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In post 886, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel pretty certain Mercia/Frog never flips scum so i should probably use that as my basis.
VOTE: Progowoshua
I’ll join you here.

In post 901, ofmercia wrote:

In post 886, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel pretty certain Mercia/Frog never flips scum so i should probably use that as my basis.
VOTE: Progowoshua
I’ll join you here.

Why not strange then. Since fwog voted there now.

In post 904, Frogsterking wrote:Okay, why can't I be a townie who misreads you Progo?

In post 906, ProgoWoshua wrote:Process of elimination. I believe both scum is in [Frog, fwog, Strange]. The only other possibility is that fwog is reverse bussing Strange.

In post 379, fwogcarf wrote:

In post 375, Frogsterking wrote:Yes what you've said is true fwog and I actually scum read enough of your reactions to be willing to double down on you now fwog. I think you have a like 50% chance to flip scum which is great expected value for town on D1.

Hm, no.

Here is the problem I have with some of your reads. First off you never answered my question when I asked how I, specifically, was scummier than Kitty. Along the way you continue to talk about the two of us in a couple of short posts that don't say anything. You've linked a couple posts describing that they had more content than the "positions" we've taken. Why is this? And then right after that you say "I don't like how Fwog/Kitty put just enough effort to get townread and are posed with their outted scumreads on town limbait". There is so much wrong with this statement. Number one, of course you put in effort, that's usually how a lot of people get townread day 1. Look at Tist with his wordy posts, look at Norwegian with the amount of posts they've made. Then you look at someone like yourself/Auto/StrangeMatter who haven't made a whole lot of posts/put a whole lot of words in them. The top posters managed to get themselves out of mostly consensus PoE for today (because I know some people don't like Tist, which is fine). Specifically the "outted scumread" part is pinging me because you're discouraging me from making a scumread on someone who you think is town. I'm allowed to have my own opinions about people in the game, and in this case, I think Auto is scum. I'll get to that in a minute

Second off, your limbait reads aren't good reads. Your explanation for Auto being town is because he "doesn't post much" and is "paranoid of a popular town read". The second reason for that is fine, but the first one isn't. How does it make sense for someone like Auto to be town in your eyes because he doesn't post much, while someone like me is, in your words "50% to flip scum", with a decent amount of posts? I get that I don't put words in my posts but that's just how I play. I'm not a wordy type of guy unless I absolutely need to be.

Third off is the post where you say "You have a 50% chance to flip scum, which is great expected value for town" itself. If you're really relying on self calculated RNG more than your own intuition and logic thinking then you need to change your game up a bit because that's not how mafia works. You and Tist can calculate all the probabilities you want but at the end of the day, the game is about deception, not probability. In that same post you say "I scumread a lot of your reactions to be willing to double down on you" Ok, what reactions pinged you? Which ones were scummier than others?

In post 910, Frogsterking wrote:216 and 695 the reasoning for your townread on Kitty is garbage. They both can be summarized as "Kitty would do [post x] as mafia or as town. I have decided Kitty is town."

If you can't rule out Kitty as scum then you can't claim to scum read me by PoE.

In post 909, ProgoWoshua wrote:I had completely forgotten about that whole thing in Day 1. You're right, Frog + fwog is unthinkable.

In post 906, ProgoWoshua wrote:Process of elimination. I believe both scum is in [Frog, fwog, Strange]. The only other possibility is that fwog is reverse bussing Strange.

In post 917, ofmercia wrote:

In post 906, ProgoWoshua wrote:Process of elimination. I believe both scum is in [Frog, fwog, Strange]. The only other possibility is that fwog is reverse bussing Strange.

Frog is town, it's fwog/strange/kitty

In post 914, Frogsterking wrote:I'm trying to imagine a world where 75

clears

Kitty. It's even more difficult to imagine than Kitty hard-townreading Strange.

In post 918, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 917, ofmercia wrote:

In post 906, ProgoWoshua wrote:Process of elimination. I believe both scum is in [Frog, fwog, Strange]. The only other possibility is that fwog is reverse bussing Strange.

Frog is town, it's fwog/strange/kitty

I think he knows dude, he doesn't care. He unironically has townread Kitty all game for 75. Like by saying he's using PoE he's saying he's sure of Frog+fwog because of 75 which indicates Progo has an agenda.

In post 919, ofmercia wrote:

In post 914, Frogsterking wrote:I'm trying to imagine a world where 75

clears

Kitty. It's even more difficult to imagine than Kitty hard-townreading Strange.

The problem is 75 is not clearing kitty from scum, but clearing an accusation instead.

Look at it like this. In 216, progo says kitty's defense on his intend/pretend slip comes in at post 86 (which is late and already been dissolved) so

look like it could be scum waiting

.

Then progo shows 75 which

clears kitty from the underlined above accusation.

In post 920, ofmercia wrote:

In post 918, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 917, ofmercia wrote:

In post 906, ProgoWoshua wrote:Process of elimination. I believe both scum is in [Frog, fwog, Strange]. The only other possibility is that fwog is reverse bussing Strange.

Frog is town, it's fwog/strange/kitty

I think he knows dude, he doesn't care. He unironically has townread Kitty all game for 75. Like by saying he's using PoE he's saying he's sure of Frog+fwog because of 75 which indicates Progo has an agenda.

Fwog IS red here. Your strong defense of him is making it look like you're the partner so I get where he's coming from. But to me I can see you vs progo being TvT.

In post 909, ProgoWoshua wrote:I had completely forgotten about that whole thing in Day 1. You're right, Frog + fwog is unthinkable.