Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Again, save your VCA

[nancy]

The Nero read makes no fucking sense at all. Aslan doesn't TR Nero here, ever. The LUV read makes little to no sense. The Brian read doesn't make a lot of sense.

Hey LUV, fuck off. Thanks.

[nancy]

Their SR on davesaz also makes zero sense.

Like I've seen bad reads, LUV style, but Aslan doesn't have reads that bad ever, they are just nonsense essentially.

[Vecna]

Davesaz this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8943566

in PYP: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8582743 (TOWN)

in CODE GEASS https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8767578 (TOWN lynchbait)

First, going through his iso in this game to characterize his play.

-Short - Medium length posts, showing some desire to gamesolve
-Bunch of questions adressed to people after just replacing in
-LOTS of comments about what is happening in his RL, explaining why he isnt active

Just guide me to scum this time.

In the middle of my catchup, but giving fair warning -- blatant coasting like this will only earn you an incompetence read for a little while -- after that it's screaming scum.

-that post ^
-Readslist appear reasonably genuine
-Reads people their iso's and reports on it a few times
-Actually responds agitated to my comment that he was lynchbait before in code geass as well

So far, rereading all of it....it doesnt really strike me much as scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The Nero read makes no fucking sense at all. Aslan doesn't TR Nero here, ever. The LUV read makes little to no sense. The Brian read doesn't make a lot of sense.

Hey LUV, fuck off. Thanks.

Save it! Save it!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Again, save your VCA

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Again, save your VCA

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Again, save your VCA

[Nero Cain]

This reminded me of something I wanted to comment on...

This means I need to rely on Town seeing I am Town

It doesn't matter if you are seen as town or not.

YOU

picked a wonder that means you need to get vigged for the investigation part to work.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Again, save your VCA

[nancy]

The result of which is that I've basically decided that the meta tell I thought I had on them could be flawed and they may actually be scum, and considering that possibility landed me here with reads:

MathBlade

Yuri

Brian Skies

Leonshade

Vecna

davesaz

PeregrineV

Caesar Wills It

CloudKicker

Sondam

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Maxous

Aslan

Creature

Lil Uzi Vert

NoticeMeSenpai

Nero Cain

[nancy]

LUV just replace out, you're pathetic.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Please don't motivate me to spam nancy, it's annoying you're auto clearing people off of dumb shit like VCA.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Again, save your VCA

[Nero Cain]

Also would you be so kind as to tell us why you suddenly don't want to lynch Caesar?

Nancy

[nancy]

Why do you think, Nero?

[Vecna]

Part 1 of the Davesaz investigation:

Spoiler:

Davesaz this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8943566

in PYP: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8582743 (TOWN)

in CODE GEASS https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8767578 (TOWN lynchbait)

First, going through his iso in this game to characterize his play.

-Short - Medium length posts, showing some desire to gamesolve
-Bunch of questions adressed to people after just replacing in
-LOTS of comments about what is happening in his RL, explaining why he isnt active

Just guide me to scum this time.

In the middle of my catchup, but giving fair warning -- blatant coasting like this will only earn you an incompetence read for a little while -- after that it's screaming scum.

-that post ^
-Readslist appear reasonably genuine
-Reads people their iso's and reports on it a few times
-Actually responds agitated to my comment that he was lynchbait before in code geass as well

So far, rereading all of it....it doesnt really strike me much as scum.

Part 2: PYP observations ( https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8582743 )
-Also short - medium length posts
-Tone appears slightly sharper / less ameniable than in this game, but only a slight difference
-States he usually gets caught as scum because he cannot lie efficiently
-Also does the full overview of reads every once in a blue moon
-from time to time quite opinionated about what people do
-Also into mechanics quite a bit
-Is quite certain about his mechanic knowledge - and acts cocky about it sometimes "having to give lectures to people" that sort of stuff.
-Agitated tone when people do stupid shit such as claiming cards
-Some actually decent reads every now and then
-Loads of comments about not liking certain wagons

[Nero Cain]

its a mislynch wagon and you are jumping ship to park your vote on one of the few people that are correctly reading you.

[nancy]

Lol.

[Nero Cain]

Caesar Wills It
CloudKicker
Sondam
TheRealGin-N-Tonic

like he goes from your top scumread to the north of null for F all reason and then why asked about you dig in you high heels. For someone that's arguing that I'm not playing with the town that's a pretty hypocritical action.

[Vecna]

Part 1 of the Davesaz investigation:

Spoiler:

Davesaz this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8943566

in PYP: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8582743 (TOWN)

in CODE GEASS https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8767578 (TOWN lynchbait)

First, going through his iso in this game to characterize his play.

-Short - Medium length posts, showing some desire to gamesolve
-Bunch of questions adressed to people after just replacing in
-LOTS of comments about what is happening in his RL, explaining why he isnt active

Just guide me to scum this time.

In the middle of my catchup, but giving fair warning -- blatant coasting like this will only earn you an incompetence read for a little while -- after that it's screaming scum.

-that post ^
-Readslist appear reasonably genuine
-Reads people their iso's and reports on it a few times
-Actually responds agitated to my comment that he was lynchbait before in code geass as well

So far, rereading all of it....it doesnt really strike me much as scum.

Part 2: PYP observations ( https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8582743 )

Spoiler:

-Also short - medium length posts
-Tone appears slightly sharper / less ameniable than in this game, but only a slight difference
-States he usually gets caught as scum because he cannot lie efficiently
-Also does the full overview of reads every once in a blue moon
-from time to time quite opinionated about what people do
-Also into mechanics quite a bit
-Is quite certain about his mechanic knowledge - and acts cocky about it sometimes "having to give lectures to people" that sort of stuff.
-Agitated tone when people do stupid shit such as claiming cards
-Some actually decent reads every now and then
-Loads of comments about not liking certain wagons

Part 3: Code geass observations ( https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8767578 TOWN)
-Shorter posts
-Plenty of conversation type of posts, responding to people
-Does stuff as voting people for trolling (it was me) and pressuring them to stop
-States quite clearly he doesnt do early reads
-Pays quite a lot of attention to inconsistencies in people their posts
-will actually be quite stubborn when thinking he has caught someone in a lie and keeps on hammering em for it (reminds me of town-gerry a bit)
-Will remember stuff that happened earlier, such as statements, to rub them in people's face later on as a reason to vote them
-Plenty of short "creature-like" train of thought posts
-Once again a bit of a cheeky posting style.

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Bottom line: The play _FEELS_ different. I tried to look at it from an activity point of view. in the other 2 games Dave is much more opinionated about things, more edgy, more cocky, and more "involved" and interacting with people and attacking them directly. I dont see any of that here. Not even the usual mechanical posts to solve stuff (allthough granted, theres less of that in this game at this point).

Just questioning random posts.
No agitation/cockyness or seeming desire to find stuff to attack.
Different tone, more usage of his real life as an excuse why he isnt active (mind you, he never is - but normally never uses actual examples to explain it).

Maybe some of it cna be explained because he's not caught up, but he was before - and showed none of the traits id characterize his townplay with.

Maybe I should go find another scumgame of his to see if my finds hold up there as well. At any rate, for now:

VOTE: Davesaz

[Vecna]

Lol stupid forum quote breakage.

Part 3: Code geass observations ( viewtopic.php?p=8767578&user_select%5B%5D=24574#p8767578 TOWN)
-Shorter posts
-Plenty of conversation type of posts, responding to people
-Does stuff as voting people for trolling (it was me) and pressuring them to stop
-States quite clearly he doesnt do early reads
-Pays quite a lot of attention to inconsistencies in people their posts
-will actually be quite stubborn when thinking he has caught someone in a lie and keeps on hammering em for it (reminds me of town-gerry a bit)
-Will remember stuff that happened earlier, such as statements, to rub them in people's face later on as a reason to vote them
-Plenty of short "creature-like" train of thought posts
-Once again a bit of a cheeky posting style.

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Bottom line: The play _FEELS_ different. I tried to look at it from an activity point of view. in the other 2 games Dave is much more opinionated about things, more edgy, more cocky, and more "involved" and interacting with people and attacking them directly. I dont see any of that here. Not even the usual mechanical posts to solve stuff (allthough granted, theres less of that in this game at this point).

Just questioning random posts.
No agitation/cockyness or seeming desire to find stuff to attack.
Different tone, more usage of his real life as an excuse why he isnt active (mind you, he never is - but normally never uses actual examples to explain it).

Maybe some of it cna be explained because he's not caught up, but he was before - and showed none of the traits id characterize his townplay with.

Maybe I should go find another scumgame of his to see if my finds hold up there as well. At any rate, for now:

VOTE: Davesaz

[Nero Cain]

I'd even argue that going against the grain and voting who you think are scum is more pro-town than sitting there and going "ok you guys lets all get together and lynch together" thats why I've not been on any mislynches and you've been on both.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69195

Dave scum game.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Davesaz

Yes I really want to vote him