So three of taly's voters flip town
1 is mason and 1 is klick which is the person I subbed for and know that is town.
any reason why we shouldn't speed lunch taly here?
I'll try to read malcolm and cat
There overall reaction to them being the top wagon was quite Townie IMO, as well as their opinion as Frog and reaction to their Gladiate.
This is making me consider voting Math or Enchant.
Enchant has a tendency as scum to make it super obvious who his buddies are if either/both he and Math are scum here.
Enchant is typically hard to read either way but looking through their ISO I feel like there's even less content than usual given the number of posts?
I think unless STD can confirm Enchant being IC, he could well be scum here. He kept saying how he didn’t want a no lim but never voted for either Ceph or Taly.
Enchant could totally be scum here, but these are both odd reasons to think so
1- that was him fake claiming IC as a joke because he did not believe that the gladiate was real. Then being shocked that the gladiate was real. He is not an IC, and he was never seriously claiming one
2- Enchant is notorious for wanting the hammer. He has compared himself to not mafia in that way. He was clearly waiting to hammer either of taly/ceph.
Oh so I wasted time pming the mods then. Yeah, you could be right about that then. His Taly vote right after CSF Math vote looks suss af.
In post 7968, Lukewarm wrote:I am interested in VCA from Titus given our three flips.
Flip BBT is my initial look. Check my posts for today.
~Titus
Tell me more about this
If I am wrong on you, then we have deep wolves dividing the game and three town wagoned for no reason D1. The kill on Dunn makes little sense if you're not scum.
The push on Math is easy. While he could be scum, it's awfully convienent for scum to push the sick guy who votes them. Doubly so when it's Math.
~Titus
Idk whether he is or not. Main thing that pinged me was Enchant’s Taly vote.
VOTE: Enchant
So I’m going to do this for now.
I just wanted to prove that Enchant’s reasoning for sr us is total bs.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:02 pm
by Enchant
Can someone say what's under spoiler, i am bad on understanding anything which have more than 50 words.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:06 pm
by Bell
10 words or less is my motto.
They showed they shaded you after you voted Taly the first time.
Repeatedly.
So you were even factually incorrect.
They can sue you for not properly confirming the authenticity of your remarks you know.
You're going to inaccuracy jail.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:07 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 9104, Enchant wrote:Can someone say what's under spoiler, i am bad on understanding anything which have more than 50 words.
I’m saying that you’re reasoning for sr us is false. If you read those quotes, you will notice that I initially believed your IC fakeclaim and even went so far as to pm the mods about it. Why would I even bother doing that in a game with only alignment flips?
It was only then that I sussed you for your Taly vote.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:08 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 9105, Bell wrote:10 words or less is my motto.
They showed they shaded you after you voted Taly the first time.
Repeatedly.
So you were even factually incorrect.
They can sue you for not properly confirming the authenticity of your remarks you know.
You're going to inaccuracy jail.
Bell have you seriously considered doing stand up for a living?
In post 9104, Enchant wrote:Can someone say what's under spoiler, i am bad on understanding anything which have more than 50 words.
I’m saying that you’re reasoning for sr us is false. If you read those quotes, you will notice that I initially believed your IC fakeclaim and even went so far as to pm the mods about it. Why would I even bother doing that in a game with only alignment flips?
It was only then that I sussed you for your Taly vote.
@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:06 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 9110, Rad wrote:@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?
You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:08 pm
by Lukewarm
I think enchant might be scum, but I also find his posts enjoyable to read.
In post 9110, Rad wrote:@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?
You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol
I do!
I also read him town and would like to hear his thoughts about those posts
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:15 pm
by Rad
For some context Luke, I feel similar about both you and T-Bone as you feel about T-Bone. I'd like to get some more opinions to help round out my reads, and hey, if Bell's scum that answer could be useful as well.
It doesn't have to be me trying to convince Bell that I'm town with your and T-Bone's endorsement, ya know?
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:20 pm
by Rad
You know what I really like about Johnny still? This catch:
Yeah he's right. But it's a town paranoia, not a scum one. Does scum!Johnny read that deeply into me to catch paranoia? Has it really been obvious? I doubt it, but he nails it anyway?
Mafia wants to kill me, but doesh't want to be "first" to give reasons to this.
Why does mafia want to kill you out of all people?
And if your talking about execution like, your not really a priority target for mafia, if anything I’m a priority target for mafia in both ways.
I think his point here is specifically about the elimination.
If he is town, then scum almost certainly have him down as someone who can be miseliminated.
In post 9092, Enchant wrote:Because i am town duh, everyone simple shrug off my death and say i deserved it.
But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.
"Who can blame you for suspecting enchant, it's enchant!"
Kinda thing.
I actually found this series of posts pretty insightful and self aware of how he is recieved/ reacted to in games.
But also, in an abstract way that feels like it is something he has thought about across a series of games, and is not a This Game Thought, so it is not an alignment indicative thought.
Maybe it is alignment indicative that he choose to share it here and now. But if that were true, I have no idea where it would point to
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:26 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 9114, Rad wrote:For some context Luke, I feel similar about both you and T-Bone as you feel about T-Bone. I'd like to get some more opinions to help round out my reads, and hey, if Bell's scum that answer could be useful as well.
It doesn't have to be me trying to convince Bell that I'm town with your and T-Bone's endorsement, ya know?
I thought I remembered you saying you thought Bell was town, and that read got even stronger when he said he scum read you.
So, that made me read that post as you attempting to sway Bell over you attempting to get a read on Bell.
If I was wrong, then just ignore me lol
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:29 pm
by Rad
In post 9116, Lukewarm wrote:But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.
Luke I think we're having similar thoughts about Enchant.
Here's my "easy targets" list from beginning of d2:
Math
BBT
Enchant
Johnny
PP/BB
Mala
PD
I've been specifically aware of any pushes on those people. Not that any of them are necessarily town that scum wants to push, but that if scum wants to push someone easily, it's likely a town in this list.
Have you been thinking something similar? I only ask because you pointed this out with Enchant so was wondering if you had a list like this.
In post 9114, Rad wrote:For some context Luke, I feel similar about both you and T-Bone as you feel about T-Bone. I'd like to get some more opinions to help round out my reads, and hey, if Bell's scum that answer could be useful as well.
It doesn't have to be me trying to convince Bell that I'm town with your and T-Bone's endorsement, ya know?
I thought I remembered you saying you thought Bell was town, and that read got even stronger when he said he scum read you.
So, that made me read that post as you attempting to sway Bell over you attempting to get a read on Bell.
If I was wrong, then just ignore me lol
No you're right, I read Bell as town, and I reiterated that in 9113 which you probably missed right now because of my 9114 post immediately after.
In post 9116, Lukewarm wrote:But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.
Luke I think we're having similar thoughts about Enchant.
Here's my "easy targets" list from beginning of d2:
Math
BBT
Enchant
Johnny
PP/BB
Mala
PD
I've been specifically aware of any pushes on those people. Not that any of them are necessarily town that scum wants to push, but that if scum wants to push someone easily, it's likely a town in this list.
Have you been thinking something similar? I only ask because you pointed this out with Enchant so was wondering if you had a list like this.
That is not a way that I think about the game, so no I don't have a list like this.
Even that comment about enchant, was not really a self driven thought based on how I think about the game, and more of me attempting to reword enchants point into an easily digestible wording. Both because I found his self insight interesting, and because Drap seemed to shoot it down without understanding.
Looking at your own list it kind of feels like you are conflating being widely scum read with being an easy push, and also an easy push with a safe push.
In post 9110, Rad wrote:@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?
You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol
In post 9110, Rad wrote:@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?
You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol
Spoilers we're both town reading him
With specific/similar reasons which I'd like Bell to respond to.
In post 9116, Lukewarm wrote:But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.
Luke I think we're having similar thoughts about Enchant.
Here's my "easy targets" list from beginning of d2:
Math
BBT
Enchant
Johnny
PP/BB
Mala
PD
I've been specifically aware of any pushes on those people. Not that any of them are necessarily town that scum wants to push, but that if scum wants to push someone easily, it's likely a town in this list.
Have you been thinking something similar? I only ask because you pointed this out with Enchant so was wondering if you had a list like this.
I just wanna say, I am literally having to work with Nancy here to get even one vote on Enchant so this is anything but easy.
In post 9110, Rad wrote:@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?
You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol
Spoilers we're both town reading him
With specific/similar reasons which I'd like Bell to respond to.