Seemingly Normal Mafia (Over)

[Kairyuu]

It's the hiding behind scum = death aspect that concerns me.

That part is normal. Click the wiki link?

[Seacore]

Ah. I misread it before, apologies.
I withdraw my concern.

[Hades]

Wait, how exactly was I supposed to react to Raider's claim? I mean, I came in as a replacement, I'm a little lost.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

danakillsu (2) - Anon, Hades
raide8169 (2) - Toon Fighter, ZazieR
Hades (1) - Kairyuu

Not Voting (4) - raide8160, DocPotter, Seacore, danakillsu

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

[danakillsu]

I agree with Kairyuu's assessment. I think that Hades and I are the most likely scum, probably. Hades' claim is disturbing to me, though, since I've never heard of a town roleblocker, only a scum roleblocker. So since we're pretty much done with roleclaiming, I'll

vote: Hades

. Also, my sig clearly stated a V/LA, so it's weird that people thought I was lurking.

[raider8169]

I think that Hades and I are the most likely scum, probably

You think that you are scum?

[Seacore]

Oh god, Dana needs to die.

[Kairyuu]

That was PAINFUL.

Unvote
Vote: dana

@Seacore: Use your judgement. If you think Hades is scum, OR that Raider is town, shoot Hades. If Hades is scum and Raider isn't he WILL block Raider to make sure your bullet goes through.

@rest of town: Finish this.

[Seacore]

vote Dana

L-1 I believes

[Toon Fighter]

unvote, vote: Dana

Here goes nothing

[ZazieR]

Unvote Vote Dana

(Almost forgot the unvote again. Bah, that's not like me >.<)

First off, Raider, reasons why you hid behind those players please. And an explanation why you didn't give the real description behind your claimed role of what it does.

Secondly, Hades. Raider mentioned with his first post about his claim that his role is similar to that of a roleblocker. You claimed to be a roleblocker. So why didn't you question his claim?

Third, I saw Doc posting today. Where are thee?
We need yours and Anon's claim.


And I'm a Vanilla Townie.

It was actually a lynch already, Toon. The mod just missed my vote. But he apparently isn't the only one who missed this post. Unless Hades did see it, but decided to ignore it.
And in case that question of how you were supposed to react was aimed at me:
Raider claimed Hinder at first and said that it is similar to that of a roleblocker.
You later claimed to be a roleblocker.
So how come you didn't question his claim the first time when his claim is similar to a roleblocker, yet his claimed name is entirely different?

P.S. Seacore, look back at Raider. Notice his first and second claim and notice that the first claim didn't mention anything of the dying behind scum part. Hence, I prefer him to be shot over Hades.

But we were talking about ignoring posts. Toon, guess what? You did so to. I still haven't seen anything of a response to my points against you.

And Dana still fits that group as he still hasn't shown the reasons behind the first Toon vote, but the lynch is upon us.

[Toon Fighter]

I will answer those questions (unless I die tonight) but currently I have been busy with college, and (my mistake, I know) I signed up in a few too many games at once (and currently they are all daytime). I promise I will answer you tomorrow.

[ZazieR]

Forgot to respond to two important posts >.<

First off, Raider, reasons why you hid behind those players please. And an explanation why you didn't give the real description behind your claimed role of what it does.

At the time they seemed likely town. Seeing as I am not dead I was right. I wanted to hide behind primate again however seeing as he claimed cop I figured someone would be out to kill him. I didnt give a real description nor really put much effort into that post as I had other things on my mind. Is there something more specific about it you would like to know?

You want us to believe that you could try to explain what a hider does, but not click your supposed role PM to give a description of what it does with other things on your mind?
Sorry, but the click and paraphrase seems more easier.
Also, this explanation doesn't seem to fit with the bolded:

My bad for the claim, it is hider, I jacked it up. Like a roleblocker means if someone targeted me they were more less roleblocked, but if they targeted the person I was hiding with IE killing them I was a goner as well.

I have never seen this role before so

I was just trying to explain it but things are now going well for me right now.

Because the bolded gives me the impression that you didn't paraphrase your role, because you had never seen that role.

Well now you raise a dilemma. If I hide behind scum I am dead, but at least that confirms everyone else that I have hid behind as town. Not sure how this works if there is an SK though, but if there is one and I hid behind you then let me know

If I keep it a secret (who I hide behind) and die then nothing is going to come of it

, of course if I tell then that gives scum a target and they can take us both out. Grr. Either way I guess I am dead but sadly I can see how it helps out town. I would rather not do this but I will agree to it, at least until I can think of something better before the day ends.

Glad you realised the bolded. So how come you never breadcrumbed or did anything of that kind regarding your targets?

[Kairyuu]

@Zazie: Breadcrumbing is scummy. That's practically the only point in his favor from my perspective. Only scum should need to go out of their way to make their claim believable later in the game. Town should be far more concerned with scumhunting.

[ZazieR]

@Zazie: Breadcrumbing is scummy. That's practically the only point in his favor from my perspective. Only scum should need to go out of their way to make their claim believable later in the game. Town should be far more concerned with scumhunting.

With breadcrumbing, I'm talking about his targets. That if he had targeted scum, instead of town, we could find out who his target was of the night he was killed. It would have been a 1-1 trade.
But as he didn't crumb his targets, we wouldn't have known. Just look at his ISO. Could you have told me that he thought that Farside, Primate, Seacore and Anon looked town without knowing? So what would you have said had Raider flipped Hider after one of the nights?
As he realised this, it seems more likely that his Hider claim is fake.

[LlamaFluff]

End of Day Vote Count

danakillsu (5) - anon, hades, kairyuu, seacore, Toon Fighter
raider8169 (1) - ZazieR
hades (1) - danakilsu

Not Coting (2) - raider8169, DocPotter

That is a lynch

[LlamaFluff]

danakillsu - Serial Killer - Lynched Day Six

Nigh actions due by friday at 8AM, PST

It is now night, posting game relative information during night is grounds for a modkill

[LlamaFluff]

Incase it was not obvious, all actions are again due to me instead of Jebus. No excuses.

[LlamaFluff]

Happy Morning! Even with two dead its a good morning!

ZazieR - Mafia Goon - Slashed Night Six

Seacore - Serial Killer - Killed Night Six

CryMeARiver replaces DocPotter

Deadline for day seven is May 7th, 7PM PST
With six alive it takes four to lynch

[CryMeARiver]

Happy Morning! Even with two dead its a good morning!

ZazieR - Mafia Goon - Slashed Night Six

Seacore - Serial Killer - Killed Night Six

CryMeARiver replaces DocPotter

Deadline for day seven is May 7th, 7PM PST
With six alive it takes four to lynch

1. I thought it said I died. I was about to say, no respect for the new guy?
2. Nice cross kill guys
3. I should be caught up in a few days

[Kairyuu]

Two Serial Killers? Also, Zazie-scum is unexpected. That lends credibility to Raider's claim, actually. With that much killing power, another protective role is more likely. That leaves Hades, CMAR, or Toon, since I know I'm not scum, and I don't believe Anon is. Given:

1. EB was away during N4, when the block of Primate would have been submitted.
2. We now have 2 Goon flips, and, given the demonstrated power of the town, it's highly likely that scum have at least one power role, roleblocker being the most common.
3. EB's claimed targets themselves are pretty sketchy.

I'm willing to say that Hades is one of our scumbuckets.

vote: Hades

[Hades]

Oh wow, I really thought that those two were pretty safe town. Well I guess that you never really know in this game right? Well I guess that logically there are either one or two mafia left.

I had some time to really think about it and I concluded that Kairyuu's tendency to constantly point fingers, yet not be too persistent on lynching somebody was pretty scummy. Now while I did believe Raider to be scum, I decided to roleblock Kairyuu. I did this because I believed Seacore's night vig story and I figured that Seacore would take care of Raider. In retrospect, it would have been better to roleblock Raider, so that he could do no damage that night, but the decision was made late at night in a poor frame of mind.

Of course what happened last night changes everything. Like Kairyuu said, it does give some validity to Raider's claim. Also, given that there were two night kills and I blocked Kairyuu means that he is definitely not the godfather. This makes it less likely that he is scum. I believe that the scum are most likely either Toon, Anon, or CryMeARiver.

[Hades]

Raider, who did you hide behind last night?

[Toon Fighter]

List of dead:

2 scum
2 SK
10 town (2 cops, 2 doctors, rest vanilla)

That leaves 6 players:
Hades
CMaR
Toon Fighter
Kairyuu
Anon
Raider

Looking at the outed roles by now, I think there are two more scumbags in the game.

Yesterday Claims:
Me - VT
Kairyuu - VT
Raider - Hider
CMaR - ??? (hasn't claimed yet, I say he should claim ASAP)
Anon - VT
Hades - Roleblock

Following Kairyuu's analysis, I believe that scum either have two more goons, or they have a more powerful role and a Goon. I will wait for CMaR to claim, and then proceed to vote for someone.

Yesterday, Zazier had posed me some questions that he wanted to see answered. He is now dead (and scum), so, if any of you want me to answer them, just ask.

[CryMeARiver]

Two Serial Killers? Also, Zazie-scum is unexpected. That lends credibility to Raider's claim, actually. With that much killing power, another protective role is more likely. That leaves Hades, CMAR, or Toon, since I know I'm not scum, and I don't believe Anon is. Given:

1. EB was away during N4, when the block of Primate would have been submitted.
2. We now have 2 Goon flips, and, given the demonstrated power of the town, it's highly likely that scum have at least one power role, roleblocker being the most common.
3. EB's claimed targets themselves are pretty sketchy.

I'm willing to say that Hades is one of our scumbuckets.

vote: Hades

Just wondering before I reread, what makes me clearer? Did DP (who I replaced) replace EB or something?