Datisi's Café [game over!]

[PenguinPower]

boy there's like 3 left

[PenguinPower]

fuck - should have hammered at the pagetop

[Vivax]

Vibe control is spelling disaster, but who knows

[Lukewarm]

So you pointed out Ircher's mistake first? I think. But you only voted when Peta had to make you vote. Then it was a joke vote, but...

But you're still voting Ircher are you not? Occasionally popping in to question people who townread you.

I feel like the first bit was already pretty well explained. Why I did not vote the moment I saw the thing that pinged me. Why I voted when I did. Why I played it off as a joke (despite it never actually being a joke vote). And why my vote is still there - after his return to the thread, it is my desire is for Ircher to die today.

So it does feel like you are not genuinely engaging with me, so I think I'll stop responding to you today

[Vivax]

So you pointed out Ircher's mistake first? I think. But you only voted when Peta had to make you vote. Then it was a joke vote, but...

But you're still voting Ircher are you not? Occasionally popping in to question people who townread you.

I feel like the first bit was already pretty well explained. Why I did not vote the moment I saw the thing that pinged me. Why I voted when I did. Why I played it off as a joke (despite it never actually being a joke vote). And why my vote is still there - after his return to the thread, it is my desire is for Ircher to die today.

So it does feel like you are not genuinely engaging with me, so I think I'll stop responding to you today

Fair enough. But you were just playing the receiving end, what kind of engaging is that?
Noticeable lack of usual tingles though

[fireisredsir]

i don't get why you question me, gets answers, ignore them, and then shift your vote from me to titus after ydrasse unvotes me

it's like you want to engage but then when you actually receive answers, you just go to something else while still throwing shade, like keeping your options open?

"idk why people think uncrowned is town because ive looked at his scumplay, but it also looks like his townplay" or whatever. it's just constant hedging and has been a theme of your play this game. your actual solidified reads are few and far between and it seems like you're leaving doors open to keep your play flexible, something i'd attribute much more as +scum. maybe it's the low confidence thing you're talking about, but this seems awfully non-committal

what

i thought your answers were fine and didn't continue to engage with them bc i thought they were fine and i didn't have anything further to say

i then voted elsewhere bc i thought you had been fine since then

i don't particularly scumread you anymore but i don't really understand the townreads either. you seem solidly in range of both alignments to me. there's some stuff that feels genuine, and some stuff that feels off

so... ??

i don't get what the issue is here. why is it weird that i unvoted you after not engaging with your answers? are you saying that you would have found it less weird if i continued voting you after not engaging with your answers? bc i don't believe that

[fireisredsir]

it kinda seems like her thoughts are surface level intended to sound reasonable tho? like she hasn't said anything super out there it's just that they don't feel like they quite click into a consistent mindset, like luke was saying

it's like you see opportunities to make comments but then not provided much follow up? like the titus vote in general doesn't feel super convincing

also, couldn't we apply this same logic to you? what makes your two slots different? up until your vote on her, you had very little to say about her so what changed? from what i'm aware of, her main string of posting had already occurred before your vote on me, and you didn't have a lot to say then

i was responding to a specific meta point that someone made, idk why it would apply to me

i had thought about her a bit previously but it wasn't my focus

i just am really confused what you're getting at with these posts and it's hard not to view them as very reach-y. i don't understand the issues that you seem to be having with my play

[fireisredsir]

I'd say Luke displays some characteristics you'd associate with a martyr mindset, but according to some, feeling of guilt being scum-indicative is somewhat of an unbased rumour

i think his responses to you do have a sort of self-focus to them? idk how to describe. insistence on being understood, maybe

anyway, it's p in line with what ive seen from town luke and i lean that way so far. i haven't seen scum luke in person tho, only from a distance

[Vivax]

I'd say Luke displays some characteristics you'd associate with a martyr mindset, but according to some, feeling of guilt being scum-indicative is somewhat of an unbased rumour

i think his responses to you do have a sort of self-focus to them? idk how to describe. insistence on being understood, maybe

anyway, it's p in line with what ive seen from town luke and i lean that way so far. i haven't seen scum luke in person tho, only from a distance

I understand Luke, but also that their position wasn‘t an independent one. Lots of pressure to act quickly, it seems.
Time will tell, but I feel there‘s a good roster of hesitating people around Ircher. A town flip would throw my perception around though.

[fireisredsir]

i had a thought that scum peta prob doesn't make 439 about scum penguin and town peta is probably correct. klick also had him as top townread

so penguin can be town

[fireisredsir]

Time will tell, but I feel there‘s a good roster of hesitating people around Ircher. A town flip would throw my perception around though.

i thought we were waiting for bluebloodedtoffee to make an appearance and that's why there hasn't been a hammer yet

[Vivax]

Time will tell, but I feel there‘s a good roster of hesitating people around Ircher. A town flip would throw my perception around though.

i thought we were waiting for bluebloodedtoffee to make an appearance and that's why there hasn't been a hammer yet

Eh, I was waiting for something else, but interference will prevent it. I don‘t have reasons left to play this game, should just use them for a story. But the distant memory will stick.

[Nero Cain]

my unabated tinfoil is that scum are trying to rush d1 b4 town understand/talk about mechanics. I also really hate mech focused games.

[Nero Cain]

for the love of Mith, stop scum reading me, Andre. FFS

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse how do you feel about your wagon

Trewly i do not care

Since when do you not care about votes on you? Or engaging with the people voting you? I just don’t remember you posting like this when we’ve played in the past. Do I have it wrong? Like why the nonchalance? I usually get irritated when I’m read wrongly and people get all stubborn about it. I remember you caring a bit. What happened? Is there anything specific to this game?

it depends

sometimes i really sensitive sometimes im not

when it early wagon with no reasoning i dont care because it will go away eventually or something shinier pop up because i very very rarely sound awkward or pressured or upset to ppl. tone game good
means less stress as both alignments

only when i more invested or trying harder do i get angery

[Nero Cain]

genuinely enjoy accusing others of lying or not making sense and getting screamed at in return.

I've played with some that prob think that way.

I’m of the opinion that you would have seen Scum be more obvious about the assumption to try and avoid it being interpreted as a slip

would be funny if Ircher was just town that unknowingly "slipped" and the scum are voting him b/c they think he knows too much about the setup.

Hahaha okay. I think you’re Scum doubling down on a bad take.

I think that if he's scum his intention is to antagonize and annoy you. Or maybe I'm the one being dumb b/c I have a very very hard time believing that he actually thinks this.

Wit that said, Ircher is the type of scum that’s willing to take a bullet for a partner. So I don’t think Titus’ argument that Irchers wagon sprung up to divert from someone else is merit-less.

You think Ircher deliberately baited a wagon on himself? How?

this is a dumb post and totes not what he said.

If anything, Mastina is bussing him.

[Vivax]

Wit that said, Ircher is the type of scum that’s willing to take a bullet for a partner. So I don’t think Titus’ argument that Irchers wagon sprung up to divert from someone else is merit-less.

No, it is meritless because there was no wagon to divert from.

I don’t agree that it makes you/SS 1 or 2 scum. Though I do think there is scum between you.

[Titus]

my unabated tinfoil is that scum are trying to rush d1 b4 town understand/talk about mechanics. I also really hate mech focused games.

Normally I'd agree but I can't see talking about much that would help us and not give useful info to scum. There are a few different roles I could think of with this mechanic that could counter things.

[Nero Cain]

Who are u?

[Vivax]

Who are u?

Mark my words, I won‘t rest until all of you have caterpillars crawling out of your eyecorners while reading my posts, spit your beverages and buy my farts in a jar for 5k

[Vivax]

Bwoody hel

Uncrowned cracks me up at times, slows my rereads the brown panda

[Nero Cain]

How come RNG is so cruel and wouldn't grant me bullets? I'd give petapans left foot to see a dead Vivax

[Nero Cain]

maybe if I set all my productivity to find it will help me find a gun

[Vivax]

How come RNG is so cruel and wouldn't grant me bullets? I'd give petapans left foot to see a dead Vivax

Tis a disarmed country, sir

[Nero Cain]

I always ally with Zagreb in Civ.