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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:06 am

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you're really dense
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:09 am

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If this was such a brilliant idea, why didn't you suggest it as soon as the day began?
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:12 am

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because it's common fucking sense and i didn't think i'd need to spell out the correct play here

what difference does it make?
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:17 am

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Determining motivation, primarily. You weren't suggesting it and you were giving views (in your defense) up until Skull expressed his or her suspicion of you. Then you clammed up. Now you're talking again, and suggesting no-lynch; if it was obvobv the best play, why wait until he expressed suspicion of you to bring it up?

What you say is important. The timing of what you say is also important.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:26 am

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if that is what you think, then you're not a very good player. the fact that i didn't say anything about my suspicions is a pretty huge fucking clue about my intentions today

it's not something i thought i'd need to spell out because i thought this game wasn't taking place in road to rome

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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:34 am

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Alternatively:

Skull might vote me. I don't know about that. But I'm not going to vote Skull.
Saki might be persuaded to vote me in a three person Saki-zMuffin-Bookitty standoff.
It doesn't look like Skull or I will vote Saki.
Even if we did, Saki said he would take you out with vengeful.
So you or I are the only two possible lynches today.
If you push on me after saying I was town and my claim was believable yesterday, you will be inconsistent and scummy.
If you push on Saki and you're successful, you might get killed with the vengeful.
You can't push on Skull because I'm not voting him no matter what.

Giving no information and pushing for a no-lynch for tomorrow when you will be amazingly loquacious is the only choice you really have, isn't it?
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:43 am

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bookitty wrote:If you push on me after saying I was town and my claim was believable yesterday, you will be inconsistent and scummy.
If you push on Saki and you're successful, you might get killed with the vengeful.
You can't push on Skull because I'm not voting him no matter what
good

then you understand the current situation perfectly and you're one step away from understanding why no lynch is the correct play today
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:55 am

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My situation is different than yours:

I won't push on Skull because he's town. I don't care who else thinks so.
I won't push on Saki because I think he's town. If I thought he was scum, I'd have no issue lynching him today because 1) I wouldn't believe the vengeful claim and 2) even if he was vengeful scum (I don't know if that exists) and he killed me, town would still win. The latter would not be equivalent for scum.
I have no issue pushing on you because I think you're scum.
I'm giving every bit of information I can for town. I don't have any magical powers that make my info more valuable tomorrow than today.
I am certain to see tomorrow unless I'm lynched today and yet I am not pushing for a no-lynch.

My "current situation" is in no way comparable to yours.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:07 am

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you don't understand what i mean by the current situation, then

the fact that you're so set in your reads makes no lynching all the more correct play here. if you're town, well, you're set in a view of the game that is going to result in a loss, and if you ignore the correct play here, then i don't really give a shit - the loss will be entirely on you.

here's a general thought experiment, though: what do you make of the last two night kills and why are the people who are still alive alive?
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:29 am

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I have explained my opinions on both of the nightkills already in this thread.

Explain the "current situation" to me like I'm five. Specifically:

Do you think Skull is scum?
Do you think Saki is scum?
Do you think I am scum?

My reasoning is not based on "reads" in the sense you are implying. I have minimal information from your slot anyway. It's based on "Who played like smart scum yesterday and who benefits from a no-lynch today?"

If Skull was the nightkill tonight, who would be scum for you tomorrow based on the information you can't give us now?
If Saki was the nightkill tonight, who would be scum for you tomorrow?

How does it benefit town to withhold this information now?
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:34 am

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bookitty wrote:I have explained my opinions on both of the nightkills already in this thread
no, you've talked about why you think they might have been killed - i'm asking you specifically why the people who are currently still alive are still alive. for example, why was gameplay killed over skull? why was FoD targeted over... anyone else? (yes, i know you said he might have been killed on suspicion of being a doc, even though i'm not really sure how you came to that conclusion, but that doesn't really explain it)
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:36 am

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actually, now that i'm thinking about it, pim siteflaked before the FoD kill, so if you think i'm scum, presumably you think pim siteflaked, came back during the night phase to perform the kill, then went back to siteflaking, and chose FoD because... what? he thought FoD was a doc for some reason?
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:48 am

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btw what i'm trying to get at here is that
In post 889, Bookitty wrote:So, I don't know. It only frames me, not anyone else that I can see. I would assume that was the point of leaving you alive. Maybe they thought they could frame you for being alive, but with three votes needed to lynch, they should have known that wasn't going to work. So I guess it's me they wanted to set up.
"framing" isn't an adequate explanation here. keeping gameplay alive to push you and killing skull is more sensible than killing gameplay in an attempt to frame you. especially since no one has actually pushed that angle

so why is skull still alive and why is gameplay dead?
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:50 am

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you don't actually have to answer that btw, you just need to understand why no lynching here is the correct play
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:52 am

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First we come to the question (oft repeated, and I'm not sure how someone who supposedly read the game would have missed it):

Why is Skull still alive?

I had strongly hinted at the presence of a doc throughout the game. I didn't know if there was one, but I was hopeful and I knew I was one-shot bulletproof. I wanted Skull protected. I believe that the scum had a one or multi-shot rolecop power and knew I was bulletproof. I don't understand my own survival any other way. I was trying to draw the nightkill by suggesting that Skull would be doc-protected. I knew I would survive it once. There are no missed nightkills, so I assume they knew my role.

If it was a one-shot rolecop, as I assume, then they would be shooting FoD as the last real viable doc-protect. Scum couldn't check it. They couldn't know that there was no doc. FoD had filed me in town prior to that time, so it wasn't to frame me. I think scum was trying to hit the doc to take out Skull.

Skull really wanted to kill gameplay yesterday. Leaving Skull alive might have been enough to sway me into thinking, OMG, I will vote for Skull against all logic and reason! It also frames me. Saki has proven he's willing to vote either of us. Gameplay was a wild card in that scenario and couldn't be trusted to do what scum wanted.

Skull was left alive to create WIFOM; maybe I would vote that way. It also neatly frames me for today. Saki was probably left alive due to his expressed willingness to lynch me or Skull.

Why are you alive? I think it's because you're scum.

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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:56 am

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bookitty wrote:Gameplay was a wild card in that scenario and couldn't be trusted to do what scum wanted.
you could be partially right here, but who does killing the wildcard benefit?

he wasn't a universal town read, he wasn't unlynchable, if scum aren't in a comfortable position here why kill a wildcard over someone who is actually hard to lynch?
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:01 am

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bookitty wrote:Skull was left alive to create WIFOM; maybe I would vote that way. It also neatly frames me for today.
occam's razor would like to have a word with you

your theory seems to be that i as scum would leave alive someone who nobody really thinks is scum to kill off someone who is a potential mislynch and also more likely to be a liability to town than a liability to me

and all this because i thought rather than leaving gameplay alive and letting him wreak havoc on the game state, i thought it was a good idea to hope WIFOM would prevail.
bookitty wrote:How do you know just when Pim siteflaked?
because looking at dates is hard

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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:03 am

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Killing that particular wild card was an effective way of framing me and casting suspicion on Skull.

You're giving all sorts of information here, you know; just not anything that could actually benefit town. Why won't you simply answer the questions regarding who you think is scum?

If you thought you might be the victim of the nightkill, wouldn't that make all kinds of sense?

What date precisely did Pim siteflake on? His last post was in this game. How do you know he wasn't here through the night action phase?
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:13 am

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bookitty wrote:Killing that particular wild card was an effective way of framing me and casting suspicion on Skull.
OK

i will explain this to you like you're 5 years old

framing doesn't make any sense because who the fuck would do something to frame you rather than letting the events run its course

by killing someone to frame someone else, you are not only hoping that people believe it was done to frame that someone else, you are also hoping that the potential benefit from people believing that is more likely to result in a win than leaving that person alive and letting them pursue that someone else.

further, you think this is the case despite me not making any effort to push it and, instead, pushing for a no lynch. so your theory includes the fact that, rather than kill skull then, if necessary, kill off gameplay for da wifomz, scum chose to what? attempt to frame you for no adequate reason?

if you're town, you really need to clue up
bookitty wrote:Why won't you simply answer the questions regarding who you think is scum?
today we no lynch
bookitty wrote:If you thought you might be the victim of the nightkill, wouldn't that make all kinds of sense?
no. even if i thought it was likely i would be killed tonight, there is no sensible reason to talk about it today before seeing the night kill tonight. if i am dead tomorrow, then you guys can figure it out on your own
bookitty wrote:How do you know he wasn't here through the night action phase?
again, what is the point of this question?
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:22 am

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You waited to suggest No Lynch until it was clear that I wasn't going after Skull and it didn't look like Skull was going after me. Further, Saki had said, Lynch me! I'll shoot muffin!

If you were town, you'd have an opinion on who was scum today. If you believed you were at risk of a nightkill, you wouldn't say this: "if I am dead tomorrow, then you guys can figure it out on your own." This doesn't come from a town mindset.

You were using Pim's flake as a reason you couldn't be scum. Ironically, that was a factor in my believing you were town yesterday. Skull pointed out it wasn't necessarily so already. That's the point of the question.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:26 am

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yeah, you're an idiot if you're actually town and i'm done talking to you

Vote: No Lynch


if town is stupid enough to choose lynching over no lynching today, i do not give two shits about this game

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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:35 am

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In post 923, zMuffinMan wrote:(also theoretically if saki survives to 3p the correct play is to lynch saki to test the vengeful claim and then have saki decide the kill)
no

kills resolve at the same time, don't they?

so this means everyone dies and noone wins, doesn't it
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:36 am

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presumably your vengeful activates at the end of day phase not the end of night phase?
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i didn't know that
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wait then nothing really changes even if we no lynch because you'll be at lylo tomorrow minus me.
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