Death Curse

[MURDERCAT]

Also if Bell were scum he would have insta hard pushed me and probably would have been setting it up earlier than that, please don't shoot him.

[Fidget]

Fidgy I would always read everything you type <3 you are my scroll partner

WE WILL DO THIS TOGETHER

Oh, alright then! I would get drunk with you at deadline for maximum effect, but underage.

I’m not sure if we should just dogpile on Noraa now or just have a gentle beings agreement to give them the scroll later. Though I think the latter could be a problem in getting situated with good reads and atmosphere.

no this is fence-sitting

I love the bell-noraa push

VOTE: noraa

I know scum!noraa, this is exactly like them. self awareness, overdefensiveness instead of reads, cautiousness instead of stubborness

This is Shelly's first post about Noraa. Noraa already had 8 votes and was currently being overwhelmingly favored by the entire thread. So all that "Noraa conf!scum" stuff Bell and I quoted were, hilariously enough, her first interactions with Noraa. I am reminded of why I scumread shelly so much.

Is that exactly what shelly would do if Noraa is scum and none of her partners are currently voting Noraa? Yes. Would shelly do it if Noraa is town too? Maybe.

Is this the kind of thing that gets a scum player propelled insanely late into a game? Being intended as a bus target but actually ending up UNO-reverse-carding their entire fucking team? But none of them actually voted Noraa, they took a hands-off approach with the exception of shelly who

conveniently enough

started setting up the people voting Noraa as Noraa's partners while

for whatever reason

trying to hard distance from Noraa.

[Fidget]

Fidget I'm signing off for the night. Assess me honestly, if you think I'm scum so be it. But keep looking at Noraa too. Look at what her real paranoia towards me looks like on D1 of 2170. She is somehow not pushing me at all, it's all about Bell. She setup the paranoia towards bell and me and then went whichever way you felt Pooky. Notice she's not panicking that you are suddenly aren't doing what you said you would do when you targeted bell? Cool as a cucumber. Does that sound like town Noraa to you?

Oh shit. I can't think of a single post Noraa has made that suggests she is concerned about which one of you is picked.

Okay, I actually checked - yes, she thinks you both have equal odds but has mostly been pointing out stuff related to Bell. But she says Murder is scummy a lot too.

She was more murdercat-leaning before. I don't know what to think. She shifted out of nowhere and it makes me concerned she's not following her own reads. I really haven't considered Bell much at all, I thought about it when Pooky made the show of swapping, sure, but I really wasn't into it.

I agree it looks bad, but I hadn't realized it just now when you pointed it out. Urgh.

You two are in full blown panic mode. Noraa seems upset she's being considered, which makes me feel bad if I'm wrong, but she has no strong opinion on who it is and doesn't seem as concerned with solving it as I would expect. But maybe I'm being unfair, we weren't in this day for very long. But then again! She never wanted Pooky. Pooky was in her top 3. Why does she not have a definite other person for that top 3?

If Pooky was in her top three, and I think I have this correct, right? Pooky was Noraa's third. I'll have to check. But where I'm going with this:

Noraa
?
Pooky
?

Why isn't there a clear winner between you two? I think it was like this:

Noraa
Bell

Pooky

Murdercat

So with Pooky struck out, how the hell does she start the day flipping on Bell like it's no big deal?

[Fidget]

I will never forgive myself if Murder is scum. Is that something to be taken into consideration, though? I kinda went off earlier saying that you should follow who you think it is, and the dead shouldn't get really mad at you for it.

But, boy, would they be mad. I'm starting to regret getting the privilege to be here.

But my heart wants me to go this way though :C

A serious review of Murderkitty is in order. Later. So I can make a more informed choice.

[Noraa]

Happy Noraa here!!!! Not caught up yet but I bet I'll still be happy anyways

Alright, I'll start off with a few things I would/wouldnt be doing here as scum.

Rn I'd be spamming large walls of protown text to get towncred if I were scum.
I wouldn't be easily swayed between murder and bell if I were scum. See Random Facts. I'd stick to one and never consider the one. Just spam huge walls on why they're scum. See Mafiasunny.
I wouldn't sus bell if I were scum. Sure, pooky might think its bell but Murder is an easier one to push. Not too sure about this one cuz I can never be sure what me in the other alignment would do but I do believe that scum!me pushes Murder here because scum!me never would've doubted either to begin with but I think would see Murder as more of a LHF.

[MURDERCAT]

Happy birthday Noraa
I think you might win this game

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

Bell I think you are really trying to figure out what's going on. I'll save you the effort. I'm town. It really is Noraa

This post is bad. I dislikes.

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Pooky, Fidget.
Read this.

I can't connect the dots. These two posts don't really fit together....

Pooky I never switch to pushing Noraa here as scum and I know you know that. Look at how Noraa is pushing bell instead of me. Her paranoia on me isn't real. We had 8 townies on her D1, then shelly tried to bus. Fred tried to bus too but did a bad job and ended up making Noraa look great. Titus can't shoot bell because then it's weird Noraa didn't die. If it was bell they would have killed Noraa

??????????????????????????????
why can't it be the other way around.

I'm still doing the rest.

I appreciate you sharing Murder about being town.
That's a relief. But Ugh. And scum rarely say what you just said but.
ughhhh

ARGH

I need to make sure. Just because it obviously looks like bussing doesn't mean it is.
She could have planned all of that in the hops of miseliminating Noraa later.
Absolutely.
Sure,
...
ffffff

Bell's paranoia looks really good for him right here.

Actually though, despite notes having 3 scum reads in her list she never voted scum in any of these VCs

I basically just followed consensus at the beginning because that was the only way to save my ass and not get limmed day 1 in yet another game...

Fidget I'm signing off for the night. Assess me honestly, if you think I'm scum so be it. But keep looking at Noraa too. Look at what her real paranoia towards me looks like on D1 of 2170. She is somehow not pushing me at all, it's all about Bell. She setup the paranoia towards bell and me and then went whichever way you felt Pooky. Notice she's not panicking that you are suddenly aren't doing what you said you would do when you targeted bell? Cool as a cucumber. Does that sound like town Noraa to you?

Yeah, I never SRed you in Stuff I'm listening to. Not once. I jumped on you to save my own ass. I agreed with consensus all over the place and tried hard to buddy everyone. It didn't work .... obviously but I did try to agree with everyone at some point. I even tried buddying Pooky hard that game by agreeing with everything he said :/

[Noraa]

Bell's obvtowning under pressure more than murder rn.

[Noraa]

If Pooky was in her top three, and I think I have this correct, right?

I wanted top two to be {pooky/Gloria, Bell}
Now looking back, we could've just made it {Pooky, Gloria} and we would've won the game.

Everyone(murder and Bell) kept sussing my top two(my real top two was {gloria, spooky}) which is why I ended up putting bell in my top two. Murder always insisted I had to agree to {Noraa, Bell} and so I did. Thinking back, perhaps this was set up from the start and I never realized it.

I remember murder suggesting we kill off all the inner town block that way it leads to an easy town victory. At the time, I thought it a really smart idea. Now, I feel like there's lots wrong with that plan.

[Noraa]

Gloria, Pooky, and I had a little circle where our top two were each other. Murder tried to tear it down the most was what I remember. But I also remember Bell always agreed with Murder on it.

Just looking at that, Bell sus for never actually taking things into his own hands but rather hiding behind Murder.

[Fidget]

Yay, narrowed it down to 2 players.

Happy birthday Noraa.

Bell I think you are really trying to figure out what's going on. I'll save you the effort. I'm town. It really is Noraa

This post is bad. I dislikes.

Why?

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Pooky, Fidget.
Read this.

I can't connect the dots. These two posts don't really fit together....

It's some of the stronger evidence you're scum. Not the two specifically, but the entire span of posts. The entire way that shelly A.) tries to take some credit for "solving" you and B.) treats you as flipped scum and starts setting up people as your partners from you at a time when your flip seemed inevitable.

[Noraa]

The reason I was left until limlo is clear, from town perspective, its because I'm conftown.

For scum perspective, its because at one point they realized I was a weak link. No matter how conftown, I was still a day 1 flashwagon that had nasty interactions will all the dead scum.

I've been worried about this since a long time ago. I suggested we scroll me yesterday when I was frustrated because I felt like no one listened to me. Never predicted everyone would do a full 180 on me but I was afraid it would happen. I would've scrolled uno but Gloria would still be here and she is not as weak a link in the town block.

I'm pissed I didn't push that idea harder. Murder said it was game throwing. Bell said it was a dumb idea. I can't tell which one knew this would happen and left me here.

I'm rereading today and yesterday.

[Fidget]

If Pooky was in her top three, and I think I have this correct, right?

I wanted top two to be {pooky/Gloria, Bell}
Now looking back, we could've just made it {Pooky, Gloria} and we would've won the game.

Everyone(murder and Bell) kept sussing my top two(my real top two was {gloria, spooky}) which is why I ended up putting bell in my top two. Murder always insisted I had to agree to {Noraa, Bell} and so I did. Thinking back, perhaps this was set up from the start and I never realized it.

I remember murder suggesting we kill off all the inner town block that way it leads to an easy town victory. At the time, I thought it a really smart idea. Now, I feel like there's lots wrong with that plan.

I don't understand how Bell and Murdercat are comparable in your reads. You seemed perfectly fine with Pooky shooting Bell off the bat today.

[Noraa]

I'm just poeing at this point btw.
I have no further strong scum reads.

As long as we don't eliminate Noraa, me, or Murdercat game's over.

This looks really bad rn. Like really bad. I just got full body chills reading this post.

[Fidget]

I'm just poeing at this point btw.
I have no further strong scum reads.

As long as we don't eliminate Noraa, me, or Murdercat game's over.

This looks really bad rn. Like really bad. I just got full body chills reading this post.

Why?

[Noraa]

VOTE: Flea

Let's clear some of the poe

This vote also looks bad. overexplain-y

I was hoping one would be more obvtown in reread but ig not.

[MURDERCAT]

Murder always insisted I had to agree to {Noraa, Bell} and so I did.

If I'm scum it doesn't matter who the final two is if I'm not in it

[Noraa]

Why?

1) there is scum in that pool
2) everyone thinks I'm it but I'm town

[MURDERCAT]

I don't understand how Bell and Murdercat are comparable in your reads. You seemed perfectly fine with Pooky shooting Bell off the bat today.

Look at how she shifts to me once Pooky moves his vote

[Fidget]

Why?

1) there is scum in that pool
2) everyone thinks I'm it but I'm town

I fail to see how that looks bad for Bell specifically when every player wanted Bell/Noraa to be the finale.

[MURDERCAT]

I have decided who I think the shot should be.
Bell I think genuinely doesn't know what is going on.
Noraa is the one in anyone but me mode.

[MURDERCAT]

@Pooky I think you know that town Noraa would be flailing like crazy right now
Plus come on that fake town slip at the beginning was really bad and we both knew it.

[Noraa]

No we have 3 shots, I want to see fidget and Gloria go today probably. Then tomorrow we have to actually think but I agree with Bell

how'd u know there would be a tomorrow in the first place?

[Noraa]

I don't understand how Bell and Murdercat are comparable in your reads. You seemed perfectly fine with Pooky shooting Bell off the bat today.

Look at how she shifts to me once Pooky moves his vote

Bell has this paranoia that he voiced in one post that you don't.

[MURDERCAT]

You won't convince me Noraa, try to work Pooky