In post 9096, Noraa wrote:I don't think scum team ever kill her with a scroll pass if not to make sure it goes T -> T
So far in the game, she's had 3 SRs. All 3 were town. Why would scum feel even slightly threatened?
I am saying, if you are scum, when else would the pass have happened?
You are agreeing with me here. Why would scum feel threatened enough to pass to her unless you are scum?
Bruh. LLD pass happened, not because they felt threatened, but because they knew it would guarantee T -> T
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:55 am
by Noraa
LLD pass was there to make sure it went LLD -> Noraa imo.
At the time I was starting to get TRed a lot. One of the very few people that might've passed to me right then, right there was LLD.
They did it to get two UTRs killed. Is that hard to understand or something?
It seems like common sense to me but you're making me think I'm going insane.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:56 am
by MURDERCAT
That is one argument. Another argument is that they feared LLD would come back and find more scum and wanted her out early.
Prove my argument wrong, don't just repeat yours
It is noteworthy that LLD did push for Hopkirk at the end of D1 instead of Noraa.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:18 am
by Fidget
Spoiler: Noraa defending Fred
In post 4650, Noraa wrote:Btw for the case on Fred, I will just be copy pasting Murder's reasons for you. lmao no. But like I do agree the reasoning behind launching Fred are weak asf. Dude's scummy but I mean he's said like ten things at this point. A bit too hasty to judge aren't we? This is honestly exactly how my wagon blew up and having a Noraa#2 isnt gonna help jackshit.
why tho? I mean Murder ..... didnt have the hottest solve yesterday but I mean so? I believe he brought up a valid point. The SRs from Fred on me are hot garbage. I agree with that. They seem opportunistic. I agree with that as well. Nothing else he has said has made him look anything but bad. I agree. He bad. He scummy. So?
From what I could tell in his other games, he's a juicy LHF and everyone jumped on him too fast. Legit I saw that wagon building up and I was like "Oh god Noraa#2 is charging in"
In post 4649, Noraa wrote:Very interesting that there is exactly, I repeat EXACTLY five SRs. This may be a bad way to judge but generally I find that only careful scum will have exactly the number of scum SRs.
I'm not stupid and I've been quite present in the thread. I know very well that pooky is kinda playful here. It's different tho and if you would care to meta dive, you would understand why. Plus if you read my entire paragraph and not just the first sentence, it shows u why exactly but no, Flea is just gonna come charging after me after reading one sentence of my reassessment read. Great. Lovely.
If we are killing a lurker slot first, Flea is the top candidate imo.
noraa the scumhunting god finding scum by their number of SRs! wow
noraa why do you seem to constantly make something and stir up SRs from something that isn't NAI
(I actually told her to do this in my last scumgame with scum!her, can quote from scum pt if needed)
Hey hey don't twist my words. If you would care to read the whole paragraph, I can engage you. Plus that TR you gave me a while ago sure disappeared fast eh?
I believe that answers the first two of your questions, but for the third, that will need to wait, because I never arrived at the destination and revealing the destination before we arrive there would make the questions completely pointless and reduce my avenues of inquiry.
ok but why tf is this question important? Plus im pretty sure u cut my post up cuz what u say here just makes me look like I dont know what im doing and im fairly certain I didnt say exactly *that* in response to whatever u asked me.
In post 4227, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:You know, with 17 players left in this game, I really would appreciate it if everyone only post if they have something meaningful to say. Below is an example of completely inessential conversation that could have been done using the site chat. Please use the site chat for conversations like this. You won't get banned. It's not game related.
Fredrick: complains about no game advancing content
Fredrick again: Doesn't give game advancing content at all
lol
fred order these names from town->scum NOW
fidget
taylor
theta
bell
gloria
This is just how I'd expect shelly to talk to a scum partner who's under even moderate fire lol. Not totally convinced yet but this does pique my interest.
Interesting observation. Shelly actually, if I remember correctly, said something similar to UNO and maybe someone else. If this theory is correct, fidget might've literally just solved the whole game.
Also, fidget is doing a lot of solving and less pre-flip stuff. Maybe its time to make this slot a town lean.
Also, I forgot to unvote pooky. UNVOTE:
Also, one last thing, I dont think we should rush this wagon. We have far too many people coasting rn. To the point that im almost just thinking that all the coasters are the scum team. Fred literally jumped out(into the thread) and bought himself a pass to hell(by being a total scum bucket). That's pretty bad play and honestly, if he was a scum that repped in, I really strongly believe his scum buddies would literally just tell him to coast some more cuz that's literally the best way to keep everyone from suspecting you. Idk im just having bad feelings about this + it reminds me of how my own wagon built up super fast and I got really mad and idk I just am not vibing here.
Spoiler: Murderkitty defending Fred
In post 4452, MURDERCAT wrote:I think there is a good shot fredrick is town and we are being snowed by strong scum players
I just don't think any of that is clearly scummy? I mean yeah he could be scum but I just don't see where the confidence comes from.
In post 4557, MURDERCAT wrote:I think Fred could be scum sure, but I'm not currently convinced by it and I really want to go S>T>S today. But if no one can see LLD or Pooky as options then I guess we will flip there? If we go town Fred to town Noraa it'll really suck though.
(+ All of the pushing on LLD/Pooky which I won't bother quoting)
Spoiler: Bell defending Fred
jk
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:18 am
by MURDERCAT
This is why we should have just shot Noraa first on D1.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:19 am
by MURDERCAT
For the record, I think a lot of that came with my vote on Fred anyway
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:21 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 9108, MURDERCAT wrote:For the record, I think a lot of that came with my vote on Fred anyway
Meh I guess not. Oh. At least I look better towards Shelly/Titus/Goofball
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:27 am
by MURDERCAT
The thing is I can tell that Noraa knows I'm town because of the way she in interacting with me, but I need the rest of you to come to that conclusion yourselves.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:28 am
by Fidget
Going along the argument I had in favor of shooting Pooky, Noraa doesn't
really
have anything that she herself did that implies she isn't scum with the deceased. It's always all about what they did. And if there is, it needs to be brought to my attention.
But we all know how well that went when I used that line of thinking last time so.
Actually, she did tend to be fairly accurate. She was never a force behind getting these people killed, but she did tend to be right. Does Noraa do this as scum?
In post 9079, Noraa wrote:After much thought, I still lean Bell!scum.
Okay, scratch that.
In that case, I would like you to demonstrate the lengthy thought process that led you to the conclusion of Bell!scum, if possible.
This is what I need the most at the moment. Let me inside of your mind because I do not understand where you are at, whereas I can understand Murdercat's situation very easily.
You do not seem particularly concerned with which one of those two dies, and if you are, I can't tell why you pick one over the other at a given point in time.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:35 am
by Noraa
In post 9102, MURDERCAT wrote:That is one argument. Another argument is that they feared LLD would come back and find more scum and wanted her out early.
Prove my argument wrong, don't just repeat yours
Ok but I don't understand. Why would scum fear LLD. Let's say I'm scum. In that case, LLD SRed one scum and two townies.
I never argued that LLD was feared by scum so Fred passed there. You argued that but then made it seem like I argued it. Scum never kill LLD out of fear imo.
If they really wanted her out early, they would've just dayvigged.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:36 am
by Noraa
In post 9107, MURDERCAT wrote:This is why we should have just shot Noraa first on D1.
yeah we should've cuz rn I'm just getting manipulating by whichever of u is scum.
In post 9114, Noraa wrote:Ok but I don't understand. Why would scum fear LLD. Let's say I'm scum. In that case, LLD SRed one scum and two townies.
I never argued that LLD was feared by scum so Fred passed there. You argued that but then made it seem like I argued it. Scum never kill LLD out of fear imo.
If they really wanted her out early, they would've just dayvigged.
If you are scum LLD hard tunneled you. She would do it again with other scum. She might also come back hard on you at some point further along in POE.
Shelly said that scum was saving the dayvig for elo numbers, if you use it early then town has one less person to sort the whole game.
In post 2367, Bell wrote:Is this where you fake gambit by forgetting that you can”t vig scroll holders
I’ll explain why then fineeeee
Scum dayvig in lylo numbers to win
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:40 am
by Noraa
In post 9113, Fidget wrote:You do not seem particularly concerned with which one of those two dies, and if you are, I can't tell why you pick one over the other at a given point in time.
Currently, I actually think its Murder. It switched. Murder's been pushing that {Murder, Bell, Noraa} last three a lot which is concerning. Like everyone else pushed last two. Murder was the only one that pushed last three.
In post 2367, Bell wrote:Is this where you fake gambit by forgetting that you can”t vig scroll holders
I’ll explain why then fineeeee
Scum dayvig in lylo numbers to win
That's clearly inaccurate tho otherwise scum would've already dayvigged someone today. Pooky and I tried p hard to bait a dayvig out but it didn't work.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:44 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 9120, Noraa wrote:Currently, I actually think its Murder. It switched. Murder's been pushing that {Murder, Bell, Noraa} last three a lot which is concerning. Like everyone else pushed last two. Murder was the only one that pushed last three.
You mean when I tried to trade myself off with Pooky during the last phase?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:45 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 9122, Noraa wrote:That's clearly inaccurate tho otherwise scum would've already dayvigged someone today. Pooky and I tried p hard to bait a dayvig out but it didn't work.
It refers to what happens after this pass. We are in elo only because the dayvig still exists