Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:
Something_Smart


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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by PenguinPower
because you never do

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by PenguinPower
foiled by p-edits

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by Bee
In post 896, Enchant wrote:This is Town Thor.

As scum he suddenly turned passive and boring in our game.

I don't believe he would act differently if he is scum from start.
^ This is true. He was having fun and doing his own thing when he was town in this game. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12932079

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by Harvey and Haley
In post 877, Flea The Magician wrote:Meanwhile I can fully agree with house after the gamma spat, using ongoing is a dirty tactic because frankly we can go look for games and it brings OGI into this game. I don't see what the counterwagon has to do with this?

TLDR: Laziness and cruising along.

I see you respond only when prompted. I don't see you following up which is my main beef. You're asking questions, and seemingly doing nothing. It's looking busy while doing nothing.
My original mention of the counterwagon referred to the one on Enchant. At the time he posted, in the same page, there were multiple votes on Enchant, so it was a little odd that he popped in with a Manatee vote without mention of Enchant, the counterwagon.

In most cases where I don't visibly act on responses to me, it's because there's no game-progressing reason to. Again, if you think I'm asking empty questions - shoot me specifics and what kind of follow-up you'd expect with them.
House wrote: I guess you're town!
You're goddamn right I am! Hell yeah!
PenguinPower wrote:Would be cool to see s_s have a vote somewhere....very cool
Literally typed "What would it cost me to have you vote somewhere, Something_Smart" and deleted it :P


-Harvey

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by PenguinPower
2 seconds....damn dats. that was impressive.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by Something_Smart
Oh sick, Flea is town.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 888, Thor Ragnarok wrote:
In post 884, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 870, Titus wrote:Enchant + Thor is a great place to start.
Happy to join you on a Thor train.
This is my playstyle
Odd jump but indulge me.

Why would I be reading you solely on playstyle?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:02 am
by House
In post 896, Enchant wrote:This is Town Thor.

As scum he suddenly turned passive and boring in our game.

I don't believe he would act differently if he is scum from start.
Actually, not a terrible take.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:02 am
by Harvey and Haley
I'm 90% confident Thor is partially memeing and chuckling at how people respond to his posts :lol:

-Harvey

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:02 am
by House
In post 900, Datisi wrote:boop?
You're town!

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:03 am
by Bee
In post 899, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 885, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 880, Flea The Magician wrote:OK this is absolutely busywork and some weird ass BS.
Do you think it's scummy?
I'm starting to lean that way.

I love mech spec, and if you look at the style of games I play I tend to go for mech heavy or bastard games. Looking at the games I've run (all 2 of them - still need an outside reviewer for the second) you can see I love mech weirdness.

If you want me to get down and dirty in the mech here, I can and I will, but the conclsion is always going to be the same. The human element alone here is enough to throw the spec out of the window.

I can tell you what my options were that I was going to choose from, and few people will actually believe me because of how I approach these games.

I was looking at PGO, Vengeful and Universial Backup. I'm not going to say what I actually selected but I was looking at those as I sent my number in.
Wait what does your role and what you wanted have anything to do with this, like, offhandedly bringing this up?

Your vote on Thor was :/ to me because I see him as you in Yin and Yang where everyone jumped on you for not playing the game the same way. What differences do you see in your play there and what’s happening now?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:04 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 904, Harvey and Haley wrote:
In post 877, Flea The Magician wrote:Meanwhile I can fully agree with house after the gamma spat, using ongoing is a dirty tactic because frankly we can go look for games and it brings OGI into this game. I don't see what the counterwagon has to do with this?

TLDR: Laziness and cruising along.

I see you respond only when prompted. I don't see you following up which is my main beef. You're asking questions, and seemingly doing nothing. It's looking busy while doing nothing.
My original mention of the counterwagon referred to the one on Enchant. At the time he posted, in the same page, there were multiple votes on Enchant, so it was a little odd that he popped in with a Manatee vote without mention of Enchant, the counterwagon.

In most cases where I don't visibly act on responses to me, it's because there's no game-progressing reason to. Again, if you think I'm asking empty questions - shoot me specifics and what kind of follow-up you'd expect with them.
-Harvey
I'll go back and have a look at that, and I may not know who you are but I fully know you have the capability to create content and generate it where needed.
Thats why I'm hard-engaging you here. Because I want to squeeze it out of you.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:05 am
by Harvey and Haley
Sheeping Something_Smart
UNVOTE:

-Harvey

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:05 am
by House
In post 913, Harvey and Haley wrote:Sheeping Something_Smart
UNVOTE:

-Harvey
I don't believe you believe that.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:05 am
by Something_Smart
In post 904, Harvey and Haley wrote:Literally typed "What would it cost me to have you vote somewhere, Something_Smart" and deleted it
There is usually not much of a downside to voting, aside from outside quickhammer chances and people assuming the vote indicates a scumread and asking me to justify it.

But I've been asked this before. Usually the reasons are something something wagon analysis something accountability but I've never seen anyone draw any productive information out of a vote that I placed on request.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 am
by Something_Smart
Harvey is Auro right? If so he's just teasing me.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:06 am
by Bee
:< I do like S_S right now too tbh which is weird because I don’t think I know how to read him well.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:07 am
by Something_Smart
You can read me 100% by checking your scum PT and seeing that I am not listed there

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:08 am
by Harvey and Haley
In post 915, Something_Smart wrote:Usually the reasons are something something wagon analysis something accountability but I've never seen anyone draw any productive information out of a vote that I placed on request.
I agree the information gain is little, but your vote would play a part in speeding up the game via pressure - no?

-Harvey (Auro)

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:09 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 764, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 761, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Is there a particular line of questioning you liked?
not really!! i was just skimming their iso and i was like "i like the amount of question marks in here"
that is very surface level :|

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:09 am
by Bee
In post 918, Something_Smart wrote:You can read me 100% by checking your scum PT and seeing that I am not listed there
What’s your read on me?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:10 am
by Something_Smart
I'm not convinced that speeding up the game or pressuring are worthy goals. (This is why I vote so little in the first place.)

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:10 am
by Titus
In post 872, House wrote:
In post 868, Something_Smart wrote:Did it not bother you the first four times he did that?
That shit was setup spec.

I'm less than clueless about setup spec in this game.

Activity theorizing, however, I'm very familiar with. I'm a spammy motherfucker as either alignment and have always been that way, so it's something i see a lot of discussion about.
In post 891, Bee wrote::/

I think voting Thor is a bad idea unless someone has a case other than busywork/not normal content. Like, is the information being put forward actually being used maliciously or anything?
Bee, being spammy with no content is suggestive of scum. We don't need an ironclad case D1 just >rand scum.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:11 am
by Something_Smart
In post 921, Bee wrote:What’s your read on me?
Moderate scum off of draft position + your posts have done nothing to reverse it.