Mini Normal 2248 | A Member Of The Arsonists | Town wins

[Pan Smierc]

could have fooled me

ok touche

that made me chuckle bc kinda true

[Pan Smierc]

@egix when you see this can you link any sort of scumgame in a non-theme game if you can? I just wanna like double check I'm right - I am still fairly sure you are town I just wanna remove doubt

[DArby]

I was the target of the neighborizor btw

I don’t trust this.

Ok and?

Ok and I don’t want you to weasel your way into saying your a confirmed role without question.

[DArby]

I was the target of the neighborizor btw

I don’t trust this.

Why not?

Reasons.

[Pan Smierc]

I claimed miller day 1.
I am not a confirmed role - I am the confirmed TARGET of a role.

Unless you think I am scum who is making this up and:

a) roleblocked the person I am killing(happens in mafia games but not in Normal ones!)
b) was rolestopped and magically guessed ben's target was me and am risking a cc

or I am town who is lying about being successfully neighborized
a) big braining that scum did roleblock their kill for whatever reason
b) big braining that i was both rolestopped and targeted by ben

now PLEASE stop this terribad logic about my neighborized claim

[Gamma Emerald]

You clearly didn't since you didnt apologize for accusing me of lying

I don't remember changing my read on you.

You and darby can have fun tossing this game tbh im not arguing against you im just gonna disprove whatever you throw at me like you are now and carry you(once again)

K, how about you find me an actual example where the PT goes through even though the slot dies. That's all you have to do to change my mind.

you're saying pan shouldn't have been added because ben was killed right? imo that's a grey area that's up to the mod

[Pan Smierc]

You clearly didn't since you didnt apologize for accusing me of lying

I don't remember changing my read on you.

You and darby can have fun tossing this game tbh im not arguing against you im just gonna disprove whatever you throw at me like you are now and carry you(once again)

K, how about you find me an actual example where the PT goes through even though the slot dies. That's all you have to do to change my mind.

you're saying pan shouldn't have been added because ben was killed right? imo that's a grey area that's up to the mod

no its not in the normal queue lmao

you're just trying to fuel the fire here

nowhere in the role does it say that deaths prevent the action from succeeding



does a doc being killed prevent that doc from saving its target? does a fruit vendor being killed prevent the fruit from being delivered? does a mailman being killed prevent mail from being delivered?
no.

so why are you saying there is a grey area?

wanna cite that game gamma?
i am very sure you are just trying to instigate and are not actually being honest about it to help this TvT fest

[Gamma Emerald]

NAR dictates that if a CL is killed that their action from that night isn't counted. CLs can't exist in normal games but the same NAR principles apply
so depending on where "neighborize" sits in NAR should dictate what happens, actually

[Pan Smierc]

Copy
Hide
Bus Drive
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous < neighborize
Kill < mafia kill
Recruit < cult
Inspect

hey look i figured it out for u

[Pan Smierc]

so where did the grey area come up?

wanna explain?

VOTE: gamma

also revoting bc im annoyed and i honestly think just getting rid of scum is more useful for this gamestate before people start changing minds in the wrong direction

[Gamma Emerald]

cool
now let LQ speak up for himself instead of being a dick!

[Gamma Emerald]

so where did the grey area come up?

wanna explain?

VOTE: gamma

also revoting bc im annoyed and i honestly think just getting rid of scum is more useful for this gamestate before people start changing minds in the wrong direction

it came up because I'm lazy-brain amd didn't think "hey NAR should provide a clear explanation for whether this should be the case or not"

[T3]

I was the target of the neighborizor btw

I don’t trust this.

Why not?

Reasons.

Darby is town

[Pan Smierc]

I was the target of the neighborizor btw

I don’t trust this.

Why not?

Reasons.

Darby is town

holy shit i just realized what he was referencing bc you quoted it lmao now i get it and understandable LOL

[Pan Smierc]

but nah thats not the case here

[redtea]

Mini Normal 2248 Official Vote Count - 2.2

Gamma Emerald

(3): T3, DArby, Pan Smierc

Pan Smierc

(1): LicketyQuickety

Not Voting

(5): Save The Dragons, Egix96, Gamma Emerald, Enchant, Not_Mafia

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-11-26 19:00:00)

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[redtea]

Here is a link to the Night Action Resolution system used by all Normal Games.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ormal_Game

[LicketyQuickety]

Mini Normal 2248 Official Vote Count - 2.2

Gamma Emerald

(2): T3, DArby

Pan Smierc

(1): LicketyQuickety

Gamma Emerald

(1): Pan Smierc

Not Voting

(5): Save The Dragons, Egix96, Gamma Emerald, Enchant, Not_Mafia

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-11-26 19:00:00)

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@Mod

There are two places Pan is being voted.
VOTE: Gamma

[LicketyQuickety]

but nah thats not the case here

This is the reason for my Gamma vote.

[LicketyQuickety]

StD Pan LQ
T3 Darby
NM Egix Enchant
Gamma Meg

Okay, Gamma is just Scum here.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: gamma emerald
whatever, this game is basically filled with gamethrowing assholes
let this serve as a reminder to never replace into a game blind because it's fucking miserable

[LicketyQuickety]

I’d expect 2 scum or 3 with 1 being a traitor
I have no real PoE set up as of yet

i dont care if its not a real PoE, post what you feel now. I want to be able to draw progression for you because I know that is somewhere you struggle to fake as scum.

You, Meg, DArby town, StD and NM possible scum
That’s basically what I’ve got rn

Compare this to bens RL.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: gamma emerald
whatever, this game is basically filled with gamethrowing assholes
let this serve as a reminder to never replace into a game blind because it's fucking miserable

Gamma used AtE. It's not very effective.

[LicketyQuickety]

Oh, Gamma just self hammered. Well, it can't be Pan then. I'm also clearing T3. Darby possible Scum, but StD also probably Town via Ben. Else, Enchant has high Scum equity as well.

[LicketyQuickety]

And NM is... well, NM is NM.