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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:35 am
by teacher
In post 922, Flavor Leaf wrote:Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.
Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:35 am
by Flavor Leaf
If they role blocked, whatever, they give up their kill and it essentially does the same thing.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:36 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 925, teacher wrote:
In post 922, Flavor Leaf wrote:Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.
Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.
Lol

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:36 am
by teacher
No mafia roleblocker can block and kill in the same night.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:37 am
by Cinnamon
In post 1601, Micc wrote:
Spoiler: Role List
Player List:

thenavneet
Paladin159, DogDino -
Vanilla Townie

Cometbright
-
Vanilla Townie

ClearlyClarity
GreedyDemon -
Vanilla Townie

cpol
-
Town Jailkeeper

CapnCrunch
-
Mafia Goon

Datisi
hamedk1378 -
Vanilla Townie

RadiantCowbells
-
Mafia Roleblocker

Egix96
-
Town Doctor

NotMySpamAccount
-
Vanilla Townie


Setup: Column A & Row 2: Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Night Actions
Night 1:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks no one
cpol jailkeeps ClearlyClarity - ClearlyClarity is protected and roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells nightkills no one

Night 2:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks Datisi - Datisi is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps ClearlyClarity - ClearlyClarity is protected and roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells kills cpol - fails because cpol is protected

Night 3:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks Cometbright - Cometbright is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps ClearlyClarity - ClearlyClarity is protected and roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells kills cpol - fails because cpol is protected

Night 4:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks cpol - cpol is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps RadiantCowbells - fails because cpol is roleblocked
Egix96 protects cpol - cpol is protected
RadiantCowbells kills Datisi - Datisi flips Vanilla Townie

Night 5:

RadiantCowbells roleblocks cpol - cpol is roleblocked
cpol jailkeeps RadiantCowbells - fails because cpol is roleblocked
RadiantCowbells kills Cometbright - Cometbright flips Vanilla Townie

Mod Thread
Game Thread
Mafia Thread
Dead Thread

The thread will now be opened for post game discussion. Thanks to everyone for playing!

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:37 am
by Cinnamon
This is from Newbie 1929, RC won by doing exactly that, roleblocking and killing

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:37 am
by teacher
In post 927, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 925, teacher wrote:
In post 922, Flavor Leaf wrote:Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.
Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.
Lol
Elephant kindly weigh in here to show the proper strat. It’s not massclaim.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:37 am
by Flavor Leaf
Ah.

Still whatever.

I think scum is against mass claiming in this scenario anyways.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:38 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 930, Cinnamon wrote:This is from Newbie 1929, RC won by doing exactly that, roleblocking and killing
I’ve never been scum in my 20+ newbie games, so makes sense I was wrong.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:38 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 931, teacher wrote:
In post 927, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 925, teacher wrote:
In post 922, Flavor Leaf wrote:Here should be the plan.

Everyone should claim all results UNLESS they are a doctor.

Any doctor out there should claim VT in that case.
Rolefishing.

We are 6:1. Massclaim should wait til tomorrow.
Lol
Elephant kindly weigh in here to show the proper strat. It’s not massclaim.
Lol

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:40 am
by Cinnamon
Again, tracker or neapolitan with VT should claim otherwise it would be more wise to wait.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:40 am
by Flavor Leaf
Everyone always says stuff like that, but that’s a flaw in mechanical based players. That just risks not getting any results because of potential PR’s dying in the night which is how scum skate by and coast.

I always think town shouldn’t be greedy and just give their results in these positions, because you get to see how scum react afterwards, and townies become super obvious in newbie setups.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:43 am
by Flavor Leaf
I think any claims should come out, and I’ll argue this post game if you want, because there’s literally zero reasons that would ever convince me otherwise.

Been through this argument many times.

I’m also not a mechanical player like most players.

Everyone always thinks that I want this big fancy pull off the solo victory from way behind victory for some reason, but I’d rather just have great team cohesion, and work together.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:43 am
by teacher
In post 935, Cinnamon wrote:Again, tracker or neapolitan with VT should claim otherwise it would be more wise to wait.
No even then it’s better to wait for two clears and auto. There is no need for claims today unless we are lynching a clear.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:43 am
by Cinnamon
A tracker with a VT is an autowin already.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:44 am
by Flavor Leaf
Also, scum tend to pick up PR crumbs more than town, and at this point, i feel getting everyone on the same page minimizes scum’s informed minority advantage, but people like to argue against that for some reason because they’d rather go mechanical analysis than actually just analyze, which in conjunction to mechanical, it’s just plain stronger play.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:44 am
by Cinnamon
A neapolitan with a VT is likely an autowin and at that point I'd agree with Flavor that its the correct decision because there is some value (even though I think it's less than just waiting) in claiming earlier and its made up for by the fact that waiting is a risk.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:44 am
by Flavor Leaf
Teacher is clearly scum here trying to avoid having people claim anything.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:45 am
by Flavor Leaf
As scum, the way I am playing guarantees I lose.

I’m actually objectively town here, but I digress.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:46 am
by teacher
In post 936, Flavor Leaf wrote:Everyone always says stuff like that, but that’s a flaw in mechanical based players. That just risks not getting any results because of potential PR’s dying in the night which is how scum skate by and coast.

I always think town shouldn’t be greedy and just give their results in these positions, because you get to see how scum react afterwards, and townies become super obvious in newbie setups.
You’ve heard of crumbs right?

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:46 am
by Flavor Leaf
The plays I’m trying to make happen, guarantees I do not win the game as scum.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:46 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 944, teacher wrote:
In post 936, Flavor Leaf wrote:Everyone always says stuff like that, but that’s a flaw in mechanical based players. That just risks not getting any results because of potential PR’s dying in the night which is how scum skate by and coast.

I always think town shouldn’t be greedy and just give their results in these positions, because you get to see how scum react afterwards, and townies become super obvious in newbie setups.
You’ve heard of crumbs right?
Lol.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:46 am
by Flavor Leaf
I’m the master of crumbs. Go check Overkill 2. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:47 am
by Cinnamon
I think what you're suggesting here Flavor will be bad in a number of setups that can only guarantee two confirmed townies who will die in the night like in A2, A3 and C1 but I suppose we can talk about this more post game.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:48 am
by teacher
In post 942, Flavor Leaf wrote:Teacher is clearly scum here trying to avoid having people claim anything.
We have a stray disagreement. Why I want Elephant to weigh in, since I know I’m playing the statistically better play and he can validate it.

Pedit: if you master crumbs, then there is little risk of losing pr results.

Off til tonight.