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Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:50 pm**

In post 899, The Bombay wrote:
In post 898, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:if Ivan's scum, what's the motivation in making me confirmed town?
I can think of one.

And what's that, he's scum with me?

So we kill 2 townies today and tomorrow and then neither of us are shot at all

and then people kill Ivan and or me and realize "well there's scum there, let's kill the others"

and the plan falls apart?

lmfao

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:53 pm**

I think I'd rather kill Bombay today that Suripoko at this point. I think they're both scum but this Bombay posting is really reading like desperation. Like they know if this happens as stated and becomes accepted they're fucked.

And that desperationn makes me more confident they're scum.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm**

Desperation? Please sit down, that implies I'm actually scared of you, which I'm not.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:23 pm**

In post 902, The Bombay wrote:Desperation? Please sit down, that implies I'm actually scared of you, which I'm not.

You don't need to be scared to be desperate. I've been desperate before. Stop acting like you're some kind of fucking arrogant god of this game.

I've been desperate to avoid situations are scum plenty of times. This would be one for scum you. An accepted confirmed town me is essentially death for you. You've seen my reads.

God are you always gonna be this arrogant of a prick when I make an observation about your behaviour?

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:23 pm**

Like jesus fucking christ what the fuck is wrong with you

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:25 pm**

"SHE SAID A COMMENT ABOUT MY BEHAVIOUR AND IT MUST BE A CHALLENGE TO MY COMPETENCY. I'M THE BEST, I'LL TALK DOWN TO HER AND ACT REALLY SHITTY ASSUMING I KNOW WHAT SHE MEANT!"

fucks sakes

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:31 pm**

i'm so fucking done

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:52 pm**

Maybe I am arrogant actually, it's just something that comes out whenever I get super tunneled on I guess.

I had something typed out, but in my opinion it isn't all that helpful to this game, and will probably just egg on a bigger and more toxic fight so I won't post that, I value you more than that.

~Hope you aren't too angry~ But I do genuinely suspect you and That Idiot Ivan to be scum.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:55 pm**

In post 902, The Bombay wrote:Desperation? Please sit down, that implies I'm actually scared of you, which I'm not.

I did not know that Marci could be this snarky.

Spoiler:

-Luke

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:01 pm**

Marci is super duper, extreme levels of convinced that LLD is scum. Like, I just had 25 messages on discord from her about it.

I am pretty sure that Ivan has to be scum. I want to call LLD scum too, but I have also seen her be this surprisingly confidently wrong before as town. And I have never actually encountered her as scum.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:09 pm**

I am willing to agree to kill Ivan tomorrow if you flip town.

You die today, we kill Ivan tomorrow if you're town.

You should be good with that, given you're making it a 1v1 at this point right?

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:21 pm**

No thanks.

Volunteering myself to die so that my reads will be sheeped later has never been my cup of tea. Closest I have come before has been to offer myself up to die if I was wrong.

So instead, let's kill Ivan, and when he flips scum I will be basically confirmed town, and we can go from there.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:30 pm**

That's not happening today.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm**

Won't stop me from trying.

I am like 95% sure Ivan just flips scum here, but even in the case that I am wrong, his flip would actually confirm you and Shiro.

Both of those options seem infinitely better then accepting my own miselimination.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:52 pm**

In post 910, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I am willing to agree to kill Ivan tomorrow if you flip town.

You die today, we kill Ivan tomorrow if you're town.

You should be good with that, given you're making it a 1v1 at this point right?

Actually, thinking about this. This is a wild offer for you to make.

You seem so convinced that him parity copping you proves he is town. What about my town flip is going to 180 your stance on him?

Unless you agree that 3 investigatives firing night one is too much? So seeing my investigative flip will change your mind?

Please tell me why my town flip would change your read on Ivan.

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:55 pm**

In post 909, The Bombay wrote:Marci is super duper, extreme levels of convinced that LLD is scum. Like, I just had 25 messages on discord from her about it.

I am pretty sure that Ivan has to be scum. I want to call LLD scum too, but I have also seen her be this surprisingly confidently wrong before as town. And I have never actually encountered her as scum.

If they are scum why pick me for that gambit?

It generally seems like a bad gambit and their interaction in our neighborhood seems genuine as hell. They have 2 pages without me with backforth and forth about reads and what to do.

I cant see a world that both of them are scum.

Thn only person taht can ever be scum in there is Ivan and that is highly highly unlikely

Posted: **Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:05 pm**

In post 892, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 890, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 889, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 888, StrangeMatter wrote:Actually, Shiro can you confirm that you were in a neighborhood with LLD and Ivan? Kind of want an answer since I'm rethinking and found this to be potentially a bad paranoia.
You think Ivan and I would walk into this thread and Lie about Shiro being in the thread because we're... what, suicidal?
Honestly I wouldn't put it past anyone here in this game to make plays as such, but in all honesty, I don't think so anymore.
No but think ahead a few steps. If we lie about this... and shiro get into the thread.. and sees it.... what happens?

Just imagine someone doing something so bad though xD

Scunteam be like:
Scum 1:Wanna out ourselves by pretending to be in a pt with someone that isn't in the pt?
Scum 2: How does that help our goal?
Scum 1: It doesn't
Scum 2:Seems solid let's do it.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:24 am**

VOTE: T3

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:32 am**

In post 776, mastina wrote:
In post 685, SirCakez wrote:Ok but regardless of whose to blame that hammer still sucked
Note this wording, too.
'still sucked'.

If Suripoko were scum, the hammer would not have sucked--it'd be Suripoko playing to wincon.

A hammer sucking implies the hammerer is the same alignment of the player being hammered--town.

Both Ivan and SirCakez have used words with zero connotations to scumminess/scumness of the slot and which actually have the opposite connotation--implying Suripoko to be town.

Coincidence?

I think not!

There's a damn good reason I think they're both scum here.

what no that's obviously not what I was saying
Suripoko being scum does not make the hammer good?? maybe from their PoV but I'm not in their PoV

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:33 am**

Ivan could be scum

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:35 am**

the bombay's posting today is transparently town

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:36 am**

In post 826, That Idiot Ivan wrote:Fuck it, let's see what this does.

My role allowed a neighborhood to form with two other players last night that persists into today. By foregoing posting there until night ended, I was able to get a parity cop result on the other two players. LLD and Shiro share an alignment.

They were informed when the neighborhood formed that someone could be reading along. That someone was me. Based on the interactions and information shared over night phase and so far this day phase, they're very likely both town rather than both scum. I can elaborate later, but I think I'd like to let the thread marinate in this situation first.

ah I buy it

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:38 am**

Oh hi Cakez. If you want to chat when you're caught up that may be a thing.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:40 am**

In post 857, jjh927 wrote:I will say this is massively +scum for suripoko because the floor just rose dramatically

uh huh so get on the wagon

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:41 am**

In post 866, The Bombay wrote:I'm struggling to believe in the parity cop.

We are an investigative, which is why we knew we were roleblocked. We didn't get a result.

I do not believe that the mods would have allowed us + Dwlee's cop + a parity cop to all fire night one.

I think I want to kill Ivan, but going to talk to Marci before I move our vote.

I'm pretty sure his claim means he is scum.

If he does flip town, then that would actually confirm Shiro and LLD.

this is so bad why would we lim Ivan here?

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