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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:41 am
by MURDERCAT
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:41 am
by Bell
The whole scum team was weird around the Noraa wagon. They would just all the time be setting up these people or hitting people down for thinking Noraa was town, but they never voted her.

This is really, really obvious and Noraa still isn't engaging on it.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:41 am
by Bell
She's caught.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:42 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i mean both of you interpreted Shelly tryhard-pocketing me as scum theater so I'm not sure how you expect me to believe your interpretations of shelly behavior now is accurate.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
and this is like super super convenient timing on noraa doubt.

like when Gloria was browbeating me about whether Noraa was IC-Level Clear and I was like "nah" I didn't hear anybody else come support me :/

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:43 am
by Noraa
In post 9176, Bell wrote:The whole scum team was weird around the Noraa wagon. They would just all the time be setting up these people or hitting people down for thinking Noraa was town, but they never voted her.

This is really, really obvious and Noraa still isn't engaging on it.
What do you want me to say lmfao?

If Noraa!scum is what you go back looking for, Noraa!scum will be what you find.

I'm tired of voicing my side of the story. If even an LLD pass u can make up some ridiculous story for, I can't do anything to change these opinions bc that pass alone proves I'm town.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:44 am
by Bell
That's fair.

But how else would you interpret it?
There are a lot of Shelly posts that point this way.

Not just one or two. And there's the rest of the scum team's positioning to take into account as well.
I wasn't nearly as attentive then as I am being now.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:44 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
noraa you dont have to defend yourself

you just have to convince me which of these two are the bad guy

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:45 am
by Noraa
idk :(

I having a hard time deciding.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:45 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Bell you should stop tunneling noraa and come up with a good case on Murderkitty if you're town.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:46 am
by Bell
In post 9180, Noraa wrote:
In post 9176, Bell wrote:The whole scum team was weird around the Noraa wagon. They would just all the time be setting up these people or hitting people down for thinking Noraa was town, but they never voted her.

This is really, really obvious and Noraa still isn't engaging on it.
What do you want me to say lmfao?

If Noraa!scum is what you go back looking for, Noraa!scum will be what you find.

I'm tired of voicing my side of the story. If even an LLD pass u can make up some ridiculous story for, I can't do anything to change these opinions bc that pass alone proves I'm town.
You never voiced your side of the story at all though.
How do you interpret Shelly making all of these *I'm bussing you* posts.

How do you interpret the scum team not voting you but setting up a lot of miselinations off of your flip.

Your entire wagon doesn't make sense.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:47 am
by Bell
In post 9184, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Bell you should stop tunneling noraa and come up with a good case on Murderkitty if you're town.
Gunna go back to rereading. :(

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:53 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
do you find it interesting that Fred never mentions murderkitty once in his entire ISO except when he's like dead?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:56 am
by Noraa
*sigh*
I'll finish the ISOS later today.

..... im in chem rn :/

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:57 am
by Bell
In post 9180, Noraa wrote:
In post 9176, Bell wrote:The whole scum team was weird around the Noraa wagon. They would just all the time be setting up these people or hitting people down for thinking Noraa was town, but they never voted her.

This is really, really obvious and Noraa still isn't engaging on it.
What do you want me to say lmfao?

If Noraa!scum is what you go back looking for, Noraa!scum will be what you find.

I'm tired of voicing my side of the story. If even an LLD pass u can make up some ridiculous story for, I can't do anything to change these opinions bc that pass alone proves I'm town.
Untrue. I wasn't even looking for Noraa scum. I just realized the entire scum team was bussing you.
There are 2 town minimum pointing at Noraa scum here Pooky.
In post 9174, Bell wrote:
In post 9151, Bell wrote:
In post 666, shellyc wrote:
In post 664, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I genuinely think Noraa is hilariously doomed town. This was really kind of like, uhh, shit I don't know. Dropping a compact SUV on a kitten? It's just an overwhelmingly anti-Noraa game in a lot of ways, because I'm seeing an eager and experienced town out for blood and Noraa just sort of plays Mafia the way I browse for groceries. This matchup always ends in Noraa going down. There is no survival possible for Noraa in this player list, regardless of alignment.

My town read is based on stuff I can't /really/ convince anyone with, so why am I bothering to bring it up again?

Honestly, I just sort of started typing and then I imagined Noraa as an unspeakably adorable cartoon cat staring up with big watery eyes at a cartoon anvil the size of a small house falling towards her with the words "Death Curse Mafia Game" slapped on the side in big red block letters and I knew I had to share with the class.
lol

ftr i would still like you to explain it for associative down the line, but this is like bussing without getting cred. Mush is obvtown with noraa associatives
:igmeou:
Translation: Hah, you dumb.
I want to empathize this though. since it got lost on the last page. I can't see another communication from Shelly here. This is a subtle jibe at Mush's ignorance as an informed player.

Gong back to rereading again.

Pedit: Not there yet, but yes the scum team barely mentions MC. Early game. Shelly engaged the most with him from reread so far, but I don't see anything that points hard one way or the other.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:59 am
by MURDERCAT
Pooky I am surprised you don't notice the lack of emotion in Noraa's posts today.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:01 am
by Bell
Actually I take that back is more like Shelly talking to town than scum. But it's very minor.

Just keep reading. I do agree that I need to look at both.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:07 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 9190, MURDERCAT wrote:Pooky I am surprised you don't notice the lack of emotion in Noraa's posts today.
It's her birthday and she's also sick and everyone is ganging up on her.

I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't want to talk to you at all.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:08 am
by Bell
to

Help with SVS or TVS.

From indolent town Murder, I see someone just sticking to it and reaching that conclusion. Both Murder and I noticed something was weird with how shellyc was approaching the Noraa wagon and called her out on it. I Did first, but not this directly. This seems like natural ignorance. But both remaining players aren't terrible at this.

From Scum murder, I see a fairly innocuous exchange that won't mean anything and neatly collapses if Noraa flips town. It's a neat exchange that wraps itself up whilst having two people communicate with one another.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:10 am
by Bell
I'm not sure how to interpret this with ShellyC and Murder in a scum PT. It's difficult to know.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:10 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
There is a certain beauty to this game if I caught Noraa-Scum on like day 1 and then she somehow won anyway as I missed her on the last town elim.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:17 am
by Bell
Doubting myself again from posts to

belongs with and

I need to put these three together. later and see if she makes more of them. I feel like I'm just seeing patterns where there aren't any though, it's just weird how it's always roughly the same size, narrative arc, and communication style.

It's one of the three Noraa's.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:22 am
by MURDERCAT
I gave my town case. I don't want a TR based on some BS Shelly or anyone else said or didn't say. Here is what I think is the evidence I am town:

- I SR'd shelly most of the game and never Bell
- I had a SR on lapsa even though it was safe to call the slot null
- I didn't push Fred in a way that looks like a bus
- A deepwolf strategy involving me wouldn't have involved shooting LLD, who had town blocked me
- I called out Shelly's fake reaction
- I connected Titus to scum Shelly
- I had a real emotional reaction to MUSH shooting Goofball instead of Titus
- I didn't shoot in Bell/Noraa when shooting Noraa would have more likely led to Bell/MC final 2.

If that's not enough, so be it. I'd like to see a similar list from Noraa.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:30 am
by Bell

/: +1 opps I rolled scum murdercat. Maybe. Eh. Not really.

A lot of Noraa's interactions with LLD
on page 35-36 hit me in the townie nerve center. But both players have done this. :(

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:31 am
by MURDERCAT
Also, read the posts from Noraa please Pooky, she can module her emotions as scum