Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:11 pm
Choose: Oversoul
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Choose: Oversoul
Everyone choosing Palisade is either scum or stupid.
An old quote. I still think this has a significant chance of being correct.About one third of the votes are policy (scummy), one third are legitimate scumhunters who've misread us (town), and the other third? Seems like they're there just for the heck of it. (Case-by-case for those.)
As explained, this post shows extreme cognitive dissonance between the first paragraph and the second. To paraphrase?Togeloo wrote:I'm not familiar with pre-existing Grudge Matches before this game started, what's the deal with CooLDoG and Fate?
Vote: CooLDoG
"What's the deal withCooldogand Fate?"
"Oh, and I'm going to go after Cooldog, by the way."
Clashing. Thoughts. So. Painful. THIS GUY SHOULD NOT LIVE TO SEE DAY THREE. HE IS CONFIRMED SCUM.
In addition to the cognitive dissonance, there's the additional scum Motivation behind his post--he tries to look pro-town by defusing the Cooldog/Fate situation. Key words, "tries", and "look". He is actually doing nothing to help, and as the cognitive dissonance shows, he actually makes it worse.
THIS GUY MIGHT AS WELL HAVE SCUMCLAIMED.
I still feel this is valid.As mentioned, this is fluff. It has a scum motive--Togeloo is trying to appear helpful. When really, it's contentless padding.Togeloo wrote:Actually, it only takes one vote on someone else to make that person a kombatant as well since the rules state the two players with the highest amount of votes go against each other. Technically, the player getting the most votes will more than likely get to choose their opponent if all other votes are on him, which is why I think they get to talk during the Kombat phase (it allows the person with the most votes to build a case against his opponent).
THIS GUY NEEDS TO DIE PRONTO.
Actually. Amrun's confirmed town from this. She can't be Black Dragon, and GhostWriter was Earthrealm. This was not a bus.Amrun wrote:Vote: GhostWriter
Read the rules kthxRemember how GhostWriter was null for 16? There was something which could make him scum, but something that indicated he was town--this reinforces the latter. Not reading the rules is a trend far more frequently observed from town than from scum. Amrun should realize this. It's common sense. As scum, you want to know the rules, specifically to avoid being called out on this. You want to be careful and not get caught. As town, you tend to be a little more carefree and don't read things as closely.
It's not a 100% tell, and GhostWriter's particular misunderstanding of the lynch system is an extremely minor version of it (hence why it was mostly null), but Amrun exaggerates it to be stronger than it was...to use it as a scumtell against GhostWriter, rather than a town-tell. This shows extreme scum motivation.
Strong scumread.
BTW, this still applies. Ludi is solidly town.And Ironically Enough, Ludi's extreme hatred of one half of this hydra has lead both halves to conclude that Ludi is solidly town. We both feel that Ludi would not be focusing purely on Mastin if he were scum, because it'd be ASKING for us to tunnel on him. Since he chose to do so, anyway, it means that Ludi is solidly town.Ludi wrote:SECRET READS;
MOD CONFIRMED SCUM: MASTIN
HHAAHHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THE DEATH OF MASTIN HAS ARRIVED BY MY HAND
FOS: EVERYONE NOT VOTING MASTIN
VOTE MASTIN
Strong town-read.
This, however, I'm not as sure on. Will be reviewing. (I'm going to pull an all-nighter if nobody hammers me. If I go down, I go down scumhunting, thankyouverymuch.)We came to the mutual conclusion that this made Nero Cain town, because he was trying to stop our lynch for--quite frankly--selfish reasons. Once more, we come to the same line of thought as on Reck and Ludi--that if Nero were scum, him defending us for this would only attract attention to himself. Bonus points for doing it in all caps.Nero Cain wrote:STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MASTIN. I DO NOT WANT TO READ WALLS.
Town-read.
The names might've changed, the conclusion has not. This needs 2-3 scum, one from each faction minimum. GhostWriter takes care of one Earthrealm, but we need one Black Dragon here MINIMUM, if not two. {Darox, Toogeloo, IS, (Oversoul), T-Bone} contains 1-2 scum, probably two.This was the peak of the Cooldog wagon. Coincidentally enough, our reads here are Town-scum-town-scum for the first half of it. But that's 2/7; there needs to be one more. Amrun's joining the wagon fills up that need.CooLDoG (11) - Darox,Albert B. Rampage, Fate, Toogeloo,xRECKONERx,, Oversoul,GhostwriterPalisade, Internet Stranger, T-Bone,Amrun
This makes sense, because you don't get this close to a lynch with only town names. You need scum support.
Obviously, we were wrong about Spring being scum (she's confirmed town), but I need to look into this some more, to see if he's scum-thinking-he-nailed-opposite-scum.This reeks of scum bussing their buddy who just effed up in the hopes of getting town-cred.Togeloo wrote:Scum didn't read the first couple pages and see a Miller claim already and thought they could get away with one themselves.
unvote;
vote: springlullaby
Further pursues this lynch. It feels like Togeloo KNOWS the claim is fake already. Like he wants to get town-credit for nailing the scumbuddy who royally screwed up.By the way, how have you not read your PM? You had to confirm through it before we started playing the game. I imagine you had to have at least read through to that part, right?
Passive Aggressiveness. Strengthens our scumread on him. It's like he wants to be given credit for nailing spring...while not strongly pushing for her death, leaving open the possibility of her getting out of it.Togeloo wrote:Statement 1 says you think you both are Millers (if you think BL is town, then you think he is Miller).
Statement 2 tries to discredit BL's claim to being a Miller.
Fails to address Spring.Fonz wrote:Vote: Bunnylover Lynch all claimed millers.
Fonz, take your shiny white armor, sword, and shield elsewhere. We need no White Knight. (This trend continues...)He's saying that pointing out mod errors is not scumhunting. duh.
No, we don't. You said "lynch all claimed millers", and failed to mention spring AT ALL. Not even a casual "spring's is more believable". Nothing. You. Ignored. Spring. Completely.Fonz wrote:I'm aware that SL claimed miller too; Bunnylover is however scummier. See how that works?
We'll get back to Fonz's stances later, but he is scum.
BACK TO FONZ:This is about as ultimate as White Knighting gets. HE'S EFFING WHITE KNIGHTING AFonz wrote:I have, and I see an effort at scumhunting. The slot seems to be getting attacked because one head referred a question about a comment the other made to the head that made it. That's not scummy, that's hydra play.WHO HAS ONE HEAD BEHYDRAAnyone else see the problem here?MASTIN!
He knows we'll flip town, and him defending us is an attempt to make himself look good after the fact. "Told you Pal was town."
"Maybe that's just how Fonz plays?"
DUDES.HE CALLED FOR WISDOM OF THE CROWDS ON ALL THINGS MASTIN BEFORE THE GAME BEGAN! HE. There's no way that comes from town. AB-SO-EFFING-LUTELY NO. DANG. WAY. It's Cognitive Dissonance at its most extreme.TRIED TO VOTE MASTIN OUT OF THE GAME,YET NOW IS DEFENDING OUR SLOT
FONZ IS CONFIRMED SCUM.
Right, so if Fonz is scum, then it has to be Black Dragon; I don't think GhostWriter would bus in this manner.Has officially moved to town for this.GhostWriter wrote:Fonz's refusal to touch the fact that SL also claimed miller and proceeded to not give details EVEN AFTER BL WAS CALLED ON THE SAME THING is so lovely to see. SL is definitely going up with Pali now. We get an SL scumflip at any point, Fonz has got to be a buddy.