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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:01 pm
by Kappa
I figured saying this now would be the most beneficial time, considering that you guys might quick lynch before I post (again :roll: ).

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:02 pm
by Gamma AGTM
Is it possible Xi had an inveestigation on someone? (being a skitzo) I'll read his day 3 again, I guess.

When exactly did he say that, what night/day?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:02 pm
by Kappa
And, since I may quite possibly die after this double day is over, I figure I should claim my role.

Anybody disagree with this?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:02 pm
by Gamma AGTM
Kappa wrote:I figured saying this now would be the most beneficial time, considering that you guys might quick lynch before I post (again :roll: ).
:shock: calm yourself.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:03 pm
by Gamma AGTM
Kappa wrote:And, since I may quite possibly die after this double day is over, I figure I should claim my role.

Anybody disagree with this?
Is it helpful to claim it do you think? It's possible we have a protection role out there btw...

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:03 pm
by Kappa
Gamma AGTM wrote:Is it possible Xi had an inveestigation on someone? (being a skitzo) I'll read his day 3 again, I guess.

When exactly did he say that, what night/day?
Xi only communicated with me on the 31st of January.

I don't have any information regarding his investigation if he had one.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:04 pm
by Gamma AGTM
Yeah, I know, you said he wouldn't be allowed claim if he did anyway, rit?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:05 pm
by Kappa
Gamma AGTM wrote:
Kappa wrote:And, since I may quite possibly die after this double day is over, I figure I should claim my role.

Anybody disagree with this?
Is it helpful to claim it do you think? It's possible we have a protection role out there btw...
It probably won't give the town more information than it currently has, though it may depending on how you look at it. My role PM and any PM I may or may not have received from the mod later is/are rather... ambiguous on some things.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:05 pm
by Kappa
Gamma AGTM wrote:Yeah, I know, you said he wouldn't be allowed claim if he did anyway, rit?
The mod forbid it.

We communicated through PM, not through a QT, though.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:10 pm
by Mu
I don't think I've seen a mod forbid players from talking about knowledge they had (nightactions in this case) and I can't see how Max enforced it if communication was PM based.
omi should prolly be lynched next. Or alpha.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:26 pm
by Theta
Gamma AGTM wrote:Oh ninja'd. Hmm I don't see this as a scum gambit, it'd be far too risky. Although I'll await Max's answers I think this probably speaks towards you being legit.
Really now.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:07 pm
by Gamma AGTM
Theta wrote:
Gamma AGTM wrote:Oh ninja'd. Hmm I don't see this as a scum gambit, it'd be far too risky. Although I'll await Max's answers I think this probably speaks towards you being legit.
Really now.
REALLY. I think he's definitely *in* the mason group and since I'm p sure a recruiting mason can't recruit scum then that'd speak for him being legit.

Unless you think he's not on the mason group and this is a scum gambit, but if that's the case he's taking the risk of being counterclaimed by an possible surviving masons and lynched immediately.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:22 am
by Theta
It smacks of opportunism to me. I don't understand the timing at all. I'll have to think about it more.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:50 am
by Alpha
so why is kappa claiming that? the mason recruiter is dead. the other mason is also dead. so there is no one that can confirm him. but it's day 5 now, and there are at least 3 days that the recruiter can recruit. if no other mason counterclaim, i will believe it then. but we should ask the mod whether the recruiter can recruit a scum first.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:20 am
by Max
Mu wrote:I don't think I've seen a mod forbid players from talking about knowledge they had (nightactions in this case) and I can't see how Max enforced it if communication was PM based.
omi should prolly be lynched next. Or alpha.
Note that I would be capable of enforcing the rules by looking in their PMs.
Does the recruiting mason die if he tries to recruit scum?
Or does the action just fail?
If you're meant to know I'd tell you 'kay?

On a side note 10 Alive, 6 To Lynch

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:30 am
by Gamma AGTM
No harm asking.

Max has used a mason recruiter before (or had one listed)
You are the recruiting mason, each night you may add another player that you believe to be town to your masonic group. They will lose their role when targeted, regardless of if the recruit is successful. If at any point your target fails you may no longer either recruit or discuss with other masons, if you target the mafia godfather you (will/will not) succeed if you target any other mafia you will die and your mason group dissolved.

You win if all anti-town players are dead

Admittedly the game mechanics in the above are a little different (perfectionist mafia)

I don't think Kappa is clear atm, but I do think he's a mason. I don't really see the point of a mason group being able to recruit scum players, but I'm not going to rest the game on outguessing the mod.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:49 am
by Theta
Gamma AGTM wrote:I don't think Kappa is clear atm, but I do think he's a mason.
I'm feeling stubborn.

Tonight I shall make A TABLE. And see where that leads.

In other news: I think people should post top 3 candidates for scum. Day 5 you lot should have a good feel by now.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:30 am
by Iota
vote pi


Ridiculous that this guy is still alive. Some folks promised some attention to this wagon, let's see you put your money where your mouths are. At least show me you've noticed.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:05 pm
by Kappa
Just a Q...

do you guys believe I could've made all of that information up on the spot?

I mean, I posted it all within a few minutes.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:08 pm
by Kappa
Alpha wrote:so why is kappa claiming that? the mason recruiter is dead. the other mason is also dead. so there is no one that can confirm him. but it's day 5 now, and there are at least 3 days that the recruiter can recruit. if no other mason counterclaim, i will believe it then. but we should ask the mod whether the recruiter can recruit a scum first.
I claim it now specifically
because
nobody can confirm me. Since neither zeta nor Xi are alive to post the communications, I feel it is important that I spread the information to the town. Otherwise, the info may go unspoken and unheard.

However, zeta did hint at it if you look at his posts (his last few posts listed me as somebody he 'thought' was town), though I just noticed that, myself.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:09 pm
by Kappa
Theta wrote:
Gamma AGTM wrote:I don't think Kappa is clear atm, but I do think he's a mason.
I'm feeling stubborn.

Tonight I shall make A TABLE. And see where that leads.

In other news: I think people should post top 3 candidates for scum. Day 5 you lot should have a good feel by now.
in no particular order...

theta

beta

psi

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:33 pm
by Theta
Reasoning is tech. The post where he says you're town came after he became SK. Also, the way you posted seemed like you were making it up as you went along.
[col]Phase[col]Mason[col]SK Night 1[col]recruits Xi[col]infects Eta Night 2[col]recruits Kappa[col]infects Xi Night 3[col]recruits ?[col]infects Epsilon Night 4[col]recruits ?[col]infects Zeta


This timeline doesn't add up t me. Also, we should still have a pair of masons out there. Right Kappa?

We have 10 left. We started with 24. We probably started with 5 scum + 1 SK, leaving us with 4 scum. That puts us at lylo. I'm thinking maybe the masons claim. I'm also worried that we had 3 kills last night.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:45 pm
by Kappa
I did not get a PM from max that anybody was recruited.

As far as I know, zeta did not recruit anybody N3.

N4 would obv not have anybody successful, since zeta would have been turned.

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:50 am
by Theta
Kappa wrote:N4 would obv not have anybody successful, since zeta would have been turned.
Not obv. It would depend on resolution order.

I'm also wondering why Xi didn't flip "Recruited Mason"

It'd be kinda awesome if some other people started talking.

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:46 am
by Gamma AGTM
Good question @ why didn't he flip as a mason/recuited mason or some such variation.

I think Omicron and Iota are probably scum. If we're assuming lylo then pi is probably not scum, or at least I think only one of Iota/Pi is scum (and am leaning towards Iota).

I have a town read on Mu, through gut.