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In post 28, serrapaladin wrote:Hi guys.
VOTE: mod for voting pedantry
and

!vote Sharper

for reasons.

In post 120, serrapaladin wrote:

In post 114, BBmolla wrote:Post 110 sucked. Hard.

Sarcastically calling Syr's post vacuous or disagreeing with a mass lynch?

There are some setups that could certainly be broken with a mass claim, but if the game is already slightly scumsided with no protection roles, a mass claim can seal the game against town very quickly by pointing out optimal NKs, of which there are probably several.

Varsoon, if you expect 112 to be a reaction test, why point that out straight away?

!vote Varsoon

@MM: last time mod said he does prefer bold votes though.

In post 206, serrapaladin wrote:Are we honestly not going to talk about Parama's derphammer? I can't find any comparably derpy play from him recently and with 100+ completed games I would hope that's not common for him.

!vote Parama

What was with the certainty Varsoon would flip town? Really don't like the fact that you're trying to paint your vote as positive in any way, shape or form. You should have read the game regardless of whether there'd been a hammer or not.

The wagon had already been driven to L-1. If you were so sure Varsoon was town, that should have been equally useful in gathering reads from. Your flurry of posts after your hammer looks a lot like you trying to talk yourself out of/smokescreening any blame for the hammer. I don't buy shos-scum, nor do I see why you'd think he'd be killed last night.

BB, why so selective in how you apply your sig?

In post 233, serrapaladin wrote:

In post 225, Parama wrote:Well I can 100% guarantee you that BB isn't mafia in this game, or even a harmful third. He's either town or jester, so lynching him is bad.

And I liked you before but your stubborn insistence to not logic is baffling

BB is not a bad player, there's no way he's transparent enough for you to make that statement. I don't have a scumread on him, but I see no logical reason to give him a town-pass. I also still haven't seen a compelling case against shos, so you can attack my logic all you want and risk me completely ignoring you, or you can start using some hard logic yourself. Also, what have you done around here for people to not find derp-hammers by you suspicious?

!unvote

The unlyncher thing was a surely a joke. Rufflig, mind explaining your thoughts about Syr?

In post 262, serrapaladin wrote:Huh, fairly new town seeing non-standard RVS as scummy is quite common though.

Parama's massive wall basically has shos scum for allegedly taking stuff too literal, calling out lurkers, not scumhunting and voting Varsoon. The first two points are non-tells, the third is less true than for many others (like UT) and Varsoon was wagoned to L-1 before he got derp-hammered. The Varsoon wagon was bad in hindsight, but I see worse votes on it than shos' (PimHel/UT).

Actually, I think I'll

!vote Untrod_Tripod

In post 289, serrapaladin wrote:

!vote Syryana

In post 367, serrapaladin wrote:I'm starting to think scumslip from shos. Last Xylbot AND most testsetups posted here and last game have 2+2 scum...

!vote shos

In post 408, serrapaladin wrote:Nah, I don't really see UT. I could go for Syr, but shos is fine.

In post 439, serrapaladin wrote:Voided, did the ability gifted to you by shos do anything verifiably useful? Did it work?

In post 424, shos wrote:Why would a scum inventor tarfet townies

trips me up a bit, as scum can't be normal inventors, and if his role is the normal inventor, he should know that.

UT looks very much like the town type of not giving a shit and his attackers are being pretty opportunistic. I don't really see Para/BB together, but either one of them, or them on separate teams is quite likely if shos is town.

In post 469, serrapaladin wrote:Untrod's play really doesn't make any sense at all as scum. He's literally refusing to contribute, and being pretty obvious about it. That play just screams apathetic townie (or jester), while as scum I would expect the lurking to be more active and less abrasive. This way, he's blatantly lurking AND drawing attention to himself, which I just don't see from scum. I guess there's the off-chance that he's scum gambitting being read as jester, but I doubt it.

In post 532, serrapaladin wrote:Given his last two posts by shos, I'm more inclined to believe he's town. I don't think the normal inventor role exists for scum, shos. It should say which alignments your role can be in your role PM.

!unvote

From Syr trying to tie BB and Para together as a scumteam, I get the impression he's scum with one of them and wants to ensure a mislynch when his scumbuddy gets lynched. The same could sort of apply to shos, as well, but I think Syr is scummier on his own.

With Rufflig's reply to Tierce's comment about how obvtown he is, I sort of got the vibe he's third party who is playing a town game. I don't often see town replying to comments about how town they look.

Para, you should probably claim.

I think we could learn a lot by lynching Para, but the selfvote worries me... I'm still not sure whether it's a ballsy gambit or whether he actually is town trying to move the game forward. I highly doubt he's a jester, as shos suggested.

I'll give more detailed reads later today or tomorrow.

In post 649, serrapaladin wrote:

In post 642, Oversoul wrote:It seems my gambit did not work as well as I had hoped.

It's pretty unlikely that there's only one non-town directed kill, plus Para's reaction to the fakehammer looked pretty fake, so Para is a good lynch. I still think he's scum with Syr (or maybe shos), but worst case he's an SK.

!vote Parama

Back to L-1.

In post 707, serrapaladin wrote:Sorry for my lack of activity, I've had a bigger workload over the last week than I thought I would.

I still think Parama, if not scum, is much more likely to be an SK than a vig.

Regarding OS' wall:

The eyeroll was acknowledging Varsoon's hypocrisy of complaining about eyerolls being mean, but then calling us assholes for lynching him.

In 233 I unvoted Para, because enough people had confirmed the derp-hammer is common behaviour. I sarcastically mentioned what a horrible town-meta that is to have...

What was the purpose of asking whether I've played with BB? I think this is our third game together, and nowhere has his play been transparent enough to justify Para's certainty about BB being either town or jester.

Your comment about my level of contribution is rich given the slot you switched in to.

The comment about Rufflig being third party was more gut than anything else. I think a survivor would be more likely to respond to being called obvtown than town, and I really don't see Rufflig as scum.


Para, what's wrong with VM not wanting to hammer you YET?

In post 797, serrapaladin wrote:

!vote Syryana

I'm pretty sure it's not MyLo, so that should be fine.

In post 921, serrapaladin wrote:You like meta right, Tierce? Try this and tell me more about how this is town-Syry...