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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:48 pm
by Bingle
In post 896, the worst wrote:if you think I'm scum with Bingle, I guess this probably just looks like some classic worst scumfuckery trying to sneak in a wagon on a third party 8-ball so call my bluff, I guess. whatever you do you.
On the contrary, this reads like you're worried I'll be conftown when you flip red and you're trying to WIFOM that shit.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:48 pm
by Bingle
In post 896, the worst wrote:if you think I'm scum with Bingle, I guess this probably just looks like some classic worst scumfuckery trying to sneak in a wagon on a third party 8-ball so call my bluff, I guess. whatever you do you.
On the contrary, this reads like you're worried I'll be conftown when you flip red and you're trying to WIFOM that shit.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:50 pm
by House
In post 899, the worst wrote:Do you trust me?
I question anyone that thinks another player is more likely to be town than the deviance of their own time pm.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:50 pm
by House
In post 902, House wrote:
In post 899, the worst wrote:Do you trust me?
I question anyone that thinks another player is more likely to be town than the evidence* of their own time pm.
Fix't

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:51 pm
by House
In post 903, House wrote:
In post 902, House wrote:
In post 899, the worst wrote:Do you trust me?
I question anyone that thinks another player is more likely to be town than the evidence* of their own role pm.
Fix't
x2. Damn.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:00 pm
by the worst
In post 902, House wrote:
In post 899, the worst wrote:Do you trust me?
I question anyone that thinks another player is more likely to be town than the deviance of their own time pm.
i question anyone who expects someone else to trust someone who they themselves don't trust even if that person is the other person's self.
:shifty:

memeing aside i did put my list in that order for like, a specific reason though.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:22 pm
by House
... I couldn't follow that.

Whatever.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:06 pm
by the worst
It wasn't a serious response.

I'm acutely aware that if I'm wrong on MT or Bingle I'm probably screwed so read list discreetly signified that.

Do you have anything to add?

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:10 pm
by House
Not until you disclose why you're not the towniest player in your own reads.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:11 pm
by Morning Tweet
Damn I'm going to have to find someone else to 1v1, then

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:13 pm
by Morning Tweet
I didnt see that reconsideraction on Bingle coming

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:14 pm
by the worst
In post 908, House wrote:Not until you disclose why you're not the towniest player in your own reads.
it's a stylistic choice of asserting my position on the gamestate. if i'm wrong on either of {MT,bingle} then i'm sitting on top of a house of cards!! i can't fully explain why i decided to do it in the spur of the moment without like, opening my brain to you. mafia requires an extent of faith and i'm going to ultimately need you to do some of your own thinking about my posting here.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:15 pm
by Morning Tweet
Worstie I was operating from you saying me/Bingle/house were scumminess but you just inverted your reads list so now I dont know what to think

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:16 pm
by Morning Tweet
Well I mean, I think it's SS + imagine/worst. That much I know I think

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:16 pm
by the worst
if i ever become predictable, please hold a hand out in the direction i'm about to walk so as to non-violently and politely donk me on the head.

pedit: that's understandable and my brain is an organism of sheer chaos. did you like our 1v1 theme anyway?

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:19 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 913, Morning Tweet wrote:Well I mean, I think it's SS + imagine/worst. That much I know I think
Why on earth do I decide this is the most effective way to play as scum

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:23 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 915, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 913, Morning Tweet wrote:Well I mean, I think it's SS + imagine/worst. That much I know I think
Why on earth do I decide this is the most effective way to play as scum
Why on earth do you decide this is the most effective way to play as town?

I think having relatively little concern for the 8-ball, as well as not having to share reads, is really conducive to a scum wincon especially when you can use the guise of not wanting scum to game your reads

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:23 pm
by House
In post 911, the worst wrote:
In post 908, House wrote:Not until you disclose why you're not the towniest player in your own reads.
it's a stylistic choice of asserting my position on the gamestate. if i'm wrong on either of {MT,bingle} then i'm sitting on top of a house of cards!! i can't fully explain why i decided to do it in the spur of the moment without like, opening my brain to you. mafia requires an extent of faith and i'm going to ultimately need you to do some of your own thinking about my posting here.
Yeah, I know that. It's just... the times I've seen players list others as townier than them in their own reads, they flipped scum.

Granted, it was years ago, it just still sits with me because that's my experience that has taught me that scum lets their guilty conscience bleed out in unexpected ways.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:24 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 914, the worst wrote:if i ever become predictable, please hold a hand out in the direction i'm about to walk so as to non-violently and politely donk me on the head.

pedit: that's understandable and my brain is an organism of sheer chaos. did you like our 1v1 theme anyway?
I love it and my excitement for the 1v1 we're not partaking in has increased tenfold

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:27 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 916, Morning Tweet wrote:I think having relatively little concern for the 8-ball, as well as not having to share reads, is really conducive to a scum wincon especially when you can use the guise of not wanting scum to game your reads
I don't have little concern for the 8-ball? I'm never going to support killing Bingle, regardless of how I feel about him.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:28 pm
by the worst
current mood on our 1v1 is
HELL
YEAH
no thanks
!!!!
In post 917, House wrote:
In post 911, the worst wrote:
In post 908, House wrote:Not until you disclose why you're not the towniest player in your own reads.
it's a stylistic choice of asserting my position on the gamestate. if i'm wrong on either of {MT,bingle} then i'm sitting on top of a house of cards!! i can't fully explain why i decided to do it in the spur of the moment without like, opening my brain to you. mafia requires an extent of faith and i'm going to ultimately need you to do some of your own thinking about my posting here.
Yeah, I know that. It's just... the times I've seen players list others as townier than them in their own reads, they flipped scum.

Granted, it was years ago, it just still sits with me because that's my experience that has taught me that scum lets their guilty conscience bleed out in unexpected ways.
you can have my philosophy on guilt if you'd like, but without trying to blow my own horn too much? i'm too experienced to let that get through as a guilty conscience slip.

genuinely, hit me about anything game-related you want to talk about. i don't get what you want from me, and it kinda feels like you're just trying to justify a read you don't have much confidence on.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:32 pm
by Morning Tweet
Well this is gonna be more annoying than I previously anticipated!!!!!

I agree with you that Bingle is seriously town, worst.

House, your reasoning for scumreading worstie might make more sense on a D1 when there's less to work with, but in this current context I don't think a guilty conscience read is something I'd put much weight in. What do you think about worst's posting last page -- particularly about Bingle and the 1v1 and all that

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:35 pm
by the worst
In post 921, Morning Tweet wrote:Well this is gonna be more annoying than I previously anticipated!!!!!

I agree with you that Bingle is seriously town, worst.

House, your reasoning for scumreading worstie might make more sense on a D1 when there's less to work with, but in this current context I don't think a guilty conscience read is something I'd put much weight in. What do you think about worst's posting last page -- particularly about Bingle and the 1v1 and all that
fwiw scum!me still needs to acknowledge that he's in trouble and either
- tank the 1v1 with Bingle because I'm the 8ball and can venge him.
- divert off the 1v1 into an unrelated 8ball regardless of my partner.
- divert attention off the 1v1 and :pray:

So please be super careful about townreading me just over me reevaluating. Just letting you know I'm here to play, and I'm fluid - not tunnelling.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:49 pm
by Morning Tweet
It's true, I suppose from when you joked about me being scum, and also had a Bingle/me/house scumbloc, and also the whole bingle push, I figured you were going to double down and we were gonna fite

Now it's more complicated than that

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:55 pm
by the worst
i wouldn't say "joke" is quite right. that's more in line with my d1 reads. i realised i wasn't actually confident on bingle a few days ago, realised you were probably town yesterday but it felt more intuitive to commit to the bit until i could actually post a bit, and see how things shook out. did the ISOs properly earlier today.