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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:27 am
by buldermar
Okay. They're called "rim" in Denmark, so it was natural just to add the "es". How well do you speak and write in your 2nd best language?
DCLXVI [2/5] - Human Destroyer, Majiffy
Majiffy [2/5] - buldermar, orcinus_theoriginal
Minimal [1/5] - DCLXVI
Mac [1/5] - Minimal
Abstained (Not Voting): pirate mollie, fferyllt, Mac
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:33 am
by buldermar
For ff:
In post 248, buldermar wrote: In post 205, Majiffy wrote: In post 204, pirate mollie wrote:well I had you as town but now I am not so sure given your retarded history when you are scum. I think buldey is town as well as orci as well as fery
so what have you managed to come up with
Retarded history?
HD and Orci hard town. DCL probable scum.
Explain your bulder and fery reads?
Alright Majiffy is perfectly in line with my thoughts, which usually means he's town.
So, probably town:
HD, Majiffy
Probably scum: DCL
In post 446, buldermar wrote: In post 443, Majiffy wrote:
The manner in which you respond to Orci's points. Very defensive, which is funny, because the argument was about the DCL case not at all about how you were scummy, so you have no reason to be defensive about it. Unless you're coming from a defensive mindset, like scum does.
Okay Majiffy is probably scum this game.
In post 448, buldermar wrote: In post 446, buldermar wrote: In post 443, Majiffy wrote:
The manner in which you respond to Orci's points. Very defensive, which is funny, because the argument was about the DCL case not at all about how you were scummy, so you have no reason to be defensive about it. Unless you're coming from a defensive mindset, like scum does.
Okay Majiffy is probably scum this game.
Just to clarify: this is the type of lazy tell that Majiffy often drops as scum. He havn't really read the thread carefully, so he just calls something defensive or scum mindset or whatever without giving examples (don't bother doing it now, it wont change the fact you didn't do it the first time around when I asked you why you read me as scum). He has done this countless times before. The next step is tunneling where he will just repeat "scum, scum, scum" like orc is currently doing.
In post 451, buldermar wrote: In post 450, Majiffy wrote: In post 448, buldermar wrote: In post 446, buldermar wrote: In post 443, Majiffy wrote:
The manner in which you respond to Orci's points. Very defensive, which is funny, because the argument was about the DCL case not at all about how you were scummy, so you have no reason to be defensive about it. Unless you're coming from a defensive mindset, like scum does.
Okay Majiffy is probably scum this game.
Just to clarify: this is the type of lazy tell that Majiffy often drops as scum. He havn't really read the thread carefully, so he just calls something defensive or scum mindset or whatever without giving examples (don't bother doing it now, it wont change the fact you didn't do it the first time around when I asked you why you read me as scum). He has done this countless times before. The next step is tunneling where he will just repeat "scum, scum, scum" like orc is currently doing.
Protip: laziness isn't a scumtell. Particularly with me.
Did you forget how I caught you on day 1 in that other game on TR? :O
In post 482, buldermar wrote: In post 464, Majiffy wrote:Uhhh so... uhh...
Are we gonna lynch DCL or are we going to sit here and just kinda stick our thumbs up our asses becauuuuse...
Game's kinda dragging. At least to me.
How can you think DCL is scum AND I am scum at the same time with how I've been wanting a DCL lynch? Clarify, please.
In post 488, buldermar wrote:"Guys guys look... I thought he made a serious scum-slip with "my partner", therefore I'm town"
No,
nonononononono
In post 564, buldermar wrote: In post 561, Majiffy wrote:You're not wrong, but "sheeping" and trusting someone with different player strengths (reading meta of players she often plays with to a high degree of accuracy) to read someone until proven incapable or otherwise untrustworthy is a very large logical leap.
Hahaha.. Not in a million years would you refrain from pushing my lynch as town only because mollie thinks I'm town. No way.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:35 am
by buldermar
Oh the last quote comes before the second last quote. Otherwise, they're in correct order.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:35 am
by fferyllt
In English rime is an ice crust that forms on trees, leaves etc when dew freezes instantaneously as it forms. I've also seen salt crusts described as rime.
However, rime is also an archaic (in English) spelling variation on rhyme. f'rinstance it's
Rime of the Ancient Mariner
/pedant
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:36 am
by buldermar
Re-reading my own ISO made me slightly less certain about Majiffy being scum.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:38 am
by buldermar
In post 928, fferyllt wrote:In English rime is an ice crust that forms on trees, leaves etc when dew freezes instantaneously as it forms. I've also seen salt crusts described as rime.
However, rime is also an archaic (in English) spelling variation on rhyme. f'rinstance it's
Rime of the Ancient Mariner
/pedant
I spell it the archaic way because I'm old school.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:46 am
by fferyllt
So much of the mutual crap comes off as town-on-town.
I'm suspicious of DCL because he's not here.
HD has all but disappeared, too. But he's on DCL so that doesn't make much sense from a team perspective. Still wonder if we are actually dealing with a scum *team*.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:12 am
by pirate mollie
In post 923, buldermar wrote:
How to go from mega town tell to standing out more; the mollie edition.
you know what? you are being a giant dickhead to me in this game
what is your deal. if this is how you are going to start acting towards me I am not wanting to play games with you anymore
@ fery - you were off in your first few posts. I think it was your third or fourth post is when I sent in the view. like I said, I assumed you were scum cos you are dropping all of your classic tells like hedging on nearly every read. speaking of indie meta, you are not playing true to yours.
and luis taught me a lesson in the red dwarf game that there different ways to play indie. I thought you were scum and I know that I am dropping so many tells it is not funny and that you would probably nk me and I did not think that I would be able to work in time in figuring out who my target was. I can't believe you missed my wave I am not sure if I could have been more obvious.
I cannot believe that out of all the players in this game you and I end with this role, how ironic. although I must say I think this is going over pretty well.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:19 am
by fferyllt
It's a really different experience playing in games where I don't know/hardly know most of the players. I've learned very quickly that cold-reads of prior games is no substitute for experienced meta. As someone who mostly depends on relative tells and meta, playing here has been exceedingly challenging. At least, it's not been exceedingly discouraging.
I think I"m hedgy as fuck in most of my games here. And when I have been sure, a lot of times I've been wrong.
You can use this game to amend your meta on me, I guess.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:24 am
by fferyllt
@Mollie bulder's point is a valid one. Is your change in read on him based on losing that axis of me being scum that you were using? I can't figure out how that changed your reads tbh. though I guess I can see thinking Majiffy was an assassin candidate.
When I initially went after you, I thought I had found scum in your laid back play and easy-looking vote. It wasn't until you reacted to my vote that I realized you had to be either the other assassin or maybe...not likely...but maybe a town PR.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:32 am
by pirate mollie
In post 933, fferyllt wrote:It's a really different experience playing in games where I don't know/hardly know most of the players. I've learned very quickly that cold-reads of prior games is no substitute for experienced meta. As someone who mostly depends on relative tells and meta, playing here has been exceedingly challenging. At least, it's not been exceedingly discouraging.
I think I"m hedgy as fuck in most of my games here. And when I have been sure, a lot of times I've been wrong.
You can use this game to amend your meta on me, I guess.
I will.
if play together again I will be sure to keep this in mind and not use hedging as a scumtell for you. also I totally understand what you mean about it being challenging with new players, I have had the same experience too.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:37 am
by fferyllt
And I would say that backing off and using my view to make sure I wasn't pressuring a town PR is almost quintessentially my indie game. I always ally with town if my win condition can remotely allow that.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:38 am
by pirate mollie
In post 934, fferyllt wrote:@Mollie bulder's point is a valid one. Is your change in read on him based on losing that axis of me being scum that you were using? I can't figure out how that changed your reads tbh. though I guess I can see thinking Majiffy was an assassin candidate.
yeah, my read on him was spinning from a scum fery axis so that was part of why I had him as town. I was trying to pull him, orc and mac into a town mindmeld cos those 3 were my strongest town reads. I kept trying to figure out who your partner was and all I could come up with was majiffy and minimal as being possible.
When I initially went after you, I thought I had found scum in your laid back play and easy-looking vote. It wasn't until you reacted to my vote that I realized you had to be either the other assassin or maybe...not likely...but maybe a town PR.
lol, in my opinion I did not overreact I mean it is almost like you have never seen me meltdown in a game before
eta: xpost, okay that makes sense
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:45 am
by buldermar
In post 932, pirate mollie wrote: In post 923, buldermar wrote:
How to go from mega town tell to standing out more; the mollie edition.
you know what? you are being a giant dickhead to me in this game
what is your deal. if this is how you are going to start acting towards me I am not wanting to play games with you anymore
@ fery - you were off in your first few posts. I think it was your third or fourth post is when I sent in the view. like I said, I assumed you were scum cos you are dropping all of your classic tells like hedging on nearly every read. speaking of indie meta, you are not playing true to yours.
and luis taught me a lesson in the red dwarf game that there different ways to play indie. I thought you were scum and I know that I am dropping so many tells it is not funny and that you would probably nk me and I did not think that I would be able to work in time in figuring out who my target was. I can't believe you missed my wave I am not sure if I could have been more obvious.
I cannot believe that out of all the players in this game you and I end with this role, how ironic. although I must say I think this is going over pretty well.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:46 am
by Majiffy
In post 925, buldermar wrote:
Okay. They're called "rim" in Denmark, so it was natural just to add the "es". How well do you speak and write in your 2nd best language?
Does that mean a poet in Denmark is a professional...
rimjobber
? OH HO HO HO.
And my 2nd best language is Thompsonese, I am fluent.
In post 929, buldermar wrote:Re-reading my own ISO made me slightly less certain about Majiffy being scum.
Re-reading your "case" on me makes me slightly more certain you
are
.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:46 am
by fferyllt
@ Mollie It was a pretty big reaction to one vote.
lol. typed out some of your town meta. backspace ftw.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:49 am
by buldermar
ff, how much experience do you have playing with Majiffy, and how succesful have you been reading him in the past?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:50 am
by buldermar
I bet you are after all those books you've read.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:50 am
by buldermar
In post 939, Majiffy wrote:Re-reading your "case" on me makes me slightly more certain you are.
It's not a case.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:51 am
by Majiffy
I am, after all, a professional.
p-edit: Well, you were asked for one... so... I guess that just goes to show, eh?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:52 am
by buldermar
In post 944, Majiffy wrote:
I am, after all, a professional.
p-edit: Well, you were asked for one... so... I guess that just goes to show, eh?
That goes to show what?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:55 am
by fferyllt
In post 941, buldermar wrote:ff, how much experience do you have playing with Majiffy, and how succesful have you been reading him in the past?
Against a backdrop of players I know, I've been awesome. In the borkgame I had him oscillating around null (sometimes null/town sometimes null/scum) until day 3 of the game even though he tunneled orcinus' and my hydra to hell and back on day 1, and then tunneled one of my town reads on day 2. Day 3 was when reality set in and it became obvious that he wasn't doing analysis - just tunneling people who weren't going to be lynched until some other bandwagon (which always turned out to be town) became credible looking.
This game looks really, really different.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:56 am
by pirate mollie
In post 940, fferyllt wrote:@ Mollie It was a pretty big reaction to one vote.
lol. typed out some of your town meta. backspace ftw.
cos I thought you were scum and had seen my wave and was lynching me to gain some form of cred for getting town lynched. you know that thing that scum do all of the time, lol, it cracks me up every time I see it.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:58 am
by Majiffy
That you're a scumbutt trying to push an illegitimate lynch.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:30 am
by buldermar