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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:51 am
by light_ganski
I'm not sure what to go on rn. We've had two wagons on people who were solidly scummy (and a third on a nullscum) collapse after PR claims even though the chances are most if not all of us are PRs of some sort

And we have less than two days

:/

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:52 am
by Dunnstral
Ofrhz wagon doesn't excite me while the lsat 2 did

I don't even know why we're voting this one

I don't want to vote elsa either

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:59 am
by light_ganski
Elsa - friendly neighbour (can confirm tonight, if does not - lynch tmrw?)

Enigma - watcher (scum watcher isn't unheard of but he can watch elsa and confirm/deny if Elsa claims being roleblocked. Was only nullscum in the first place)

Chennisden - vig (again, comfortable based on whether there's a second kill tonight. At the same time tho a realistic scum fakeclaim?)

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:06 am
by light_ganski
In post 926, Dunnstral wrote:Ofrhz wagon doesn't excite me while the lsat 2 did

I don't even know why we're voting this one

I don't want to vote elsa either
We let Elsa confirm herself and if she can't we kill her tmrw

Atm I can see any reason to make me want to vote ofrjsj

I wasn't at all confident with the enigma wagon when it happened

Chennisden's vig claim could be fake but vig is also confirmable and scum vig seems wildly unlikely

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:13 am
by Dunnstral
It feels weird to me that nobody is pushing MariaR

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:16 am
by light_ganski
I townleaned her earlier based on pretty much mindmelding with what she was saying at that point

Lemme ISO

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:20 am
by Dunnstral
She was towny in the first half of the game

I'm not necessarily pushing for her lynch here, it's just weird that nobody (mafia included) would be pushing her. it could just be that we've been pushing townies

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:21 am
by light_ganski
In post 318, MariaR wrote:
In post 178, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:
In post 162, MariaR wrote:How much mafia have you played Sabrina?
I'd say I've probably played about 50 games. Not including minis on epicmafia.
Interesting, your tone of voice and the way you play suggested otherwise to me. I'll take note of that.
In post 182, light_ganski wrote:
In post 168, MariaR wrote:
In post 164, Fuscosco wrote:Thought we'd be out of rvs by now. Game is remarkably slow for a large.
I know right? It's quite refreshing. Anyway
VOTE: Vedith
Free towncred if anyone can spot the same glaring scumtell I saw.
I can see at least one: he seems pretty eager to get out of RVS by pushing
any
wagon. Plus calling ausuka town based on her posts so far seems like a marginal scum information tell considering that I see no reason to TR her at this point
Hey look someone got it. Bingo! Vedith would not really care if we were in RVS or not as town. The way Ausuka is posting isn't really towny. It's pretty basic. Feels like Tmi~
In post 168, MariaR wrote:
In post 164, Fuscosco wrote:Thought we'd be out of rvs by now. Game is remarkably slow for a large.
I know right? It's quite refreshing. Anyway
VOTE: Vedith
Free towncred if anyone can spot the same glaring scumtell I saw.
This was where I was TRing early on

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:22 am
by light_ganski
Done with her ISO

I don't think she's scum

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:26 am
by light_ganski
She was townie early on and even tho her tone isn't great I'm inclined to believe my initial inclination there

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:06 am
by Wisdom
why is ofhrz town

his iso is awful

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:03 am
by light_ganski
His iso is meh

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:04 am
by Vedith
Light is meh

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:07 am
by light_ganski
You're meh

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:08 am
by light_ganski
Actually I digress you're townlean

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:14 am
by Wisdom
You dont sound like you have a better scumread so "meh" should be fine to lynch

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:24 am
by Elsa Jay
In post 929, Dunnstral wrote:It feels weird to me that nobody is pushing MariaR
She did recently "soft" a conditional lynchproof.

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:45 am
by light_ganski
In post 940, Wisdom wrote:You dont sound like you have a better scumread so "meh" should be fine to lynch
Meh

VOTE: ofrhz

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:49 am
by light_ganski
You still haven't said what you think is awful about their ISO

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:30 am
by ofrhz
You guys can’t be serious

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:37 am
by ofrhz
I’m going to be busy for the rest of today, so I’m going to go ahead and just claim

I’m a 2 shot rolestopper

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:38 am
by Wisdom
rolestopper can be scum

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:41 am
by ofrhz
I don’t understand how the chennis wagon dissipated

vigs are testable but confirming his vig claim won’t confirm his alignment

Ungated scum vigs are rare but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an x-shot scum vig

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:44 am
by Wisdom
nah. vigs are town.

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:45 am
by ofrhz
Spoiler:
In post 859, chennisden wrote:
In post 807, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: chennis

in case theres interest

ill hammer enigma if i have to but eh
opportunistic
In post 860, chennisden wrote:
In post 820, Enigma wrote:
In post 769, Elsa Jay wrote:If Scum have a roleblocker or something you basically ruined my chances of confirming myself. Big thanks to everyone here, particularly Enigma.

Sigh


Atleast we're killing scum now. So I guess I'll take it.
In post 778, Elsa Jay wrote:Why would I out anything elsa at this point to scum? I'm already as screwed by claiming so early.
So I've essentially offered you an opportunity to confirm yourself as town, outside of any roleblock or nightkill mechanic. I said I would self-hammer if you are able to confirm yourself outside of a roleblock event due to having multiple shots and my watcher value on you is then pointless.

By your reasoning should be a win-win for you - you aren't screwed by having to claim because there is still the opportunity to use your role (and scum can't kill/rb you) or if you are only indeed single shot then I would self-hammer and would flip scum according to your beliefs.

1. Why haven't you even considered this or responded to my offer?
2. Why did you feel the need to crumb your role at a time when you were in no danger of being lynched, and your night actions could essentially confirm that role?
Please watch Wisdom instead


He's opportunistically jumping
In post 861, chennisden wrote:VOTE: Wisdom
In post 873, chennisden wrote:So you want me to shoot? If so, who?

This trajectory isn’t town

“Wisdom is scum”

“Ok I’ll shoot whoever wisdom tells me to shoot”