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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:37 pm
by cyrus62
In post 897, Loftwing wrote:Bus drivver was on Bingel and Me, not Mama Roo and Enchant. I know this for a fact.
I don't think you get it. Your actions still go though but your targets get switch.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:40 pm
by Mama Ru
I am fabulous, so your calculations are wrong. Try again.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:51 pm
by cyrus62
How ever loft said he blocked ma and ma claimd to have been blocked unles loft and ma are blue scum. And they came up with this last night. Since a roleblock can visit a pgo is they block the,

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:03 pm
by Quiet Owl
Going to copy and paste from the wiki.
"any night action performed on a switched player will affect the other player targeted by the Bus Driver."
"For example, suppose a Bus Driver switches John and Jack. That same night, a roleblocker tries to block John and a Goon tries to kill Jack. In the end, Jack will be roleblocked and John will be killed."


We assume that Loft and Bingle were switched. Loft targeted Mama Ru. Bingle targeted Enchant. The bus drive cannot alter Loft and Bingle's targets.
Save The Dragons targeted Loft. However, because Bingle and Loft were switched, Save The Dragons tracked Bingle to Enchant. Anyone who targeted Bingle would have gotten the result for Loft.

A bus drive would not cause Loft to target Enchant, or Bingle to target Mama Ru. Continuing to perpetuate this falsehood is anti-town.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:09 pm
by Save The Dragons
Oh

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:10 pm
by Bingle
Image

Actions, as claimed and reasonably explained.

Ru's action failed on Dwlee, either because Loft blocked her or because Dwlee killed PirateInuyasha. (Or Both)

Enchant ambushed monochromatic anime girl with all of the guns, and shot me. Luckly, Christopher angry ears Eccleston, our resident Doctor, and a badger who is inordinately concerned with the persecution of dragons were on a bus to stop birds from getting all up in Mama's hair. Seeing me bleeding out on the side of the road, CE saved my life and STD told everyone I'd been headed to Enchant's house. Naturally, they didn't have time to protect Ru from the birds.

Miss Frizzle, of course, was driving the bus, but she was wearing a QO mask. We do not as yet know if this is because Miss Frizzle actually is an angry owl with a knife or if the Angry Owl with the knife merely happened to give her the mask.

Dwlee says they stayed home all night, presumably practicing that sick deadpan into the mirror in order to prevent giving away any hints as to their emotions today.

Cyrus, Strange and the Dragon our badger friend wants to prevent the persecution of are very private individuals and have not at this time made any noise about what they were up to last night.

Of these, none of the actions really have a motive behind lying or they have corroborating evidence that things actually did turn out this way. That means it's very likely that Dunn's killer is in the set of {Cyrus/Strange/Dragon/Dwlee}. If Dwlee is scum, it's more likely that Loft is their partner than anyone else, as Loft's claim reduces the impact of the circumstantial evidence that Dwlee was scum. Loft flipping RB, consequently, reinforces that the failure of Ru's action wasn't particularly likely to have been caused by Dunn.

Untangling this further isn't a great idea today. I'm satisfied with this phase and coming back to the puzzle with more information/confirmations of abilities.

VOTE: Enchant

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:14 pm
by Loftwing
In post 900, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 897, Loftwing wrote:Bus drivver was on Bingel and Me, not Mama Roo and Enchant. I know this for a fact.
I don't think you get it. Your actions still go though but your targets get switch.
No, that's false.

Anyone targeting one of us would swap to the other.

If I target Mama Ru and Bingle targets Enchant, a bus driver swaps up, and STD targets me, they would see that "I" targeted Enchant, when in reality I targeted Mama Ru.

Bus Drivers don't swap the targets of the players they target, or else Bingle would be very confused here, and Enchant wouldn't have killed.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:17 pm
by Loftwing
Also, I don't think that Dweelee killed anyone here. It's not a hard clear, but they di'n't do no murderin''

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:35 pm
by Save The Dragons
VOTE: Enchant

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:49 pm
by Bingle
In post 907, Loftwing wrote:Also, I don't think that Dweelee killed anyone here. It's not a hard clear, but they di'n't do no murderin''
There is absolutely no mechanical basis for this, based solely on what has already been claimed. Note: this is not an invitation to other people to claim more, we can figure it out tomorrow when Dwlee's elimination is actually on the metaphorical chopping block and we have more information in the first place.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:53 pm
by Bingle
If I get driven again tonight I'd prefer it isn't with Ru. I expect she's the next most likely NK based on crumbs and I would 100% doc there if I were a doc.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:20 pm
by Loftwing
In post 909, Bingle wrote:
In post 907, Loftwing wrote:Also, I don't think that Dweelee killed anyone here. It's not a hard clear, but they di'n't do no murderin''
There is absolutely no mechanical basis for this, based solely on what has already been claimed. Note: this is not an invitation to other people to claim more, we can figure it out tomorrow when Dwlee's elimination is actually on the metaphorical chopping block and we have more information in the first place.

I actually rolled 15 different Double modifiers, so I acted 16 different times last night /s

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:22 pm
by Loftwing
VOTE: Enchant

Actually, Enchant is not a Serial Killer, or else they have lied by omission.

Die, Scumb!

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:33 pm
by Bingle
In post 911, Loftwing wrote:I actually rolled 15 different Double modifiers, so I acted 16 different times last night /s
Shoulda been a vig.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:41 pm
by Bingle
In post 910, Bingle wrote:If I get driven again tonight I'd prefer it isn't with Ru. I expect she's the next most likely NK based on crumbs and I would 100% doc there if I were a doc.
Actually, bus driver, you can ignore this. It occurs to me that aiming a bus drive at me to try to turn the NK into a vigshot works better if scum doesn't know if you're targeting someone towny or scummy.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:42 pm
by Bingle
In post 912, Loftwing wrote:Actually, Enchant is not a Serial Killer, or else they have lied by omission.
What lie?

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:48 pm
by Loftwing
Look over the rules again, specifically the alignment stuff.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:46 pm
by Bingle
In post 767, Enchant wrote:My second role roll was Complex Serial Killer (actually i rolled Complex Vigilante, but SK can't be Vigilante here), but i obviously didn't choose it.
This part?

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:47 pm
by Dwlee99
Enchant is just scum tho

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:48 pm
by Dwlee99
Bingle you don't know my role unless you do which impressive cause I don't think I crumbed

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:48 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 905, Bingle wrote:Dwlee says they stayed home all night, presumably practicing that sick deadpan into the mirror in order to prevent giving away any hints as to their emotions today
This is funny

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:49 pm
by Loftwing
In post 917, Bingle wrote:
In post 767, Enchant wrote:My second role roll was Complex Serial Killer (actually i rolled Complex Vigilante, but SK can't be Vigilante here), but i obviously didn't choose it.
This part?

Ah, nevermimd.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:30 pm
by Enchant
Enchant ambushed monochromatic anime girl with all of the guns
Anime deserved it.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:38 pm
by Enchant
In post 887, Save The Dragons wrote:god i hate this some else solve this for me

i'm a tracker.

i tracked loftwing to enchant.

1. why is loftwing alive if enchant is a PGO?
2. why did ssbm die if loftwing is a RB?
3. why did mama ru claim roleblock if loftwing didn't target mama ru?
4. i don't fucking know how bus driver works, so i guess loftwing got bus driven but if so, why am i so confused, is loftwing just straight up lying?
Welp! Seems like Loft lying.

You really don't need my help, scum trying to dig self.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:40 pm
by Enchant
In post 912, Loftwing wrote:VOTE: Enchant

Actually, Enchant is not a Serial Killer, or else they have lied by omission.

Die, Scumb!
See ya in dead PT after day, college.