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The thing that bugs me the most is that there was no further questions about breaking it. Like I can see scum!math asking them in an attempt to get info to better enable the consequence, but I don't understand why it isn't the first question you ask as town or scum. I don't know, it's irrelevant but frustrating

Also, for clarity, that's not a scum read on Luke, more a reminder to myself not to just nod and agree with all conclusions.

I don't know, I just felt you basically saying you would lim me for information over literally anybody else felt really scummy. Especially as you were using someone else's analysis as the basis for it and so wouldn't need to take accountability as it were.

What scum reads do you have?

? I don't feel like I said or thought that? And I agree, I need to more critical of Luke's conclusions.

My scum reads are boring - there's at least one scum in Johnny/mala/enchant. I think best bird is just flat scum. I'm trying not to scum read professor drapion. Math could be scum. I guess my spicier scum reads are that I wouldn't be surprised if oth was scum. Occasionally I waver on pooky:, but they are probably town.

C and g too. In my head I get hung up on only one of them or math can be scum but that's not mechanicalky true is it

In post 8818, Bellaphant wrote:@luke, read your spoiler before your conclusion and we came to the same thing. I think bbt flip is a tonne of info, based on what you've done. *shrug*

Maybe it wasn't 'above anyone else' but you basically said you're happy to lim me for info here.

Which I took to mean you would lim me over your scum reads for info.

In post 9179, Bellaphant wrote:C and g too. In my head I get hung up on only one of them or math can be scum but that's not mechanicalky true is it

I don't know. I think it would be weird for Math AND C&G to be scum and be in a neighbourhood. Like, that literally makes no sense at all.

In post 9178, Bellaphant wrote: My scum reads are boring - there's at least one scum in Johnny/mala/enchant. I think best bird is just flat scum. I'm trying not to scum read professor drapion. Math could be scum. I guess my spicier scum reads are that I wouldn't be surprised if oth was scum. Occasionally I waver on pooky:, but they are probably town.

Some of our reads sync up nicely actually.

Why one scum in Johnny/Mala/Enchant? Best Bird is a read I have held for a long time, too.

At least one of Luke/Pooky/OTH are scum. Scum are driving the game too well for all of those to be town IMO

Yeah, no, I'm not that silly? I do think it's a true statement though. I didn't think it was a great plan, hence *shrug*.

If they are both scum then the neighborhood Ia just a lie though? Because the flips font come with the info?

P-edit I'll answer in a bit

I didn't even consider the possibility of the neighbourhood not being a thing. With the show having lots of separate camps/places it makes sense for the game to have a ton of neighbourhoods.

Did Corwin mention anything about the neighbourhood? I seem to remember someone saying Corwin didn't even mention interpreting posts for C&G, is that right?

Dunno, that would be interesting though since a lot of maths early defense was that corwin was playing for themself and for C&G. Which would imply they were relaying reads at least.

I didn't pay corwin a tonne of attention honestly.

I know part of Johnny/mala is lhf, whatever, but the contributions they have made aren't great, and I remember the fact that they both kept popping in for page tops and it annoyed my more than anything they've actually said. Mala also did very similar in a recent game with math and Titus, in terms of engagement, I had the quite unpopular scum read on them day one and I was right.

Enchant is a meta read - really early game they felt like deptuy cultists but even when they've made contributions I just can't see any process/solve in their approach.

P-edit I guess I'll go back and look at corwin.

Can I interest you in a C&G vote, Bella?

I'll re read corwin tonight but yeah, have this as a deposit.

In post 8291, Malakittens wrote:Willing to go enchant. Less likely with math

Still agree with gamma hydra town.

Bbl

Do you have any other reads? What is your current read on Taly? Because you voted them before the gladiate but now have no read on them at all?

In post 9181, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 9179, Bellaphant wrote:C and g too. In my head I get hung up on only one of them or math can be scum but that's not mechanicalky true is it

I don't know. I think it would be weird for Math AND C&G to be scum and be in a neighbourhood. Like, that literally makes no sense at all.

they might not be neighbors at all

In post 9190, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 9181, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 9179, Bellaphant wrote:C and g too. In my head I get hung up on only one of them or math can be scum but that's not mechanicalky true is it

I don't know. I think it would be weird for Math AND C&G to be scum and be in a neighbourhood. Like, that literally makes no sense at all.

they might not be neighbors at all

Corwin never made any reference to DNA, did they? But Math did.

Idk, Ircher usually keeps making and updating readslists although RH9 doesn’t seem too different. The thing is that unlike in me v Titus, I don’t actually hate their reads. I don’t really see an agenda, so eh?

Crazy theory.

I wonder if some of the neighbourhoods do consist of T+S and scum know this. Therefore, two scum decided to 'create a neighbourhood' in the hope that if one of them flips then the other person in their neighbourhood is cleared as town.

Is that too tin-foily?

That's what I was trying to say earlier. I don't think all the neighbors are just town, no, otherwise what's the point of masons.

In post 1629, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I just checked OP because, you know, common sense.

Umm, so neighbourhoods should probably be sorted, no? I know it's flavour based but indulge me.

Ethan infiltrates the camp of the survivors from plane crash and pretends he was one of the people on the plane. Could this be done in the form of a T/S neighbourhood?

Also, 2 neighbourhoods with T/T doesn't really make sense to me? If they're all town just make one of them a masonry or whatever?

I'm not great at game set up, but like, based on flavour I would think there is scum in the neighbourhoods somewhere. If someone is widely enough scum read from the neighbourhoods, that would be a good place to start

I posted this fairly early into the game and I still stand by it.

Neighbourhoods need sorting at some point.

In post 9171, Bellaphant wrote:What would be the benefit of a fake posy restrictions though? Unless both the neighbors are scum, which feels pretty odd.

P-edit that makes a bit more sense. I dunno what me and you are doing this Game, I feel like I disagree with you, you get aggy at me and then we end up agreeing.

I get you the benefit is lost on me too...but maybe it was just a plan to get by as a lurker day 1 with a built in excuse...no one could predict we'd put up 300 pages.

I just think with how inconsistent they've been with the post restriction. Signatures don't count. Not even noticing they went over 100 words (or maybe they thought no one would count idk). Then they didn't know what the punishment was for going over 100 words. Then finally they said the Mod told them "close enough". I just think it was a plan gone wrong for reasons some within their control and some without their control, and that's why we struggle to think "why?"

And like, I'll be honest, and maybe this is confirm bias...I don't think their content through Math on Day 1 or their content now on Day 2 is all that compelling that makes me want to disregard all the weirdness because they look town.

Also if we accept their are scum in the neighbors...I think DNA is more likely than the Math slot.

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In post 9175, Bellaphant wrote:The thing that bugs me the most is that there was no further questions about breaking it. Like I can see scum!math asking them in an attempt to get info to better enable the consequence, but I don't understand why it isn't the first question you ask as town or scum. I don't know, it's irrelevant but frustrating

I also feel this sentiment. Math should have been more critical of the slot starting Day 2. I can't explain why he was so accepting of the mistakes, and then when we revealed it was broken, I can't explain why he wasn't even concerned. It's just a weird dynamic. I think we should flip one of these two slots, though my preference is DNA.

I think it’s logical Math wasn’t engaged enough to care?

~GE

In post 9184, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I didn't even consider the possibility of the neighbourhood not being a thing. With the show having lots of separate camps/places it makes sense for the game to have a ton of neighbourhoods.

Did Corwin mention anything about the neighbourhood? I seem to remember someone saying Corwin didn't even mention interpreting posts for C&G, is that right?

I don't ever recall Corwin ever speaking for C+G. I think someone once accused Corwin of giving reads that weren't his own...to which Math later said "well duh because he was posting for three people".