Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

Ankamius · Post Post #9175 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:47 pm

holy shit

RR literally showed that his bulletproof is 1-shot today

there's no claimed ability to prevent kills on that night because all claimed actions have been disproven

SO THE ONLY WAY THE KILL COULD'VE BEEN STOPPED IS BY SCUM, MEANING SCUM NO KILLED

WHY WOULD SCUM NO KILL

Titus · Post Post #9176 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:47 pm

In post 9169, Flavor Leaf wrote:3 town JOATS, tracker, watcher, voyeur, plus Vanilla Cop, scum have a ninja to counteract it.

That’s what I expected Ankamius to claim, that or follower instead of watcher.

The logical action for scum last night was to kill you or Pine. Not gobble. The only reason to deviate is if you knew a watcher was coming. Ank knew his fake would be watching Pine.

What's doubly interesting is we could have used the Watcher role to give Espy another use of his role.

I am perfectly ok with an Ank lynch.

Ankamius · Post Post #9177 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:48 pm

I'll give you a hint

I've been clearing RR this game because I didn't see a plan to confirm them mechanically

IT JUST HAPPENED

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #9178 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:48 pm

That’s our only protective, the big 1 shot bp, and I think I believe it. No other reasons setup spec why on town’s side. Scum didn’t no kill there.

That’s confirmed now with the final claim.

RR is town. TSE no Venged.

Titus · Post Post #9179 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:48 pm

In post 9170, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 9166, Titus wrote:
In post 9159, Ankamius wrote:now tell me

WHY DOES NOBODY DIE ON THE NIGHT THAT GOBBLE WAS SUPPOSEDLY PROTECTED BY RR?
RR wifomed it and protected FL instead.

Either scum shot FL and TSE no venged OR scum no killed.

Scum RR doesn't likely no kill unless he's certain TSE dies in the near future.

You know what, TSE probably didn’t mean to no venge, they were probably just MIA the entire time, and straight up missed the timer.

Timer was cut short. Either TSE chose to no venge, or he venged RR.

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #9180 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:49 pm

In post 9178, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum didn’t no kill there.

why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S

Ankamius · Post Post #9181 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:49 pm

TSE choosing to no venge means if RR is town, the lynch is his fault and nobody else's

this is strong evidence that RR is scum

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #9182 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:50 pm

In post 9179, Titus wrote:
In post 9170, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 9166, Titus wrote:
In post 9159, Ankamius wrote:now tell me

WHY DOES NOBODY DIE ON THE NIGHT THAT GOBBLE WAS SUPPOSEDLY PROTECTED BY RR?
RR wifomed it and protected FL instead.

Either scum shot FL and TSE no venged OR scum no killed.

Scum RR doesn't likely no kill unless he's certain TSE dies in the near future.

You know what, TSE probably didn’t mean to no venge, they were probably just MIA the entire time, and straight up missed the timer.
Timer was cut short. Either TSE chose to no venge, or he venged RR.

I don’t think that’s what happened, that requires a No kill by scum. Why no kill?

They didn’t. They shot and it didn’t go through. That’s also why Ankamius is pushing the “why would scum no kill?” They didn’t, and she knows we can’t answer that correctly

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #9183 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:50 pm

In post 9180, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9178, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum didn’t no kill there.
why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S

Why would they no kill? Who were they soft confirming?

Titus · Post Post #9184 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:51 pm

In post 9180, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9178, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum didn’t no kill there.
why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S

Scum no killing definitely points to someone who could be cleared by the babysitting TSE role, assuming we wouldn't lynch to clear the issue.

Otherwise, a no kill risks creating a random townfirm that scum must deal with.

Ankamius · Post Post #9185 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm

and if you think my claim is 'too perfect,' then consider this

1. Why do you think I went out of my way to get scumread throughout the game
2. Why do you think I was so secretive about my PR, to the extent that I only willingly claimed it when my neighbor was being ran up
3. Why do you think I forcibly shut down a massclaim
4. Why do you think I CLAIMED TO HAVE A MANIPULATIVE ROLE?
5. Why do you think I wouldn't bank on a watcher shot to be my main contribution to the game when the way it progressed makes it nearly impossible for me to have contributions by play?

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #9186 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm

In post 9183, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why would they no kill? Who were they soft confirming?

the game is full of fucking joats and the ninja was dead

they needed to drain out any remaining track/watches/whateverthefuckelses

-S

Ankamius · Post Post #9187 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm

In post 9183, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 9180, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9178, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum didn’t no kill there.
why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S
Why would they no kill? Who were they soft confirming?

are you fucking serious?

Titus · Post Post #9188 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:53 pm

Which definitely means someone largely townread to survive against a townfirm or eat it themselves, which is back to Ank

Ankamius · Post Post #9189 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:53 pm

I'm largely townread???

Alisae · Post Post #9190 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:53 pm

SHE WATCHES PINE KEKW

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #9191 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:53 pm

In post 9184, Titus wrote:Otherwise, a no kill risks creating a random townfirm that scum must deal with.

no kill keeps the game on evens before scum knew that vanilla results meched people as town

it was meant to push the game more into mountainous I think

-S

Titus · Post Post #9192 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:55 pm

In post 9191, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9184, Titus wrote:Otherwise, a no kill risks creating a random townfirm that scum must deal with.
no kill keeps the game on evens before scum knew that vanilla results meched people as town

it was meant to push the game more into mountainous I think

-S

Keeping the game on evens benefits town more than scum. We get an extra lynch and I keep plan T if we lynch in mylo. We'll have a conftown if it gets that far anyway.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #9193 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:55 pm

Okay, I believe that, however that actually raises Ank’s town equity...? Nah, it’s super late, they can’t have expected that many more. There has to be some other reason. It’s a reason, but idk if that’s strong enough considering.

Ank’s role fits really nicely, almost too nicely, and like, I was thinking about that exact role...interesting.

Sherlock and Watson · Post Post #9194 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:56 pm

In post 9192, Titus wrote:Keeping the game on evens benefits town more than scum.

not really

-S

Titus · Post Post #9195 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:56 pm

In post 9189, Ankamius wrote:I'm largely townread???

You were

Titus · Post Post #9196 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:57 pm

In post 9194, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9192, Titus wrote:Keeping the game on evens benefits town more than scum.
not really

-S

It does. Gobble requested me not to explain. I am going to ask you to trust me here.

Ankamius · Post Post #9197 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:57 pm

k well

I have nothing more to add

let me know when it's time to prodge

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #9198 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:57 pm

In post 9184, Titus wrote:
In post 9180, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9178, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum didn’t no kill there.
why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S
Scum no killing definitely points to someone who could be cleared by the babysitting TSE role, assuming we wouldn't lynch to clear the issue.

Otherwise, a no kill risks creating a random townfirm that scum must deal with.

What night was the no kill?

Titus · Post Post #9199 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:59 pm

In post 9198, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 9184, Titus wrote:
In post 9180, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 9178, Flavor Leaf wrote:Scum didn’t no kill there.
why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S
Scum no killing definitely points to someone who could be cleared by the babysitting TSE role, assuming we wouldn't lynch to clear the issue.

Otherwise, a no kill risks creating a random townfirm that scum must deal with.
What night was the no kill?

Night 4.

We then lynched TSE after the NK because I wanted to actually confirm Ank.